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On August 20 2015 14:37 Sermokala wrote: If you have to end your post with "its not racist to say this" then you are admiring that the group you are in thinks its racist and you are doubling down with that knowledge.
I don't know where you got such an absurd idea like that from. Admiring that the group I'm in thinks its racist? Why the hell would I ever admire such an idea. It is the socialists who think what I said was racist, because the very word 'racist' is an intentionally vague descriptor meant to browbeat their opposition.
Again you ended your post with it. you put it in such a position of value that you think that its important that you know that the group knows what you're saying is racist. We didn't ask you to come you decided that your racist ideas (your description not mine) needed to be heard. Socialists being socialists has nothing to do with their opinion of race. Diversity is a thing that capitalist-democratic people want. Its a good thing for a culture and an economy. Immigrants give way more into the welfare state then they draw out, that's not an opinion that's just fact.
I don't even understand how you think "racist" is vague. Its pretty clearly a word that means that you dislike someone because of their race. Even people who think GH use's it too much are all really clear on what it means.
Could the 2016 race for the Oval Office get any crazier?
On the GOP side, there’s a long list of experience politicians with long lists of accomplishments to their names seeking the presidency – senior governors, senators and statesmen – and they’re all trailing Donald Trump, a shoot-from-the-hip billionaire with a knack for saying what many people across the country are feeling.
And on the Democrat side, there’s surging support for a self-avowed socialist who is challenging Hillary Clinton, who thought she was the anointed candidate in 2008, only to be knocked off her pedestal by upstart Barack Obama. She considers herself anointed now, but finds her support fading quickly.
So how about the gauntlet being thrown down by … Michelle Obama?
There already are some commenting on the idea.
WND commentator Star Parker told WND she was at a book signing in Washington this week and was asked about the possibility.
She admitted she’s watching that possible development closely.
“I’ve even seen bumper stickers that say Michelle 2016,” Parker told WND. “Until the primaries are absolutely closed, my eye is on Michelle.”
She suggested there’s a behind-the-scenes move developing that is turning her into a cause celebre.
“The thought of Michelle Obama elected president makes me want to really break down and cry,” said Maureen Vaccaro of Santa Clarita, California, who attended Parker’s event.
Washington columnist Edward Klein has reported that Michelle Obama’s plans after her husband’s presidency are big – and they don’t necessarily include her husband.
“For a while, the first lady played with the idea of running for the Illinois Senate seat now occupied by Republican Mark Kirk, who was hobbled by a 2012 stroke and recently fell during a vote on the Senate floor. But she has since all but dismissed this idea,” he reported.
(It was from an Illinois Senate seat that Barack Obama launched his successful bid for the Oval Office.)
But while describing how Michelle Obama “envisions” a future alongside “best friend and confidant Valerie Jarrett,” he said she also “doesn’t want to step down from that luxurious Air Force One lifestyle.”
A May Rasmussen poll found, if Michelle decided to run for president, she’d pose the most significant threat to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton than any other Democratic Party contender.
What do YOU think? Sound off on the rumor Michelle Obama may run for president
On April 30, Michelle joked about running for the White House when she was a guest on “The Late Show with David Letterman” (6:00 mark).
“I’m retiring in a few weeks,” Letterman said.
“No kidding,” Michelle responded.
“And I know that your time at the White House, in a couple years, same sort of thing,” Lettterman said. “You won’t be retiring, though. But do you ever glimpse that far down the road?”
Michelle replied, “What, like when I’m going to be running for president or anything?”
“Something to consider,” Letterman said.
I don't think there's any legitimate reason to think she's going to run for President right now. She's First Lady, but she doesn't have the political experience that Hillary does, and surely everyone (including Michelle) knows that. If she did run, she might take a good amount of female votes from Hillary, which may benefit Bernie Sanders during the primary.
Honestly, I think all her social work has been really good and fits a nice niche for her, but I can't see her being Commander-In-Chief.
The wife of the guy who won the presidency with like .5 years of US senate experience? I don't think she would see that as a real obstacle.
? Bill Clinton was also governor for like a dozen years (Arkansas) and even the Attorney General. And Hillary's been a New York Senator for 8 years and the Secretary of State... both were/ are clearly much more politically qualified to run for president than Michelle Obama is.
