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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23640 Posts
June 30 2015 19:54 GMT
#41441
On July 01 2015 04:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's really sad that Bobby Jindal is basically on the same level as Trump.


Except Trump is in 2nd, not 12th.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 30 2015 20:10 GMT
#41442
Pope Francis will meet the homeless, immigrants and prisoners as well as President Obama, and become the first pope to address Congress when he visits the U.S. in September, the Vatican announced today.

The Sept. 19-28 visit will take Francis to Cuba and the U.S., where he will visit Washington, New York and Philadelphia.

The pope arrives in Washington on Tuesday, Sept. 22. He'll meet Obama the next day and address Congress and meet the homeless at St. Patrick's Catholic Church on Sept. 24. He then heads to the U.N. in New York for a meeting on sustainable development, to the 9/11 Memorial and Museum for a multi-faith service, and to a school in Harlem. Francis has been outspoken about his concern for the environment.

In Philadelphia, where he arrives Sept. 26, Francis will head to the World Meeting of Families and also host a "meeting for religious liberty" with immigrants and Hispanics on Independence Mall.

The Associated Press adds: "U.S. Catholic bishops have for years decried what they say are attacks on religious liberty, particularly over national health care laws that require insurance coverage for contraception. The bishops' latest rallying cry has come in the wake of the Supreme Court decision declaring that same-sex marriage is legal nationwide."

Francis, the Vatican says, will celebrate Mass at the World Meeting of Families on Sept. 27. That event, the AP reports, is expected to attract 1.5 million people.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 01 2015 04:29 GMT
#41443
Christie's running: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chris-christie-announces-2016-presidential-campaign/story?id=32125633

Times like these I wish r/fatpeoplehate was still a thing (and I say that as a fan of Christie), their reaction would've been hilarious
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 01 2015 04:51 GMT
#41444
On July 01 2015 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 04:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's really sad that Bobby Jindal is basically on the same level as Trump.


Except Trump is in 2nd, not 12th.


Well, he didn't tank the economy and education system of an entire state
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 01 2015 04:53 GMT
#41445
On July 01 2015 13:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 01 2015 04:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's really sad that Bobby Jindal is basically on the same level as Trump.


Except Trump is in 2nd, not 12th.


Well, he didn't tank the economy and education system of an entire state

the fact State GOP are working hard to distance themselves from him is a sign.

Of what I'm not sure.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 01 2015 16:36 GMT
#41446
Despite a week of bad news, a Quinnipiac University poll of Iowa voters released Wednesday shows no sign of the Trump-mentum slowing.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) saw his lead over the “muddled” field shrink in Iowa, where support among likely GOP caucus participants is at 18 percent, down from 21 percent in May, according to the poll. Walker is expected to formally enter the race July 13.

Billionaire and (former) reality TV star Donald Trump came in tied with former neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson at 10 percent, with Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) following closely behind at 9 percent each.

Bush, who has said he’ll skip the caucus, has 8 percent backing, with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) at 7 percent and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 5 percent. No other candidate polled above 4 percent. Five percent of those polled remained undecided.

Trump shocked poll watchers last month when the unlikely candidate polled second only to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush among likely New Hampshire voters in the GOP primary.


Source
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 01 2015 16:44 GMT
#41447
On July 02 2015 01:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Despite a week of bad news, a Quinnipiac University poll of Iowa voters released Wednesday shows no sign of the Trump-mentum slowing.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) saw his lead over the “muddled” field shrink in Iowa, where support among likely GOP caucus participants is at 18 percent, down from 21 percent in May, according to the poll. Walker is expected to formally enter the race July 13.

Billionaire and (former) reality TV star Donald Trump came in tied with former neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson at 10 percent, with Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) following closely behind at 9 percent each.

Bush, who has said he’ll skip the caucus, has 8 percent backing, with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) at 7 percent and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 5 percent. No other candidate polled above 4 percent. Five percent of those polled remained undecided.

Trump shocked poll watchers last month when the unlikely candidate polled second only to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush among likely New Hampshire voters in the GOP primary.


Source

I have no idea what makes him so appealing. Carson and Paul doing well though, at least that's nice.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 01 2015 17:01 GMT
#41448
President Barack Obama announced Wednesday that the U.S. and Cuba will reopen their embassies in Havana and Washington, heralding a "new chapter" in relations after a half-century of hostilities.

"We don't have to be imprisoned by the past," Obama said from White House Rose Garden. "Americans and Cubans alike are ready to move forward."

Cuban television broadcast Obama's statement live, underscoring the new spirit. A state television anchor read a letter from Cuban President Raul Castro to Obama in which he wrote that Cuba is "encouraged by the reciprocal intention to develop respectful relations and cooperation between our people and governments."

The embassy agreement marks the biggest tangible step toward normalizing relations since the surprise announcement in December that the U.S. and Cuba were restarting diplomatic ties. The posts in Washington and Havana are scheduled to open July 20, Cuba's Foreign Ministry said.

Secretary of State John Kerry said he'll travel later this summer to Havana to raise the American flag over the new U.S. Embassy to Cuba. He called Wednesday's announcement of normalized diplomatic relations "long overdue,” crediting Obama and Castro with making the necessary change.


