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On July 11 2015 05:59 JinDesu wrote: That's it guys. Doing tiny little good things won't cure cancer or solve energy issues, so let's not do them at all.
Well, there is the argument that we spent a lot of political capital on, essentially, a distraction. Just like how earlier Texas took a case to the Supreme Court so they could keep selling $200 license plates with Longhorns and Realtors on them but not confederate flags and hammers and sickles.
I don't subscribe to this argument, because I think people who really spend a lot of effort on these distractions are highly correlated to people who have idiotic ideas about things that actually matter. If they do focus on actual issues you get people like Gavin Newsom who are in power, and like to work "small to big" and end up just harassing small business owners in their state. Would be much better off if he was concerned about changing the California flag because bears are too scary.
The problem with that is that a lot of people spent time and effort making it so those symbols couldn't be easily removed. Its only a side show because people are trying to keep the symbol where it is.
Yea, and those people are probably idiots as well that would otherwise be tripling mandatory minimums for possessing $5 of meth.
Mandatory minimums were intended to be a threat to low level drug dealers in order to help get them to flip to highers in the organizations. I believe its called buy bust. It just happens to be raicst in practice.
On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote: Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him.
Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates.
For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics.
Appealing? I really thought the public just thought he was an egotistical douche and kind of a joke businessman by this point in his career. He will never win anything in politics because no one will ever take him seriously or think he can actually do the job.
He's straight up leading the Republican party for the nomination, they seem to take him quite seriously now.
Don't rely too heavily on these early polls - Bush, Walker and Rubio are still the leading 3. Trump will get a lot of attention, but don't forget that Herman Cain also once commanded significant attention and was winning straw polls in Florida.
On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote: Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him.
Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates.
For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics.
Appealing? I really thought the public just thought he was an egotistical douche and kind of a joke businessman by this point in his career. He will never win anything in this election because no one will ever take him seriously or think he can actually do the job. If he were to magically win the primary the country will be out of their seats laughing at what the GOP has let itself become and the Dems cruise to an ez life victory.
I'm not really under that impression. At least, I think a decent-sized percentage of Americans still think he can get shit done because he's been held up as a big boss man for so long (primarily on his reality shows, which do get viewership and a reputation). He's certainly an egotistical douche, but I think his matter-of-fact businessman approach makes him pretty much Chris Christie but better in every way (including having more money, a longer CV, and a stronger reputation). His motto is basically "I don't give a shit what you think of me, because I'm going to get shit done", and I think a lot of laymen would believe he could strongarm people and countries (except maybe that whole "Mexico is gonna build their own wall and pay us" thing lmao).
On July 11 2015 05:51 Velr wrote: It will be because you don't slam slavery/racism symbols in front of the decendants of these slaves.
And yet the US Flag flies everywhere. Funny that.
This has less to do with outcry about flag symbolism and more to do with eradicating the spirit of resistance against the Feds and tying all those who don't want anything to do with the Potomac as racists to try and discredit them and their viewpoints. No more, no less.
President Barack Obama will visit El Reno prison in Oklahoma next week as part of the administration's push for criminal justice reform, making him the first ever sitting President to visit a federal prison.
Obama will tour the facility with VICE founder Shane Smith, meeting officers, inmates and staff while filming a VICE special, which will air this fall on HBO. El Reno is a medium-security facility which houses about 1,300 male inmates, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
The announcement comes days after news that Obama plans to commute the sentences of more than 80 federal prisoners convicted for nonviolent drug offenses in coming weeks. It would be the most sweeping use of a President's clemency powers at one time in nearly 50 years.
"Next week the President will underscore the administration's focus on the need to reform and improve America's criminal justice system," White House spokesperson Josh Earnest said during a news briefing on Friday.
Smith said in a release the visit will give viewers a "firsthand look into how the president is thinking about this problem."
The interview is a big get for VICE, whose valuation was estimated at $2.2 billion last year. The company set up shop in Washington in 2014, with Smith vowed vowing to "shake some cages and go crazy and create some enemies" with the company's political coverage. Smith also nabbed a sit-down interview with the President earlier this year.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
On July 11 2015 05:51 KwarK wrote: I'm not entirely sure what that article could possibly be trying to say?
It's pretty clear what he's trying to say, it's just that you probably don't agree with it.
"the social-justice warriors would have been rewarded with yet another round of pop-culture accolades and are empowered to engage yet another target. And, at the end of the day, America will be more ignorant, the cultural Left will be more self-righteous, and our nation’s history will be viewed as an infinitely malleable tool for delivering only Left-approved messages to the hearts and minds of our citizens."
He is communicating the idea that a "whitewashing" of American history is not an achievement to be celebrated, nor does he believe it will end with the destruction of Confederate symbols.