EDIT: I may have misread your post; you might be talking about Barack. Even still, Barack was an Illinois State Senator for like 8 years and then joined the U.S. Senate for another 4, so... Barack was still more qualified to run for president than Michelle would be.
Doesn't really matter to me though if she runs. It'd be interesting to see how she could shake things up.
On August 20 2015 14:37 Sermokala wrote: If you have to end your post with "its not racist to say this" then you are admiring that the group you are in thinks its racist and you are doubling down with that knowledge.
I don't know where you got such an absurd idea like that from. Admiring that the group I'm in thinks its racist? Why the hell would I ever admire such an idea. It is the socialists who think what I said was racist, because the very word 'racist' is an intentionally vague descriptor meant to browbeat their opposition.
Again you ended your post with it. you put it in such a position of value that you think that its important that you know that the group knows what you're saying is racist. We didn't ask you to come you decided that your racist ideas (your description not mine) needed to be heard. Socialists being socialists has nothing to do with their opinion of race. Diversity is a thing that capitalist-democratic people want. Its a good thing for a culture and an economy. Immigrants give way more into the welfare state then they draw out, that's not an opinion that's just fact.
I don't even understand how you think "racist" is vague. Its pretty clearly a word that means that you dislike someone because of their race. Even people who think GH use's it too much are all really clear on what it means.
That's what prejudiced means. Racism isn't so simple.
On August 20 2015 14:20 Kickstart wrote: Now the redpill talk coming in lol. I was going to go through this guys regurgitated extreme right wing meme spouting post but then I realized it wouldn't matter :D. Can you like, tone it down and be reasonable.
Why do you insist on defending political correctness? I am being as reasonable as I possibly can in the face of this insanity.
I will be the last to defend political correctness. I've been warned on the site for calling someone out on their shit in a rather blunt manner, and I've even recently expressed that I am annoyed at some of the left-leaning people in this thread and in general when I see some of the shit they think and say. Speaking freely and bluntly is a powerful tool and I have no qualms with the fact that you do so. Allowing people to do this both allows them to have their opinion heard but it also allows others to quickly determine whether or not that person is actually worth listening to. I hate to have to say that from your short time here almost everyone has determined that you are likely not worth listening to.
I have no doubt in the sincerity of what you said. Maybe this is some elaborate 'troll' to just spout the most extreme right wing trends you can find in today's discourse but when someone professes to believe something then I think one is obliged to take them seriously, so I take you seriously. You strike me as being burdened with this crushing fear and paranoia that infects every part of their thinking, which is not unusual but I find interesting from a Canadian (I assume you are from your profile). It is one thing to be worried about the state of affairs in the world today, even justifiable and understandable. I myself am very much a pessimist in general and, I hate to admit, view most new information and events with a very cynical lens. However, I don't even come close to the paranoia displayed by you and others when they start going on about socialists being evil, Zionist conspiracies, and race wars, and all the things that come with that vein of thinking. This is the type of rhetoric I'm only used to seeing among the very extreme fringes.
If you think your views are reasonable I am not sure where to start but at least it seems you are open to having a dialogue, I'm just not sure how to move the discussion forward given your stated beliefs. For starters, are your statements that Socialists are evil, there is a Zionist conspiracy, and that there is an ongoing race war sincere or hyperbole? If sincere, could you expand on them more?
On August 20 2015 14:37 Sermokala wrote: If you have to end your post with "its not racist to say this" then you are admiring that the group you are in thinks its racist and you are doubling down with that knowledge.
I don't know where you got such an absurd idea like that from. Admiring that the group I'm in thinks its racist? Why the hell would I ever admire such an idea. It is the socialists who think what I said was racist, because the very word 'racist' is an intentionally vague descriptor meant to browbeat their opposition.
Again you ended your post with it. you put it in such a position of value that you think that its important that you know that the group knows what you're saying is racist.
Wrong, I was acting under the necessary assumption that socialists would choose to react to what I said as being racist when such a thing couldn't be further from the truth.
[/QUOTE] We didn't ask you to come you decided that your racist ideas (your description not mine) needed to be heard. [/QUOTE]
Why is this so hard for you to understand? I do not criticize illegal immigrants because of their skin color. I am doing so because of their behaviour, as an example those responsible for the IKEA stabbing I just mentioned.