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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 01 2015 18:46 GMT
#41449
On July 02 2015 01:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 01:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Despite a week of bad news, a Quinnipiac University poll of Iowa voters released Wednesday shows no sign of the Trump-mentum slowing.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) saw his lead over the “muddled” field shrink in Iowa, where support among likely GOP caucus participants is at 18 percent, down from 21 percent in May, according to the poll. Walker is expected to formally enter the race July 13.

Billionaire and (former) reality TV star Donald Trump came in tied with former neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson at 10 percent, with Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) following closely behind at 9 percent each.

Bush, who has said he’ll skip the caucus, has 8 percent backing, with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) at 7 percent and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 5 percent. No other candidate polled above 4 percent. Five percent of those polled remained undecided.

Trump shocked poll watchers last month when the unlikely candidate polled second only to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush among likely New Hampshire voters in the GOP primary.


Source

I have no idea what makes him so appealing. Carson and Paul doing well though, at least that's nice.

His passionate distain for everything he disdains. If any of his top 2-3 issues are your top issues, he's the only one using rhetoric that really would make you feel like he cares. People don't care if he can win the general yet, so basically every voter not picking Rubio/Walker/Bush is essentially lodging a protest vote for what issues they want in the debates.

It's a bit like Bernie, but except divided into a few people (trump and Rand primarily, with a dash of Cruz and Graham) whereas Hillary is the top 3+undecided+the remaining governors.
Freeeeeeedom
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
July 01 2015 19:28 GMT
#41450
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.
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RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 19:58:34
July 01 2015 19:55 GMT
#41451
On July 02 2015 04:28 Clonester wrote:
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.

I just want to watch a debate where Trump calls Jeb... Yeb Arbusto to his face.
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 20:39:52
July 01 2015 20:30 GMT
#41452
Trump is going to pull a reverse Al Franken.

Dems messed up not convincing Elisabeth Warren to run. She would have alot easier path to the presidency than Clinton.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 21:33:17
July 01 2015 21:26 GMT
#41453
On July 02 2015 04:28 Clonester wrote:
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.

Only Republicans who vote in primaries get to decide that, dawg.
On July 02 2015 05:30 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump is going to pull a reverse Al Franken.

Dems messed up not convincing Elisabeth Warren to run. She would have alot easier path to the presidency than Clinton.

Generally, good candidates for a party's nomination do not need to be convinced, though I suppose this might deserve another look.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
July 01 2015 22:14 GMT
#41454
On July 02 2015 04:28 Clonester wrote:
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.

Why do people underestimate Trump so much? If he can successfully bully a standing president into releasing his birth certificate to the world, he can figure out how to win an election.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
July 01 2015 22:17 GMT
#41455
On July 02 2015 07:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 04:28 Clonester wrote:
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.

Why do people underestimate Trump so much? If he can successfully bully a standing president into releasing his birth certificate to the world, he can figure out how to win an election.

That's not quite how it works, luckily.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 01 2015 22:31 GMT
#41456
On July 02 2015 06:26 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 04:28 Clonester wrote:
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.

Only Republicans who vote in primaries get to decide that, dawg.
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 05:30 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump is going to pull a reverse Al Franken.

Dems messed up not convincing Elisabeth Warren to run. She would have alot easier path to the presidency than Clinton.

Generally, good candidates for a party's nomination do not need to be convinced, though I suppose this might deserve another look.

Ideally I'd vote for Christie (and he'd probably win the primary in my home state of NJ) but I'd be happy backing anyone in the primary who isn't Trump, Cruz or Bush.
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 22:48:51
July 01 2015 22:36 GMT
#41457
On July 02 2015 07:17 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 07:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 02 2015 04:28 Clonester wrote:
Please fellow Americans, dont make Trump to republicans candidate. I dont want to see Hilary become your president.

Why do people underestimate Trump so much? If he can successfully bully a standing president into releasing his birth certificate to the world, he can figure out how to win an election.

That's not quite how it works, luckily.

Al gore would like to tell you a story.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 22:41:30
July 01 2015 22:38 GMT
#41458
Randomly pointing at unusual things that have happened in US politics as evidence that a specific unusual thing will happen is not a sound undertaking.

Edit: I like Al Gore though
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
July 01 2015 22:56 GMT
#41459
On July 02 2015 07:38 farvacola wrote:
Randomly pointing at unusual things that have happened in US politics as evidence that a specific unusual thing will happen is not a sound undertaking.

Edit: I like Al Gore though

If it wasent for Al, me and you couldnt have this conversation on his invention :p
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 01 2015 23:27 GMT
#41460
On July 02 2015 05:30 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump is going to pull a reverse Al Franken.

Dems messed up not convincing Elisabeth Warren to run. She would have alot easier path to the presidency than Clinton.


Warren is way to far to the left to be elected nationally IMO. I fear the same is the case with Sanders. I'd rather have Hillary convincingly beat the Republican candidate rather than have a close race between Sanders and the Republican. We don't need a Walker or Rubio or yet another Bush presidency.

Don't forget, the average American voter is very different from the average TL user :p
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