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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On October 20 2015 04:03 Leporello wrote: Anyone who knows about Codename Curveball and thinks the WMDs were a mistake and not a brazen, disgusting lie has the thickest blinders on. The "WMD" lies are probably the biggest disgrace in our nation's history, and I'm just thankful the world didn't completely turn its back on us as a result. But anyways, lots of sources are saying Biden is going to announce his candidacy for Pres in the next 24-48 hours. Personally, I think a Biden ticket siphons most of its votes from the Hillary camp. Sander's supporters are more cemented in their support, I feel. So, Biden running could be the thing that really sets up a victory for Sanders. I will immediately jump ship from both Clinton and Sanders if Biden runs. I might even make my first actual political donation! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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KwarK
United States43927 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On October 20 2015 04:07 farvacola wrote: I think slavery and/or Vietnam were slightly bigger disgraces all things considered, but yeah, the WMD fiasco definitely ranks up there. Fair enough. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 20 2015 04:03 Leporello wrote: Anyone who knows about Codename Curveball and thinks the WMDs were a mistake and not a brazen, disgusting lie has the thickest blinders on. The "WMD" lies are probably the biggest disgrace in our nation's history, and I'm just thankful the world didn't completely turn its back on us as a result. But anyways, lots of sources are saying Biden is going to announce his candidacy for Pres in the next 24-48 hours. Personally, I think a Biden ticket siphons most of its votes from the Hillary camp. Sander's supporters are more cemented in their support, I feel. So, Biden running could be the thing that really sets up a victory for Sanders. I think I read something that Biden would take supporters roughly 50/50 from Bernie/Hillary, although I'm not sure on how accurate that source was or where it got that information from. (edit - can't find it at the moment) While I will still support Bernie, I would prefer Biden over Hillary. Crazy Uncle Joe seems well liked in a lot of places, and he's done quite a bit of good as VP. If/when he announces his candidacy, I'll be a bit surprised though, even if I've been told it's coming. He's gone through so much personal shit, I didn't actually expect him to commit to him. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23893 Posts
But anyways, lots of sources are saying Biden is going to announce his candidacy for Pres in the next 24-48 hours. Personally, I think a Biden ticket siphons most of its votes from the Hillary camp. Sander's supporters are more cemented in their support, I feel. So, Biden running could be the thing that really sets up a victory for Sanders. Every poll indicates the majority of Biden's support comes from what would otherwise be Clinton supporters. It's somewhere between 2:1 and 4:1 nationally as far as pulling from Clinton vs Sanders. The big thing Biden entering would do is jump up those numbers of Democrats watching the debate and possibly turn a 50-30-10-10 race into a 30-30-30-10 race. Personally I don't see how Joe gets the next 10-15 points (at least beyond an announcement bump) but I see people online (never in person) claim he's got untapped support out there so if they are right that's where it heads. Anyone supporting Bernie beyond something like "He's the candidate I hate least" isn't going anywhere. so I don't see Bernie slipping more than a few points no matter how well Biden does, whereas I could see Biden eating up ~1/2 of Clinton's supporters. I have to say Biden getting in despite how it looks makes me think there's going to be something reasonably scandalous for Clinton coming out timed with Biden's announcement. Electorally speaking the big thing about Biden if he got in is he could split up the black democrat vote enough in SC for Bernie's coalition to be enough to win putting a giant hole in Hillary's "firewall". | ||
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ragz_gt
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Shoulda used a private server /s | ||
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Falling
Canada11496 Posts
Mind you, the strange thing with about the unfiltered part, is up in Canada you are seeing candidates dropping left, right, and centre due to one or two misteps on social media, etc. I do not envy the life of a politician. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22281 Posts
On October 20 2015 07:43 Falling wrote: I liked Biden in the 08 campaign, and was happy he got picked for VP. I would personally would see Biden over Hillary or Bernie. He's gaffe prone, but he's also a keep it real guy... which works quite well if you are up against a Trump in the end. Just two guys, keep'n it real. I'm being a little facetious, but as the zeitgeist of this year's election is for the unfiltered, you have that in Biden, but I think in a classier way. Mind you, the strange thing with about the unfiltered part, is up in Canada you are seeing candidates dropping left, right, and centre due to one or two misteps on social media, etc. I do not envy the life of a politician. If your in a position where missteps in social media are bad for your career, maybe you should not be on social media. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On October 20 2015 07:45 Gorsameth wrote: If your in a position where missteps in social media are bad for your career, maybe you should not be on social media. Yeahhh except in this day and age you cant not have a social media presence either in this specific position. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23893 Posts
This is a legit American commercial (That's how it aired, that's not a spoof or anything) + Show Spoiler + HeadOn is logging some heady growth rates -- 234% from 2005 to 2006. And for the first half of 2007, the brand looks to be on track to double sales. HeadOn ranks No. 9 in the external-analgesics-rubs category and logged $6.5 million in sales last year, up from just $1.9 million in 2005, according to Information Resources Inc. That's not including Wal-Mart, who is "one of our biggest customers" Mr. Charron said. Source As of September 2000, there were two versions of HeadOn available in makets/stores: "ExtraStrength and Migraine". Chemical analysis of the Migraine formulation has shown that the product consists almost entirely of wax. The three "active ingredients" are iris versicolor 12× (a toxic flower), white bryony 12× (a type of toxic vine), and potassium dichromate 6× (a known carcinogen). The "×" notation indicates that the three chemicals have been diluted to 1 part per trillion, 1 part per trillion, and 1 part per million respectively.[10] This amount of dilution is so great that the product has been described as a placebo;[11] with skeptic James Randi calling it a "major medical swindle".[10] The formula for the Extra Strength version of the product is the same as the Migraine except that it excludes the iris versicolor. Wiki | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
On October 20 2015 07:43 Falling wrote: Just two guys, keep'n it real. . Sounds like a great sit com. I admit it would be pretty fun to see those two debate. Probably more entertaining than Trump vs. Hillary. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 20 2015 10:29 IgnE wrote: The TPP should be burnt in the public square. you'll be enjoying the bric version of the tpp then | ||
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