[/QUOTE] Socialists being socialists has nothing to do with their opinion of race.[/QUOTE]
Has everything to do with it since some may go as far as to say they don't believe in race.
[/QUOTE] Diversity is a thing that capitalist-democratic people want. Its a good thing for a culture and an economy. Immigrants give way more into the welfare state then they draw out, that's not an opinion that's just fact. [/QUOTE]
that may apply to legal immigrants, but I'm talking about the illegals here, who by the way are not liked by the legals because they had to jump through hoops for their immigration status only to see illegals being pampered who obviously skipped this entire process. That is also fact. This is why Trump is going to win the Hispanic vote.
[/QUOTE] I don't even understand how you think "racist" is vague. Its pretty clearly a word that means that you dislike someone because of their race. Even people who think GH use's it too much are all really clear on what it means. [/QUOTE]
Leon Trotsky intended for the word to be vague. It tells you nothing about a person's argument but instead relies on people's minds to react with disdain the moment they hear this accusation. (A mental trigger if you will.) It functions to silence debate. The "umbrella" usage of this word not just to describe arguments but also art, music, culture etc. demonstrates why it lacks a concise definition.
On August 20 2015 14:37 Sermokala wrote: If you have to end your post with "its not racist to say this" then you are admiring that the group you are in thinks its racist and you are doubling down with that knowledge.
I don't know where you got such an absurd idea like that from. Admiring that the group I'm in thinks its racist? Why the hell would I ever admire such an idea. It is the socialists who think what I said was racist, because the very word 'racist' is an intentionally vague descriptor meant to browbeat their opposition.
Again you ended your post with it. you put it in such a position of value that you think that its important that you know that the group knows what you're saying is racist. We didn't ask you to come you decided that your racist ideas (your description not mine) needed to be heard. Socialists being socialists has nothing to do with their opinion of race. Diversity is a thing that capitalist-democratic people want. Its a good thing for a culture and an economy. Immigrants give way more into the welfare state then they draw out, that's not an opinion that's just fact.
I don't even understand how you think "racist" is vague. Its pretty clearly a word that means that you dislike someone because of their race. Even people who think GH use's it too much are all really clear on what it means.
That's what prejudiced means. Racism isn't so simple.
One could try to be more nuanced or have a different definition for racism, but in the broadest sense, disliking someone (or treating them unfairly) because of their race is exactly the definition of racism. (Prejudice is an umbrella term that includes racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.) I've seen people use secondary, more specific definitions that require some sort of inherent power struggle between a controlling majority and an oppressed minority, but one doesn't require such a thing to still technically be correct by the normal definition (just look at any dictionary, and it'll unambiguously include at least the standard, broad definition of racism). Here are some examples:
poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race; the belief that some races of people are better than others
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Racism consists of ideologies and practices that seek to justify, or cause, the unequal distribution of privileges, rights or goods among different racial groups.
Could the 2016 race for the Oval Office get any crazier?
On the GOP side, there’s a long list of experience politicians with long lists of accomplishments to their names seeking the presidency – senior governors, senators and statesmen – and they’re all trailing Donald Trump, a shoot-from-the-hip billionaire with a knack for saying what many people across the country are feeling.
And on the Democrat side, there’s surging support for a self-avowed socialist who is challenging Hillary Clinton, who thought she was the anointed candidate in 2008, only to be knocked off her pedestal by upstart Barack Obama. She considers herself anointed now, but finds her support fading quickly.
So how about the gauntlet being thrown down by … Michelle Obama?
There already are some commenting on the idea.
WND commentator Star Parker told WND she was at a book signing in Washington this week and was asked about the possibility.
She admitted she’s watching that possible development closely.
“I’ve even seen bumper stickers that say Michelle 2016,” Parker told WND. “Until the primaries are absolutely closed, my eye is on Michelle.”
She suggested there’s a behind-the-scenes move developing that is turning her into a cause celebre.
“The thought of Michelle Obama elected president makes me want to really break down and cry,” said Maureen Vaccaro of Santa Clarita, California, who attended Parker’s event.
Washington columnist Edward Klein has reported that Michelle Obama’s plans after her husband’s presidency are big – and they don’t necessarily include her husband.