Most Americans would agree that white-supremacy is an intrinsic evil and that Confederate symbolism should not be used in such a manner as to celebrate white-supremacy. Where most Americans disagree with the loud minority is that they do not see all displays of Confederate symbolism to be expressions of racism, nor celebrations of slavery. And most Americans do seem to recognize the value in understanding that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were, at the end of the day, American soldiers. Fighting on the wrong side of history, but valorous and worthy of respect all the same.
Also, it seems clear that the author has a serious problem with desecrating the burial site of a fallen soldier in order to prove some vague point about "moving past our past."
"the social-justice warriors would have been rewarded with yet another round of pop-culture accolades and are empowered to engage yet another target. And, at the end of the day, America will be more ignorant, the cultural Left will be more self-righteous, and our nation’s history will be viewed as an infinitely malleable tool for delivering only Left-approved messages to the hearts and minds of our citizens."
He is communicating the idea that a "whitewashing" of American history is not an achievement to be celebrated, nor does he believe it will end with the destruction of Confederate symbols.
Most Americans would agree that white-supremacy is an intrinsic evil and that Confederate symbolism should not be used in such a manner as to celebrate white-supremacy. Where most Americans disagree with the loud minority is that they do not see all displays of Confederate symbolism to be expressions of racism, nor celebrations of slavery. And most Americans do seem to recognize the value in understanding that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were, at the end of the day, American soldiers. Fighting on the wrong side of history, but valorous and worthy of respect all the same.
Also, it seems clear that the author has a serious problem with desecrating the burial site of a fallen soldier in order to prove some vague point about "moving past our past."
The fact that stubborn people are still clinging to the flag and claiming it isn't a symbol of racism, hatred, and division shows why it's soooooo fucking hard to make progress on the big problems. It takes a church shooting just to acknowledge there is a problem (though it's still not enough for some) with the damn flag. Short of a NAACP meeting getting massacred by a swat team, I don't know what it would take to actually engage in real conversations about racism in this country. .
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
Yeah, about that... Trump is one of many clowns fit into the same car.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
Yeah, about that... Trump is one of many clowns fit into the same car.
You have to give him credit for staying consistant for 30 years. Trump has been saying the same stuff since 1988
President Barack Obama will visit El Reno prison in Oklahoma next week as part of the administration's push for criminal justice reform, making him the first ever sitting President to visit a federal prison.
Obama will tour the facility with VICE founder Shane Smith, meeting officers, inmates and staff while filming a VICE special, which will air this fall on HBO. El Reno is a medium-security facility which houses about 1,300 male inmates, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
The announcement comes days after news that Obama plans to commute the sentences of more than 80 federal prisoners convicted for nonviolent drug offenses in coming weeks. It would be the most sweeping use of a President's clemency powers at one time in nearly 50 years.
"Next week the President will underscore the administration's focus on the need to reform and improve America's criminal justice system," White House spokesperson Josh Earnest said during a news briefing on Friday.
Smith said in a release the visit will give viewers a "firsthand look into how the president is thinking about this problem."
The interview is a big get for VICE, whose valuation was estimated at $2.2 billion last year. The company set up shop in Washington in 2014, with Smith vowed vowing to "shake some cages and go crazy and create some enemies" with the company's political coverage. Smith also nabbed a sit-down interview with the President earlier this year.
Interesting that in all these years of American history, a sitting President has never visited a prison. Also, cool to see Vice get that exclusive access with Obama.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
Yeah, about that... Trump is one of many clowns fit into the same car.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
All these issues you listed are overlooked for now because people like his stick-it-to-them style. Once they learn more about him they will turn away. It has nothing to do with those things being representative of the party, espeically since so much of it is just made up in your own head.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
All these issues you listed are overlooked for now because people like his stick-it-to-them style. Once they learn more about him they will turn away. It has nothing to do with those things being representative of the party, espeically since so much of it is just made up in your own head.
roflmao. Practically every person in the country knows how Trump feels about immigrants, birtherism, and his ego.
Are we on the same planet?
EDIT: I think Republicans haven't really been paying attention if they think any of that is going to be a problem, they haven't even got him donating to Hillary to hurt him. If that doesn't work Republican's only hope is to try to talk Christie into going more Trump than Trump since Christie has nothing to lose at this point.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
Yeah, about that... Trump is one of many clowns fit into the same car.
On July 11 2015 11:57 whatisthisasheep wrote: CNN literally said Donald Trump 10 times a hour nonstop for 24 hours straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6UzJorQE4 Might as well make him the CNN mascot
One would think it would be pretty easy for the Republican party to shut him down, unless the birtherism, racism, and maniacal egotism, is actually representative of a large swath of the party.
Yeah, about that... Trump is one of many clowns fit into the same car.
EPT
