• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:53
CEST 02:53
KST 09:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call7[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!13Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week0Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call BW General Discussion Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier Toronto invitational lan 22 august
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2790 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2072

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2070 2071 2072 2073 2074 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 29 2015 21:13 GMT
#41421
quick question about the supreme court. anyone know what happens if a justice recuses themselves and the remaining justices end up in a 4-4 split?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
June 29 2015 21:14 GMT
#41422
I don't think they would let that happen, but I'm not an expert on the Court's history. There have been a couple times they haven't had a majority opinion, just multiple concurring opinions, and had to go with the plurality decision, however.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-29 21:26:34
June 29 2015 21:24 GMT
#41423
On June 30 2015 05:56 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Yeah, like when Walker signed a bill into law that weakened Wisconsin's gun laws.......on the day of the Charleston Massacre. Does that count as a carry-on or should Walker just go ahead and check that?


I don't really follow this. What should he have done? wait a day before signing the bill? gun laws had nothing to do with the Charleston Massacre.

This is a national election, dawg. Whether or not gun laws have anything to do with an act of mass violence is not the primary question.

Also, lol at "nothing to do." Your expertise on America's problem with gun violence speaks for itself.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
June 29 2015 21:45 GMT
#41424
On June 30 2015 06:24 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 05:56 LuckyFool wrote:
On June 30 2015 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Yeah, like when Walker signed a bill into law that weakened Wisconsin's gun laws.......on the day of the Charleston Massacre. Does that count as a carry-on or should Walker just go ahead and check that?


I don't really follow this. What should he have done? wait a day before signing the bill? gun laws had nothing to do with the Charleston Massacre.

This is a national election, dawg. Whether or not gun laws have anything to do with an act of mass violence is not the primary question.

Also, lol at "nothing to do." Your expertise on America's problem with gun violence speaks for itself.

Didn't he get the gun illegally?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14195 Posts
June 29 2015 21:52 GMT
#41425
On June 30 2015 06:45 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 06:24 farvacola wrote:
On June 30 2015 05:56 LuckyFool wrote:
On June 30 2015 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Yeah, like when Walker signed a bill into law that weakened Wisconsin's gun laws.......on the day of the Charleston Massacre. Does that count as a carry-on or should Walker just go ahead and check that?


I don't really follow this. What should he have done? wait a day before signing the bill? gun laws had nothing to do with the Charleston Massacre.

This is a national election, dawg. Whether or not gun laws have anything to do with an act of mass violence is not the primary question.

Also, lol at "nothing to do." Your expertise on America's problem with gun violence speaks for itself.

Didn't he get the gun illegally?

But even if he did or didn't that would still have to do with gun laws having something to do with it.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-29 21:53:56
June 29 2015 21:52 GMT
#41426
On June 30 2015 06:13 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
quick question about the supreme court. anyone know what happens if a justice recuses themselves and the remaining justices end up in a 4-4 split?


If there is a tie, the lower court ruling stands. It doesn't create nationwide legal precedent though.
日本語が分かりますか
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#41427
On June 30 2015 06:13 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
quick question about the supreme court. anyone know what happens if a justice recuses themselves and the remaining justices end up in a 4-4 split?


The ruling of a lower court is upheld (i.e. state). I also believe a joint decision is written rather than a majority/minority.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 29 2015 22:22 GMT
#41428
One of many fixes I'd like to put in: have a 10th justice who only rules if there would otherwise be an even number of justices (i.e. an odd number of justices recused themselves or something).
Then the problem of 4-4 rulings would be incredibly rare.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 29 2015 22:23 GMT
#41429
On June 30 2015 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Yeah, like when Walker signed a bill into law that weakened Wisconsin's gun laws.......on the day of the Charleston Massacre. Does that count as a carry-on or should Walker just go ahead and check that?


Anyone who thinks that Scott Walker has legitimate appeal and has some kind of shot at winning is off their rocker. The man has put his state on the fast track to being a complete economic wreck by working solely for the interests of businesses. When you compare it to Minnesota right next door, which has a fantastic economy while working under a DFL governor and (until recently) a DFL Senate and House, then he just looks even worse.