“For a while, the first lady played with the idea of running for the Illinois Senate seat now occupied by Republican Mark Kirk, who was hobbled by a 2012 stroke and recently fell during a vote on the Senate floor. But she has since all but dismissed this idea,” he reported.
(It was from an Illinois Senate seat that Barack Obama launched his successful bid for the Oval Office.)
But while describing how Michelle Obama “envisions” a future alongside “best friend and confidant Valerie Jarrett,” he said she also “doesn’t want to step down from that luxurious Air Force One lifestyle.”
A May Rasmussen poll found, if Michelle decided to run for president, she’d pose the most significant threat to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton than any other Democratic Party contender.
What do YOU think? Sound off on the rumor Michelle Obama may run for president
On April 30, Michelle joked about running for the White House when she was a guest on “The Late Show with David Letterman” (6:00 mark).
“I’m retiring in a few weeks,” Letterman said.
“No kidding,” Michelle responded.
“And I know that your time at the White House, in a couple years, same sort of thing,” Lettterman said. “You won’t be retiring, though. But do you ever glimpse that far down the road?”
Michelle replied, “What, like when I’m going to be running for president or anything?”
“Something to consider,” Letterman said.
I don't think there's any legitimate reason to think she's going to run for President right now. She's First Lady, but she doesn't have the political experience that Hillary does, and surely everyone (including Michelle) knows that. If she did run, she might take a good amount of female votes from Hillary, which may benefit Bernie Sanders during the primary.
Honestly, I think all her social work has been really good and fits a nice niche for her, but I can't see her being Commander-In-Chief.
The wife of the guy who won the presidency with like .5 years of US senate experience? I don't think she would see that as a real obstacle.
? Bill Clinton was also governor for like a dozen years (Arkansas) and even the Attorney General. And Hillary's been a New York Senator for 8 years and the Secretary of State... both were/ are clearly much more politically qualified to run for president than Michelle Obama is.
EDIT: I may have misread your post; you might be talking about Barack. Even still, Barack was an Illinois State Senator for like 8 years and then joined the U.S. Senate for another 4, so... Barack was still more qualified to run for president than Michelle would be.
Doesn't really matter to me though if she runs. It'd be interesting to see how she could shake things up.
Yes. Barack Obama was heavily out-experienced in his race. I doubt that would be influential to her. Instead, IMO, she would not run because she doesn't think its a very good environment for a 2nd Obama Presidency, which is a sane evaluation.
I was hoping for some entertainment too but it seems our friend has left us for the time being. Just as I was trying to get him to explain his 'evil socialists', 'white genocide'/'race war', and 'zionist propaganda' comments =[. Perhaps he will at some point.
I knew if we talked about diversity long enough the Internet would provide some who thinks white genocide is a topic for rational people. We have arrived.
Presidential Sensation Deez Nuts Is a 15-Year-Old Iowa Farm Boy
The candidate polling at 9 percent in North Carolina against Trump and Clinton isn’t a real person. But Brady Olson, who gamed the FEC filing system, certainly is. Deez Nuts, the Independent candidate from Iowa, is polling at 9 percent in North Carolina for President of the United States.
Sadly, Deez Nuts does not appear to exist. But Brady Olson does.
“When I heard about the Limberbutt McCubbins story, I realized I could,” Olson tells The Daily Beast.
Brady Olson is 15 years old. He filed to run for the President of the United States with the FEC on July 26 as Deez Nuts.
150818-collins-deeznuts-embed1 According to a Public Policy Polling survey released Wednesday, almost one in 10 Tar Heel State voters would vote for him in a race between Nuts, Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton.
(Limberbutt McCubbins, by the way, is a cat from Kentucky seeking the Democratic nomination for president.)
Dozens of real Deez Nutses or Deez Nutzes do live as citizens in the United States of America with legally changed names, from Phoenix, Arizona, to West Hartford, Connecticut, from sea to shining sea, but a potential president does not appear to be one of them.
According to a Federal Election Commission filing, the Deez Nuts running for president lives at 2248 450th Avenue in Wallingford, Iowa. The problem, however, is that there is no Deez Nuts who lives in Wallingford, Iowa—a tiny town of 197 people—according to the Emmet County recorder’s office.
