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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#49201
On October 30 2015 01:58 farvacola wrote:
LSAT scores are still, in the general sense, the most important factor in terms of law school admission. That said, many of the "top tier" schools rely on official (legacy) and unofficial (my dad knows a guy) "networking" factors as highly important during the admission process. This is why you'll run into a fair number of folks at Harvard or Yale Law who seem to have gotten there based on nothing but familial inertia.

The LSAT is so highly weighted because GPAs are totally unreliable inter school and even inter department now.
Freeeeeeedom
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-29 17:37:07
October 29 2015 17:32 GMT
#49202
The longer I think about it the more certain I am that at least some of the stupid pointless moderator questions were specifically targeted to let the candidates play to their base (possibly even at the candidates' request). It heavily diluted the actual gotcha questions to the point where it is irrelevant whether the candidates were actually telling the truth at any time during the debate.

Seriously, when moderators are quibbling about your income taxes and property defaulting (or whatever the hell Rubio was asked about), it makes it a lot harder for people to notice that Rubio's response to the question about the rich getting a larger percent income increase under his tax plan was utterly nonsensical (I believe he said that a 15% increase in the middle class is a higher percentage increase than a 27% increase in the upper class).
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 29 2015 17:55 GMT
#49203
On October 30 2015 02:29 ZasZ. wrote:
I am not a Republican and I do not like any of the candidates who were on that stage last night but even I thought the moderation was cringe-worthy. For my part (although I won't be voting in the Republican primaries) I would rather they actually discuss the issues in these debates rather than try to pit the candidates against one another. Moderators can bring up all of the Republicans' crazy positions once we get to the election debates next fall, but I kind of hoped last night would have been more about the U.S. economy and less about each candidates personal and professional failures, however relevant they might be.

And speaking as a Democrat, the fact that the media seems hellbent on trying to torpedo every single potential Republican nominee will hurt us in the long run. If you make the American public hate and distrust the media more than they already do, and manage to tie the media to the Democrats, which is not that difficult to do, you end up digging a hole for the Democrats, not the Republicans.

The US News media is slowly becoming a reality show that features all of us. I watch the BBC and I'm just bummed. The US's reliance profit driven News networks a big problem that no one really talks. Mostly because we hear people talk about profit driven news network.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2015 18:04 GMT
#49204
WASHINGTON -- Winter is coming, as they say on "Game of Thrones," and the Republican Party seems to have become vaguely aware that if it doesn’t get serious fast, it will be lost: That is, Hillary Clinton will be the next president.

That is the main takeaway from Wednesday's events on Capitol Hill, where a budget deal passed the House, and on a debate stage at the University of Colorado in Boulder, where the top 10 Republican candidates squared off in a chaotic but inadvertently illuminating two-hour debate.

In Congress, GOP leaders have cut a deal with the Obama administration to put aside the largest budget and borrowing disputes until after the 2016 election -- a move designed to change the party’s image as a cohort of infantile obstructionists whose only idea of governance is a shutdown.

And at the debate hosted by CNBC, the candidates managed to engage in something approximating a real exchange of what to do about runaway spending on giant programs.

Overall, there should be some cautious hope in the U.S. and around the world that America can still lead by deploying a functioning two-party system that can get things done.

While Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky -- the main libertarian in the race -- vowed to use Senate rules to slow the budget deal, the debate was notable for the number of times that even he (and the other nine on the stage) passed up chances to take a whack at what the party's leaders on Capitol Hill had done.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, the outsider's insider, may join in Paul's filibuster effort, and will continue to concentrate his fire on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) But Cruz's broader pitch is that, while he is a born renegade, he knows how to handle the levers of D.C. power.

Indeed, rebellious tea party types in the Senate will rage against the machine, but will probably lose.

And even though names were called and the media was duly dissed, the candidates got across their real and substantive differences on programs like Social Security and Medicare -- a level of earnestness that acknowledged the fact that if they want to govern they have to, well, govern.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21702 Posts
October 29 2015 18:13 GMT
#49205
But Cruz's broader pitch is that, while he is a born renegade, he knows how to handle the levers of D.C. power.