If, by some miracle, he won the Republican nomination, he would get destroyed in the general election.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24285 Posts
June 29 2015 22:43 GMT
#41430
WASHINGTON -- It only took five months before the top donor to candidates, political party committees and political action committees in 2015 surpassed the giving of all top donors from the previous election cycle. This radical change in the amounts a single donor can give is all thanks to new contribution limits Congress slipped into the end-of-year omnibus budget legislation passed in December.

Warren Stephens, the owner of the Arkansas-based investment firm Stephens Inc., has given at least $800,000 in limited contributions to candidates, party committees and PACs through the end of May, according to a review of Federal Election Commission records. This total only includes contributions to committees accepting limited contributions (known as “hard money”) and excludes unlimited super PAC donations (known as “soft money”).

A perennial top donor to Republican Party politicians and political committees, Stephens gave $265,400 to politicians, party committees and PACs in 2014, which made him among the top 100 donors that year, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. His $800,000 tops the more than $570,000 that hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer gave over the entire 2014 election cycle. (These totals don't even include giving to candidates after March, as the next disclosure date for candidates is July 15.)

This dramatic rise in individuals' limited contributions is a consequence of the creation of new party fundraising accounts for the six national party committees included in the spending bill.

The omnibus spending bill created a new account for building expenses within all six committees, and another for expenses related to a party nominating convention for the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee. It also expanded the limits to the recount accounts held by all six. While donors are limited to giving $33,400 per year to a national party committee, the limits for these new or expanded accounts were set at $100,200. In total, a single donor can now give $801,600 per year to the party of their choice.

Donor giving has also increased thanks to the 2013 McCutcheon v. FEC ruling that invalidated aggregate campaign contributions limits. Previously, donors were capped from giving more than $123,300 in one election cycle to candidates, party committees and PACs. (These limits did not apply to super PAC giving.)


Source

Freeeeeedooooooooommmm!!
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 29 2015 22:46 GMT
#41431
Somebody remind me why the GOP is suddenly accountable for this clown? http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html

Also, reminder, the birther conspiracy was started by Democrat supporters of Hillary.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24285 Posts
June 29 2015 22:56 GMT
#41432
On June 30 2015 07:46 Jerubaal wrote:
Somebody remind me why the GOP is suddenly accountable for this clown? http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html

Also, reminder, the birther conspiracy was started by Democrat supporters of Hillary.


He's in second place for the GOP nomination in New Hampshire?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
June 30 2015 00:39 GMT
#41433
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-kkk-propaganda-whittier-20150628-story.html

The distribution of white supremacist propaganda in Whittier follows similar incidents in Orange County. Last week, about 100 homes in Fullerton received KKK fliers – also inside plastic bags with a rock and a piece of candy – criticizing blacks, Latinos and Jewish people, according to Fullerton police Sgt. Kathryn Hamel.


zf
Profile Joined April 2011
231 Posts
June 30 2015 01:48 GMT
#41434
On June 30 2015 06:13 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
quick question about the supreme court. anyone know what happens if a justice recuses themselves and the remaining justices end up in a 4-4 split?


The lower court decision is affirmed, and the opinion with the "narrowest" holding controls. Good luck determining which one that is.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 30 2015 03:49 GMT
#41435
On June 30 2015 06:13 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
quick question about the supreme court. anyone know what happens if a justice recuses themselves and the remaining justices end up in a 4-4 split?

These days the supremes are acting like a legislature, so I would presume that'd be the Vice President in his Article 1 role.
Kidding...

On June 30 2015 05:56 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Yeah, like when Walker signed a bill into law that weakened Wisconsin's gun laws.......on the day of the Charleston Massacre. Does that count as a carry-on or should Walker just go ahead and check that?


I don't really follow this. What should he have done? wait a day before signing the bill? gun laws had nothing to do with the Charleston Massacre.

Pretty much this. His supporters aren't fazed by psychological connections between weapons used peacefully and those used unlawfully.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24285 Posts
June 30 2015 03:54 GMT
#41436
I'm going to call it now that if Trump lasts at least until the first debate stage then Jeb Bush 100% gets the Republican Nomination.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 30 2015 04:59 GMT
#41437
The Supreme Court's decision on Monday to uphold the constitutionality of Arizona's independent redistricting commission has some hoping their model could now pave the way for other states to adopt a less partisan way of drawing congressional lines.

"There are a lot of efforts around the country to try and get commissions enacted, and now I think those efforts are going to go full-steam ahead," said Nicholas Stephanopoulos, a law professor at the University of Chicago who studies elections and redistricting. "Now that the Constitution has been cleaned up, the green light is definitely visible through this."