“Seriously?” Emmet County recorder’s assistant Jill White asked when The Daily Beast mentioned there was a federally registered presidential candidate by the name of “Deez Nuts”—and that a reporter was requesting information on a resident by that name.
There’s only Brady Olson, the son of a farmer and a dental assistant, and a rising sophomore at the Graettinger Terril Ruthven Ayrshire Community School in rural Iowa.
Now he’s trying to figure out his path to becoming the first 15-year-old President of the United States under an assumed name.
“The next step is to get some party nominations, like the Minnesota Independence Party or the Modern Whig Party,” Olson says. “It would also be great to find a VP, preferably McCubbins because the Nuts/McCubbins ticket sounds amazing.”
So how did Brady Olson go from standard Iowa high school student to the No. 1 trending topic on Twitter—literally overnight?
“The polls are pretty long. By the time we drop Deez Nuts on them, they’re pretty deep into the poll.” “It started because somebody emailed us under the name Deez Nuts,” says Jim Williams, an issue polling specialist a Public Policy Polling. “He said, ‘I’m Deez Nuts. I’m running. Here’s my filing statement. Would you poll me?’”
Williams thought “this is something Public Policy Polling would do,” so he squared Nuts off against Trump and Clinton in Minnesota a few weeks ago. He polled at 7 percent.
“I thought, ‘Let’s put this out. This’ll be funny,’” he says, and it was met with “mild interest.”
But when his numbers rose after two more polls—8 percent in Iowa, then 9 percent in North Carolina—Nuts took off. On Wednesday, Deez Nuts was trending worldwide on Twitter.
150818-collins-deeznuts-embed2 “Today, we’ve clearly reached the tipping point,” says Williams.
There is no 9-1-1 listing corresponding to that 2248 450th Street, according to officials at the Emmet County Registry of Deeds. Next door—at 2250 450th Street in Wallingford—sits Olson Land & Livestock, which is owned by Brady’s dad, Mark Olson.
“Anybody can fill out a Form 2,” says FEC Deputy Press Officer Christian Hilland. “We do vetting, but it’s more about did they fill out the information correctly? Did they review the fields? It doesn’t speak to the authenticity of the individual who filed the claim.”
“Nuts” did, in fact, fill out a Form 2—a statement of candidacy—on July 26. The form had no information other than the Wallingford address and his Independent party affiliation.
Fellow Form 2 filers for the 2016 election cycle include Sydneys Vuluptuous Buttocks, Kenny Rodeo, Eden, and Ole’ Savior. Savior, a Republican, ran and lost in four other elections since 2006.
Savior and Nuts join President Emperor Caesar, Buddy the Cat, Buddy the Elf, Jack Sparrow, James “Titus the Great” Law, Princess Oawlawolwaol, and Donald Trump in the 2016 race for the presidency.
You can fill out your own Form 2 here and—good news—none of the fields are immediately checked against public records searches.
You, too, can be Deez Nuts from Wallingford, Iowa. The problems will only start to appear when your grassroots campaign for the presidency starts to receive the support of almost one-tenth of the residents of North Carolina.
“We check for things like, ‘What election cycle are you running in?’ If one or more of those fields are missing, we have campaign finance analysts who review those reports,” says Hilland. “We send a letter to the listed address that asks for clarification or an amendment.”
Also, if he or she raises $5,000, whoever lives at 2248 450th Avenue is going to have to come up with a real name. Nuts will then have to file a Form 1, which requires a name, phone number and address that check out.
150818-collins-deeznuts-embed3 And, again, the name doesn’t check out.
“The name isn’t familiar to me. Do you really think that’s a legitimate name?” Brenda Moore of the Emmet County treasurer’s office asked The Daily Beast.
The county of just over 10,000 had no idea an alleged Independent front-runner from their neighborhood was earning national headlines.
“I haven’t heard a word—not a word about it,” says Amy Sathoff of the Emmet County auditor’s office.
She chuckled when The Daily Beast asked her to search “Deez Nuts” in her records.
“It seems kind of odd,” Sathoff says, but confirmed that “no person with that last name owns property in Emmet County.”
Since he began polling near double digits, Olson even began offering concrete policy positions on his Facebook page.
“He’s now come out for a balanced budget. He’s come out in favor of the Iran Deal,” says Williams. “Deez Nuts is starting to get serious.”