HAHAHA
yeah he sure showed that with the last shutdown that accomplished absolutely nothing and only resulted in damage for no gains.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 29 2015 18:13 GMT
#49206
What I get is that the Repubican party isn't completely dysfunctional

Thing is, not completely dysfunctional =/= functional
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21702 Posts
October 29 2015 18:20 GMT
#49207
On October 30 2015 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
What I get is that the Repubican party isn't completely dysfunctional

Thing is, not completely dysfunctional =/= functional

Leadership knows a shutdown now is the end of any hope at the 2016 elections.
Hence they did this move to avert a shutdown.
Expect lack of business as usual to be the motto going forward.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44370 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-29 18:26:56
October 29 2015 18:26 GMT
#49208
http://theslot.jezebel.com/wow-makes-you-think-1739441255

Confirmed that this is a real tweet on his real Twitter... sigh. wtf.

His Twitter: https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 29 2015 18:28 GMT
#49209
On October 30 2015 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/wow-makes-you-think-1739441255

Confirmed that this is a real tweet on his real Twitter... sigh. wtf.

His Twitter: https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

He is a professional. So he isn't qualified to do his job?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44370 Posts
October 29 2015 18:32 GMT
#49210
On October 30 2015 03:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/wow-makes-you-think-1739441255

Confirmed that this is a real tweet on his real Twitter... sigh. wtf.

His Twitter: https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

He is a professional. So he isn't qualified to do his job?


I think that's the implication.

Or we could take the route of "He's an actual person. Only mythical people can succeed."

Expertise and existence: the two biggest tells that a person will fail.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2015 18:38 GMT
#49211
A US toddler has been shot in the back by Mexican army personnel after her family’s car apparently drove between a military patrol and a vehicle carrying suspects, say officials in the border state of Tamaulipas.

Guadalupe Salinas, the head of the federal prosecutors’ office in the state, said on Wednesday that another girl in the car was grazed by a bullet and a woman suffered slight wounds from bullet or glass fragments.

Salinas said Wednesday the injuries of the 20-month-old girl aren’t life-threatening. She is being treated in San Antonio, Texas.

The woman is the mother of one of the girls. The US citizens were apparently visiting relatives in Tamaulipas last week.

The US embassy in Mexico City said it was aware of reports that a US citizen had been wounded, but could not give any other information, including the girl’s name or hometown, because of privacy considerations.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 29 2015 18:41 GMT
#49212
He's a real seventh day adventist, people. Even Mitt was a businessman first and a Mormon second.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 29 2015 18:45 GMT
#49213
I just wanted to claim I could do a better job than those moderators (admittedly a low standard) because I like claiming superiority to people.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23248 Posts
October 29 2015 18:52 GMT
#49214
On October 30 2015 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/wow-makes-you-think-1739441255

Confirmed that this is a real tweet on his real Twitter... sigh. wtf.

His Twitter: https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author


Nope! Nope! Nope!.

Kasich was right with the "these guys are telling you crazy bs lies" rant (paraphrasing).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
October 29 2015 19:04 GMT
#49215
That Carson twitter feed led me to this gem.

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42775 Posts
October 29 2015 19:18 GMT
#49216
On October 30 2015 03:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/wow-makes-you-think-1739441255

Confirmed that this is a real tweet on his real Twitter... sigh. wtf.

His Twitter: https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author


Nope! Nope! Nope!.

Kasich was right with the "these guys are telling you crazy bs lies" rant (paraphrasing).

It's literally

"I have observed the myth runs contrary to reality. In the myth amateurs succeed in an impossible engineering task whereas in reality difficult engineering tasks often result in failure, even when professionals do them".

and the world waits for Carson to work out why people don't treat myths as fact

"It is therefore my opinion that reality must be wrong. Amateur engineers must be better at engineering than professionals".

and the world dies inside.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
October 29 2015 19:21 GMT
#49217
Is that real? Took me half the video to realise she was singing the star spangled banner.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 29 2015 19:22 GMT
#49218
I would love if Ben Carson and Neil DeGrasse Tyson had a cage fight (for charity of course). I'd pay to see that.
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4773 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-29 19:58:42
October 29 2015 19:55 GMT
#49219
Tyson is his own brand of idiot, so I suppose I get your perspective on that (not mine). At least I think.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-29 20:15:40
October 29 2015 20:11 GMT
#49220
fun fact if you tried to build an ark to biblical specifications it would sink, you can't make a 350 foot vessel watertight without some sort of nails. so basically what Carson is saying is that you should just wing it and hope that god magically makes everything work. (or you should do what god tells you and since I'm pretty sure Carson hasn't specifically spoken to god it doesn't apply to him)
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