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On July 10 2015 13:50 Mohdoo wrote:
I can't help but wonder if maybe Trump really does intend to run for president. Anyone else starting to think "maybe this isn't just a stunt"?
Given that he's actually polling well compared to his competition, it's not really surprising. I imagine everyone would make the jump from "joke campaign" to "actual campaign" if it looked like they had a real chance.
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On July 10 2015 14:18 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 13:50 Mohdoo wrote:
I can't help but wonder if maybe Trump really does intend to run for president. Anyone else starting to think "maybe this isn't just a stunt"? Given that he's actually polling well compared to his competition, it's not really surprising. I imagine everyone would make the jump from "joke campaign" to "actual campaign" if it looked like they had a real chance.
One thing that I think is interesting is that he could out-fund every other candidate from his personal fortune. If he wanted, he could spend billions of his own money and very likely buy himself the republican nomination.
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Money helps, but there's limits to it. He can't just buy it by spending tons of cash. Especially in a high profile race where there's enough other people throwing lots of money in as well.
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Money is mostly a threshold question. It's basically a measure of if you have enough dedicated supporters. A recent example would be gay marriage, which never had substantial support until its dedicated minority spent huge sums on advocacy.
Almost no candidate wins or loses based on money, and if they do, it is because no one really gave a shit about them to get them to the threshold.
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Well, I wonder if he doesn't make it through the Republican primary, would he become the next Ross Perot and go third party?
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falling -> no he wouldn't. He often runs, and no one ever expects him to actually stay in. I don't think he really cares enough.
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It's basically the best publicity money can buy.
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On July 10 2015 16:42 Falling wrote:
Well, I wonder if he doesn't make it through the Republican primary, would he become the next Ross Perot and go third party?
He's already floated the idea, and he claims he's going to have his financials in on time (which is early for what's expected).
He's got like 90 days worth of extensions after next week I think it is. He claims he doesn't plan on using the extensions.
EDIT: If the financials come in, this is a real deal run. If Jeb wins, and it's not from a total meltdown, he'll probably run third party.
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Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him.
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On July 10 2015 16:42 Falling wrote:
Well, I wonder if he doesn't make it through the Republican primary, would he become the next Ross Perot and go third party?
If that happens, then the Democrats could run nearly anyone and still win. The electoral map is already skewed against the Republicans.
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Some interesting questions are going to be asked by the miss USA judges on Sunday and Trump will be In attendence. Should be enteraining to say the least
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On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him.
$9 billion is Trump's net worth, right?
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6
Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates.
For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics.
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On July 11 2015 00:30 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 16:42 Falling wrote:
Well, I wonder if he doesn't make it through the Republican primary, would he become the next Ross Perot and go third party? If that happens, then the Democrats could run nearly anyone and still win. The electoral map is already skewed against the Republicans.
Not to mention that a lot of the Republicans redistricting efforts are slowly being thrown out by courts, further hurting their chances. I don’t know why they thought the courts would let them pull the shit they did.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/us/supreme-court-upholds-creation-of-arizona-redistricting-commission.html?_r=0
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I don't think net worth is the right number to be looking at.
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On July 11 2015 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him. $9 billion is Trump's net worth, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates. For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics.
Net worth and "Money he can spend" are 2 very different things.
He doesn't have a bank account with 9 billion in it.
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On July 11 2015 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him. $9 billion is Trump's net worth, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates. For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics.
Appealing? I really thought the public just thought he was an egotistical douche and kind of a joke businessman by this point in his career. He will never win anything in this election because no one will ever take him seriously or think he can actually do the job. If he were to magically win the primary the country will be out of their seats laughing at what the GOP has let itself become and the Dems cruise to an ez life victory.
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On July 11 2015 01:26 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him. $9 billion is Trump's net worth, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates. For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics. Appealing? I really thought the public just thought he was an egotistical douche and kind of a joke businessman by this point in his career. He will never win anything in politics because no one will ever take him seriously or think he can actually do the job.
He's straight up leading the Republican party for the nomination, they seem to take him quite seriously now.
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On July 11 2015 01:27 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 01:26 Slaughter wrote:On July 11 2015 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him. $9 billion is Trump's net worth, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates. For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics. Appealing? I really thought the public just thought he was an egotistical douche and kind of a joke businessman by this point in his career. He will never win anything in politics because no one will ever take him seriously or think he can actually do the job. He's straight up leading the Republican party for the nomination, they seem to take him quite seriously now.
I will actually believe that when he wins in the election, not this retarded fluff shit the media hypes way before anything substantial actually happens.
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On July 11 2015 01:27 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 01:26 Slaughter wrote:On July 11 2015 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him. $9 billion is Trump's net worth, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates. For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics. Appealing? I really thought the public just thought he was an egotistical douche and kind of a joke businessman by this point in his career. He will never win anything in politics because no one will ever take him seriously or think he can actually do the job. He's straight up leading the Republican party for the nomination, they seem to take him quite seriously now.
I think that might be more representative of how little people know of the other republican candidates. Or that the Republicans grabbing headlines for the last 4 years have been clowns like Ted Cruz or damaged goods like Christy.
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On July 11 2015 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2015 22:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump isn't near as rich as he claims to be. He *might* be about rich as Perot, but with super PAC's that counts for a lot less.
Besides, he's already bought publicity. Or rather, he's lost a shit ton of money because people now refuse to do business with him. $9 billion is Trump's net worth, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6Even if it's exaggerated, that's still more than the hundreds of millions raised by other candidates. For comparison, Ross Perot had about $3.5 billion net worth. Although I think what's more important is the fact that Trump is a hell of a lot more intimidating yet appealing to the common person who doesn't really follow politics. Net worth and "Money he can spend" are 2 very different things. He doesn't have a bank account with 9 billion in it.
Fair enough, although he's clearly got incredibly deep pockets that he could unload for a decent shot at the nomination, I think.
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