Joking aside, Williams says Nuts’s high polling numbers shows that “clearly, there’s some kind of floor here for third-party entities that’s rising.”
“I think having Trump as part of the poll helps push that number up because it leaves room for the non-hardcore Republicans who are not going to get on board with Donald Trump,” says Williams.
Plus, there’s a logistical reason Nuts is polling so well.
“The polls are pretty long. By the time we drop Deez Nuts on them, they’re pretty deep into the poll,” Williams says, then pauses.
“The jokes write themselves.”
But now, Olson is emboldened by his rising poll numbers. Despite the hurdles—the president has to be at least 35 to take office, after all—he plans on winning the whole thing.
“The U.S. would have to pass an amendment to take out Article 2,” says Olson. “But Congress wouldn’t do that—after being so embarrassed after losing to Deez Nuts.”
Further proof that the polls now will not reflect the polls one year from now. Or that we are all doomed.
On August 20 2015 19:35 Plansix wrote: I knew if we talked about diversity long enough the Internet would provide some who thinks white genocide is a topic for rational people. We have arrived.
The 1804 Haiti massacre is a pretty interesting event that should elicit some discussion, as it excited an entire generation of social commentary, although it is mostly forgotten today.
It was one of the events in living memory which led Tocqueville to the following conclusion in Democracy:
Those who hope that the Europeans will ever be amalgamated with the Negroes appear to me to delude themselves. I am not led to any such conclusion by my reason or by the evidence of facts. Hitherto wherever the whites have been the most powerful, they have held the blacks in degradation or in slavery; wherever the Negroes have been strongest, they have destroyed the whites: this has been the only balance that has ever taken place between the two races.
The demographic decline of the white race in North America, although startling, is a danger which is overstated; the social leadership of the Anglo-Saxon patriciandom lived on in the United States nearly a century after their demographic eclipse, really only waning in the 1950s; that of the whites is likely to maintain a similar ascendancy in the span of our lifetimes.
It's funny but Bill Clinton's affair isn't really seen as a big deal to people. it actually helped his popularity if you look at the polls. as for Hilary considering how much she's in favor of women's rights I can't think of too many women voters (except maybe for religious ones who probably wouldn't vote for her anyway) who'd vote against her just because of that
What the Lewinsky affair revealed went far beyond the President's low impulse-control; it revealed (if it was not clear enough already) the degree to which this youthful sociopath of a President was an outstanding citizen of the ME-generation, completely unable to take responsibility for his own self-emancipation. I was very young at the time, and barely understood English, yet when I saw this man appear on the television everything of him smacked of sleaze. I was too young and naive to understand why this man apparently respected by millions was never able to answer a simple question without dodging it, or why every word of his was a drip of fallacy and blank rhetoric drooping from that visually energetic mouth. He was precisely the kind of man I hated in life; a man who pushed others around, yet lacked the least iota of personal substance. Clinton was the first person who taught me the ubiquity of empty verbiage and dodgy sloganeering in the modern world, and far beyond his adultery with Lewinsky, he played a small role in the violation of my personal innocence at the time.
In 1996 I hoped Bob Dole would win. Although I was completely uninterested in politics at the time, I wanted to see the Fake-in-Chief taken down a peg, such was my hatred of him. In 2000 I preferred Bush to Gore, and that was the last time I had any decided preference in American politics between the two parties.
Could the 2016 race for the Oval Office get any crazier?
On the GOP side, there’s a long list of experience politicians with long lists of accomplishments to their names seeking the presidency – senior governors, senators and statesmen – and they’re all trailing Donald Trump, a shoot-from-the-hip billionaire with a knack for saying what many people across the country are feeling.
And on the Democrat side, there’s surging support for a self-avowed socialist who is challenging Hillary Clinton, who thought she was the anointed candidate in 2008, only to be knocked off her pedestal by upstart Barack Obama. She considers herself anointed now, but finds her support fading quickly.
So how about the gauntlet being thrown down by … Michelle Obama?
There already are some commenting on the idea.
WND commentator Star Parker told WND she was at a book signing in Washington this week and was asked about the possibility.
She admitted she’s watching that possible development closely.
“I’ve even seen bumper stickers that say Michelle 2016,” Parker told WND. “Until the primaries are absolutely closed, my eye is on Michelle.”