Source

Notorious RBG strikes again for justice and democracy.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 06:40:33
June 30 2015 06:39 GMT
#41438
On June 29 2015 10:12 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 09:45 KwarK wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:25 Nyxisto wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:00 KwarK wrote:
On June 29 2015 04:43 Yoav wrote:
On June 29 2015 03:57 KwarK wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:12 Paljas wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:00 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:43 killa_robot wrote:
[quote]

Doesn't change the fact that people are overacting here. I agree the flag should be removed from government properties (not sure why it was allowed to begin with), but people are blowing things way out of proportion.

Some crazy guy spouts racist crap and shoots up a church, and suddenly the confederate flag is too racist to fly anymore? It shouldn't have been flying to begin with, but that's the sort of connection that was made?

How was the flag even brought up? Did the crazy guy have some connection with one?


Not sure if it can be simply explained to someone from another country?

Yes he did have a connection.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[image loading]


There's more if you look.

It's not "suddenly too racist", suddenly the racists aren't powerful enough to keep flying it.

Not everyone who likes the flag is racist though. Yes racists do adhere to it as a symbol, and therefore it is a problem, but a lot of people also identify with that flag and the Confederacy because that's the side that their ancestors fought for.

My ancestors fought for Hitler.
Maybe some peole shouldn't admire their ancestors

I dunno, vast majority of Germans fought for Germany. Also most soldiers in that war were colossal racists. You can still honour the dead although there is a cutoff when you're Japanese and honouring war criminals.


There's a difference between "honoring dead" (or empathizing with soldiers in a shitty situation) and flying the flag of a wicked cause that decent people may have gotten caught up in though family or national loyalty. Would it honor the German war dead to fly the Nazi flag? No, it would dishonor them by celebrating the evil that caused their suffering and death. The same is true of the Confederates. And let's be real, if the Confederacy had lasted to the 1940s, it wouldn't have been on the right side of that war.

I don't disagree. I was just arguing that Germans weren't necessarily fighting for Nazism and Nazism didn't have a monopoly on distasteful racial views. You can honour your WW2 German veterans without invoking Nazism and the Nazi flag.

Not really. Almost all people here who had grand- or great-grandparents fighting in the war either don't talk about it or condemn it. The war shrine stuff that Japan has would be completely unthinkable. If you're honouring ww2 war veterans here there's a 99% chance that you're a far-right history revisionist.

That sucks. Your average German soldier was, I suspect, motivated by the exact same things as the Russian, British and American soldiers. If anything as members of the military they were more removed from Nazi society and politics than civilians.


Idk, I'm not comfortable with shifting the guilt onto the leadership. I mean there will always be fanatic racists or rabid segregationists. To be guilty you need to be actually conscious about what is wrong, and I assume the average Nazi leader was about as aware of his wrongdoings as a rabid dog.

It's pretty much only the 'moderates' who can make a difference. If you're 'just doing your duty' but you're aware that what you're doing is wrong at that moment you become guilty. So I don't really think you can grant the average soldier or civilian an absolution.


How about the bankers and industrialists who bankrolled the nazis and got off with slaps on the wrist while their wehrmacht puppets took the fall at nuremberg? They took over all the jewish owned wealth and kept it after the war. You know, the guys who still own germany and the eu

damn right the bad guys won. Their names are standard oil and IG Farben
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24285 Posts
June 30 2015 19:23 GMT
#41439
Anyone looking for a laugh should check out #AskBobby lmao.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 30 2015 19:38 GMT
#41440
It's really sad that Bobby Jindal is basically on the same level as Trump.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Prev 1 2070 2071 2072 2073 2074 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 186
JuggernautJason37
CosmosSc2 36
EnDerr 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 16376
Rain 2378
GuemChi 1750
Artosis 634
Bale 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever599
NeuroSwarm139
Counter-Strike
minikerr65
m0e_tv0
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox384
Mew2King191
Other Games
JimRising 535
shahzam534
XaKoH 435
C9.Mang0346
ToD188
Livibee85
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 92
• davetesta21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 10
• RayReign 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22025
Other Games
• Scarra1575
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
9h 7m
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
10h 7m
PiGosaur Cup
23h 7m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-24
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.