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oneofthem
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Yoav
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In March, US belief at 42% creationism, 50% in evolution. (Questions asked don't distinguish between theistic evolution and intelligent design.) | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24514 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RB5b7uS.png) The party trend is a bit confusing also. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bhhHclT.png) Source | ||
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oneofthem
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GreenHorizons
United States24514 Posts
On November 10 2014 05:57 oneofthem wrote: im loving this pope though. My personal favorite Pope. Washing prisoners feet, getting rid of the gold throne, basically constantly being told he has to be more distant from the people by his handlers. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xMdIkDB.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/D9QOcrW.jpg) He's pretty much what I thought Christians were supposed to be. More of the open arms, less of the fist pounding table. | ||
Liquid`Drone
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IgnE
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farvacola
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Livelovedie
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 10 2014 07:24 Livelovedie wrote: Pope Francis has been a good pope. Part of me doesn't like this though because I feel like more people might turn nonreligious if the catholic church didn't evolve. Between a catholic that care for others and an atheist douche that only care about money, I personally prefer the pious one. | ||
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Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:09 WhiteDog wrote: Between a catholic that care for others and an atheist douche that only care about money, I personally prefer the pious one. Agreed, but I would assume that a person willing to leave the Catholic church because of social issues probably is pious. | ||
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oneofthem
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koreasilver
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On November 10 2014 05:53 GreenHorizons wrote: I was talking about just Catholics just to be clear and I guess it's closer to ~28% I do agree the Protestant numbers scare me more. The party trend is a bit confusing also. + Show Spoiler + Source This at least makes me a little assured. I've always been bewildered at how NA Southern Baptists, Fundamentalists, and Evangelicals were so anti-intellectual when one of the main legacies of the Protestant tradition was an ideological purging of superstition and the development of historical-criticism on texts. While it is no surprise that a significant portion American Evangelicals are more-or-less young earth creationists, at least the other "mainline" churches are not by an even more significant margin. What exactly they're counting here as "mainline" though, who knows. | ||
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Yoav
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Also, I do always think it's a little odd how ignored the black churches are by the media, given how legitimately influential they are. I guess there's the whole not fitting in the mold thing. Socially conservative and economically liberal? How is this possible!?! | ||
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Introvert
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oneofthem
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On November 10 2014 10:33 Yoav wrote: Rock on mainline! Also, I do always think it's a little odd how ignored the black churches are by the media, given how legitimately influential they are. I guess there's the whole not fitting in the mold thing. Socially conservative and economically liberal? How is this possible!?! it's a separate world but pretty central to the obama campaign's grassroots efforts, particularly in areas like miami | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On November 10 2014 10:50 oneofthem wrote: it's a separate world but pretty central to the obama campaign's grassroots efforts, particularly in areas like miami Not arguing they are unimportant: they are a critical political force in terms of actually getting people out to vote. But it's weird that they are so underdiscussed in most media. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
a scary world populated by african fathers and open communists, as the media's fair and balanced coverage of the controversies that do make it to the surface would tell you. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24514 Posts
On November 10 2014 10:33 Yoav wrote: Rock on mainline! Also, I do always think it's a little odd how ignored the black churches are by the media, given how legitimately influential they are. I guess there's the whole not fitting in the mold thing. Socially conservative and economically liberal? How is this possible!?! Well it comes up when social stuff is close to passing in the south and California. It's those same groups who help push anti-gay and anti-abortion type legislation over the edge in bluer areas. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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MUSCAT, Oman (AP) — The Obama administration is facing its last best chance to curb Iran's nuclear program — not just to meet an end-of-the-month deadline for a deal, but also to seal one before skeptical Republicans who will control Congress next year are able to scuttle it. Years of negotiations to limit Tehran's nuclear production entered the final stretch Sunday as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry met with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif and European Union senior adviser Catherine Ashton in Oman's capital. With no immediate agreement in sight, officials said the discussions were expected to continue into Monday. The stakes are high as the Nov. 24 deadline approaches. A deal could quell Mideast fears about Iran's ability to build a nuclear bomb and help revive the Islamic Republic's economy. It also would deliver a foreign policy triumph for the White House, which is being hammered by prominent Republican senators over its handling of the civil war in Syria and the growth of the Islamic State militancy in Iraq. Those same critics seek to put the brakes on U.S.-Iranian bartering, if not shut it down completely, once they seize the majority on Jan. 3. The Obama administration "needs to understand that this Iranian regime cares more about trying to weaken America and push us out of the Middle East than cooperating with us," Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona, the incoming chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said in a statement last week. Source | ||
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