She suggested there’s a behind-the-scenes move developing that is turning her into a cause celebre.
“The thought of Michelle Obama elected president makes me want to really break down and cry,” said Maureen Vaccaro of Santa Clarita, California, who attended Parker’s event.
Washington columnist Edward Klein has reported that Michelle Obama’s plans after her husband’s presidency are big – and they don’t necessarily include her husband.
“For a while, the first lady played with the idea of running for the Illinois Senate seat now occupied by Republican Mark Kirk, who was hobbled by a 2012 stroke and recently fell during a vote on the Senate floor. But she has since all but dismissed this idea,” he reported.
(It was from an Illinois Senate seat that Barack Obama launched his successful bid for the Oval Office.)
But while describing how Michelle Obama “envisions” a future alongside “best friend and confidant Valerie Jarrett,” he said she also “doesn’t want to step down from that luxurious Air Force One lifestyle.”
A May Rasmussen poll found, if Michelle decided to run for president, she’d pose the most significant threat to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton than any other Democratic Party contender.
What do YOU think? Sound off on the rumor Michelle Obama may run for president
On April 30, Michelle joked about running for the White House when she was a guest on “The Late Show with David Letterman” (6:00 mark).
“I’m retiring in a few weeks,” Letterman said.
“No kidding,” Michelle responded.
“And I know that your time at the White House, in a couple years, same sort of thing,” Lettterman said. “You won’t be retiring, though. But do you ever glimpse that far down the road?”
Michelle replied, “What, like when I’m going to be running for president or anything?”
“Something to consider,” Letterman said.
I don't think there's any legitimate reason to think she's going to run for President right now. She's First Lady, but she doesn't have the political experience that Hillary does, and surely everyone (including Michelle) knows that. If she did run, she might take a good amount of female votes from Hillary, which may benefit Bernie Sanders during the primary.
Honestly, I think all her social work has been really good and fits a nice niche for her, but I can't see her being Commander-In-Chief.
She could follow the Hillary route of First Lady -> Senator -> President, I expect she'd avoid a lot of the crap Hillary has gone through as well.
Three U.S. Forest Service firefighters died after their vehicle crashed as they battled a blaze and three or four others were injured, at least one critically, on Wednesday as raging wildfires advanced on towns in north-central Washington State, authorities said.
The vehicle was likely caught by flames after it crashed as the three fought a blaze near Twisp, the National Forest Service said, relaying information from Okanogan County Sheriff Frank Rogers.
"The firefighters were engaged in initial attack operations and were involved in a vehicle accident when it is believed that the fire overtook the vehicle," according to the statement from Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest.
It wasn't immediately clear if the four injured were also involved in the accident.
"It was a hell storm up here," Rogers told KXLY-TV of Spokane. "The fire was racing and the winds were blowing in every direction and then it would shift. ... It was tough on `em up here."
The Forest Service statement identified the four injured as two Department of Natural Resources employees, a DNR contractor, and one U.S. Forest Service worker.
One firefighter had been taken to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle in critical condition, a nursing supervisor there said.
Officials said no names or other information on the casualties was being released until relatives are notified.
Could the 2016 race for the Oval Office get any crazier?
On the GOP side, there’s a long list of experience politicians with long lists of accomplishments to their names seeking the presidency – senior governors, senators and statesmen – and they’re all trailing Donald Trump, a shoot-from-the-hip billionaire with a knack for saying what many people across the country are feeling.
And on the Democrat side, there’s surging support for a self-avowed socialist who is challenging Hillary Clinton, who thought she was the anointed candidate in 2008, only to be knocked off her pedestal by upstart Barack Obama. She considers herself anointed now, but finds her support fading quickly.
So how about the gauntlet being thrown down by … Michelle Obama?
There already are some commenting on the idea.
WND commentator Star Parker told WND she was at a book signing in Washington this week and was asked about the possibility.
She admitted she’s watching that possible development closely.
“I’ve even seen bumper stickers that say Michelle 2016,” Parker told WND. “Until the primaries are absolutely closed, my eye is on Michelle.”
She suggested there’s a behind-the-scenes move developing that is turning her into a cause celebre.
“The thought of Michelle Obama elected president makes me want to really break down and cry,” said Maureen Vaccaro of Santa Clarita, California, who attended Parker’s event.
Washington columnist Edward Klein has reported that Michelle Obama’s plans after her husband’s presidency are big – and they don’t necessarily include her husband.
“For a while, the first lady played with the idea of running for the Illinois Senate seat now occupied by Republican Mark Kirk, who was hobbled by a 2012 stroke and recently fell during a vote on the Senate floor. But she has since all but dismissed this idea,” he reported.
(It was from an Illinois Senate seat that Barack Obama launched his successful bid for the Oval Office.)
But while describing how Michelle Obama “envisions” a future alongside “best friend and confidant Valerie Jarrett,” he said she also “doesn’t want to step down from that luxurious Air Force One lifestyle.”
A May Rasmussen poll found, if Michelle decided to run for president, she’d pose the most significant threat to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton than any other Democratic Party contender.
What do YOU think? Sound off on the rumor Michelle Obama may run for president
On April 30, Michelle joked about running for the White House when she was a guest on “The Late Show with David Letterman” (6:00 mark).
“I’m retiring in a few weeks,” Letterman said.
“No kidding,” Michelle responded.
“And I know that your time at the White House, in a couple years, same sort of thing,” Lettterman said. “You won’t be retiring, though. But do you ever glimpse that far down the road?”
Michelle replied, “What, like when I’m going to be running for president or anything?”
“Something to consider,” Letterman said.
I don't think there's any legitimate reason to think she's going to run for President right now. She's First Lady, but she doesn't have the political experience that Hillary does, and surely everyone (including Michelle) knows that. If she did run, she might take a good amount of female votes from Hillary, which may benefit Bernie Sanders during the primary.
Honestly, I think all her social work has been really good and fits a nice niche for her, but I can't see her being Commander-In-Chief.
She could follow the Hillary route of First Lady -> Senator -> President, I expect she'd avoid a lot of the crap Hillary has gone through as well.
Very true. She's 51, so she has a little time to build up her political resume if she wants.
Scott Walker, Marco Rubio and others are competing for the best plan to replace Obamacare, a unified theme among Republican presidential contenders. But there is growing evidence that even GOP voters are more concerned about curbing drug prices than dislodging the president’s signature health program.
In April, the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation was surprised by a poll showing more Republicans view drug prices as the No. 1 health care priority than repealing Obamacare. So the foundation looked further, asking Americans what steps they would back to reduce drug costs.
The results, released Thursday morning, were equally striking: Nearly three-quarters of Americans think drug prices are unreasonably high — and most blame that on drug companies’ drive for profits. That’s true among Republicans, Democrats and independents — a rare point of accord in politics.
To be sure, Republicans are still gunning for Obamacare.
Kaiser’s April poll found repealing the law and its individual mandate came in as Republicans’ second and third top health care priorities, chosen by 60 percent and 52 percent, respectively. That trailed the 66 percent who want the president and Congress to address high drug costs for chronically ill patients.
Nonetheless, Republicans are also part of the huge bipartisan majorities that back strong government measures to make drugs affordable, including requiring drug makers to release information on how they set prices (86 percent), allowing Medicare to negotiate for drugs (83 percent), capping what companies can charge for drugs to treat cancer and other life-threatening diseases (76 percent) and importing drugs from Canada (72 percent).
Former President Jimmy Carter said on Thursday that he will begin radiation treatment for melanoma on Thursday afternoon.
Carter was diagnosed with melanoma after doctors removed a mass from his liver. And doctors later found four spots of melanoma in his brain, Carter said during a Thursday press conference.
The former president said that he "was surprisingly at ease" when he found out about the diagnosis. He said he feels good, and that despite some slight pain, he hasn't experienced any additional "weakness."
Carter said he will cut back "dramatically" on his obligations at The Carter Center. He said that he will continue to help with fundraising and will attend board of trustees meetings, but that he will eventually hand the center over to his grandson, Jason Carter.
On August 20 2015 23:48 whatisthisasheep wrote: Donald Trump thrashed a reporter who was offended by the term anchor baby. Wouldn't want to offend anybody living here illegally I suppose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9X1U1Nwwg
If by illegally you mean legally because they are citizens, then sure. I can't wait for the day that we go back to the quadroon and octoroon calculations to determine citizenship and voting eligibility. One step forward, and two steps back with this country.
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