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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 10 2014 04:35 GMT
#26781
Almost 3 billion gallons of oil industry wastewater have been illegally dumped into central California aquifers that supply drinking water and farming irrigation, according to state documents obtained by the Center for Biological Diversity. The wastewater entered the aquifers through at least nine injection disposal wells used by the oil industry to dispose of waste contaminated with fracking fluids and other pollutants.

The documents also reveal that Central Valley Water Board testing found high levels of arsenic, thallium and nitrates — contaminants sometimes found in oil industry wastewater — in water-supply wells near these waste-disposal operations.

“Clean water is one of California’s most crucial resources, and these documents make it clear that state regulators have utterly failed to protect our water from oil industry pollution,” said Hollin Kretzmann, a Center attorney. “Much more testing is needed to gauge the full extent of water pollution and the threat to public health. But Governor Brown should move quickly to halt fracking to ward off a surge in oil industry wastewater that California simply isn’t prepared to dispose of safely.”

The state’s Water Board confirmed beyond doubt that at least nine wastewater disposal wells have been injecting waste into aquifers that contain high-quality water that is supposed to be protected under federal and state law.

Thallium is an extremely toxic chemical commonly used in rat poison. Arsenic is a toxic chemical that can cause cancer. Some studies show that even low-level exposure to arsenic in drinking water can compromise the immune system’s ability to fight illness.

“Arsenic and thallium are extremely dangerous chemicals,” said Timothy Krantz, a professor of environmental studies at the University of Redlands. “The fact that high concentrations are showing up in multiple water wells close to wastewater injection sites raises major concerns about the health and safety of nearby residents.”


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coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
October 10 2014 09:06 GMT
#26782
On October 10 2014 11:14 sc2isnotdying wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 16:23 coverpunch wrote:
WaPo's front page spread suggests yet another cover-up from the White House

As nearly two dozen Secret Service agents and members of the military were punished or fired following a 2012 prostitution scandal in Colombia, Obama administration officials repeatedly denied that anyone from the White House was involved.

But new details drawn from government documents and interviews show that senior White House aides were given information at the time suggesting that a prostitute was an overnight guest in the hotel room of a presidential advance-team member — yet that information was never thoroughly investigated or publicly acknowledged.

The Secret Service shared its findings twice in the weeks after the scandal with top White House officials, including then-White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler. Each time, she and other presidential aides conducted an interview with the advance-team member and concluded that he had done nothing wrong.

Meanwhile, the new details also show that a separate set of investigators in the inspector general’s office of the Department of Homeland Security — tasked by a Senate committee with digging more deeply into misconduct on the trip — found additional evidence from records and eyewitnesses who had accompanied the team member in Colombia.

The lead investigator later told Senate staffers that he felt pressure from his superiors in the office of Charles K. Edwards, who was then the acting inspector general, to withhold evidence — and that, in the heat of an election year, decisions were being made with political considerations in mind.

There are two problems here. First is the less questionable one, that a volunteer aide who is unmarried apparently hired a prostitute, something that was not pursued in the investigation although it makes the statement "no aides were involved" untrue. The other is the more serious one, that the Obama administration quashed the investigation and subsequently the story because it was an election year. It did distract from the fact that Obama failed to extract any concessions and basically said he had no interest in legalizing drugs.


I dunno, man. Maybe I'm just jaded, but this sounds like business as usual to me. Would it have made any sense to pursue an investigation of what was basically a non-incident, especially when it could have been politically damaging? Now, I'm not sure why it would have been politically damaging, but if I can tell you if a were a lawyer working for the administration and was made aware of the incident, my advice wouldn't have been any different. Would you really have had this guy subject to a thorough Secret Service investigation for hiring a prostitute? Would you really have advised the Secret Service to publicly acknowledge the incident? Squashing a non-story hardly seems scandalous to me. The White House is after all a political institution and we should expect them to make decisions with respect to potential political fallout. What administration would have handled this differently?

To a certain extent, I agree with you. Of course this was timed politically to embarrass the administration at an awkward time, along with expressing growing unrest from the media.

But to dismiss the whole thing is a bit odd. I mean, at what point do you start to wonder if the administration needs to clean up its act and level with everyone? You could make the typical response that Republicans aren't any better and it's pretty true, but is "we're slightly less bad than the GOP" really the best argument to prove Obama is a good leader?

There is some story here. Aides and Secret Service agents plying prostitutes on foreign summits indicates a lack of discipline and gives off an impression of exploiting local peoples (especially bad in Latin America where most countries already think the US is an exploitative bully), and these are people tasked with advising and protecting the president. Covering it up indicates that the administration cares so little that they think the real problem is making sure the public doesn't find out, not putting a halt to bad habits. It's not a huge question and maybe following the jurisdiction was fine, but fibbing about the aide seems like such an unnecessary and stupid lie. It has to make you wonder if they're fibbing about other things that they say are not problems.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 10 2014 16:30 GMT
#26783
secret service is not political though. it's not like there are democrat secret service vs republican.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12136 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 17:19:32
October 10 2014 17:16 GMT
#26784
On October 10 2014 08:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
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Want to attend college for free? It can happen if you learn German.

All German universities are now free to Americans and all other international students. The last German state to charge tuition at its universities struck down the fees this week.

Even before Germany abolished college tuition for all students, the price was a steal. Typically semester fees were around $630. What's more, German students receive many perks including discounts for food, clothing and events, as well as inexpensive or even free transportation.

In explaining why Germany made this move, Dorothee Stapelfeldt, a Hamburg senator, called tuition fees "unjust" and added that "they discourage young people who do not have a traditional academic family background from taking up study. It is a core task of politics to ensure that young women and men can study with a high quality standard free of charge in Germany."


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Or we could do the whole $1.2 trillion in student debt thing instead...


Not sure if that will keep being free or not. Sweden used to have the same deal (which I think was good). It was then stopped due to too many international students coming, studying for their 3-5 years and then leaving. (I still saw it as a good thing even with that being the case.) It still is free for a lot of nations to study in Sweden, not all though.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 10 2014 17:33 GMT
#26785
On October 11 2014 02:16 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 08:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Want to attend college for free? It can happen if you learn German.

All German universities are now free to Americans and all other international students. The last German state to charge tuition at its universities struck down the fees this week.

Even before Germany abolished college tuition for all students, the price was a steal. Typically semester fees were around $630. What's more, German students receive many perks including discounts for food, clothing and events, as well as inexpensive or even free transportation.

In explaining why Germany made this move, Dorothee Stapelfeldt, a Hamburg senator, called tuition fees "unjust" and added that "they discourage young people who do not have a traditional academic family background from taking up study. It is a core task of politics to ensure that young women and men can study with a high quality standard free of charge in Germany."


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Or we could do the whole $1.2 trillion in student debt thing instead...


Not sure if that will keep being free or not. Sweden used to have the same deal (which I think was good). It was then stopped due to too many international students coming, studying for their 3-5 years and then leaving. (I still saw it as a good thing even with that being the case.) It still is free for a lot of nations to study in Sweden, not all though.

Actually this isn't really "news". The only thing that has changed was that the last state has officially abandoned the already very low student fees. Overall the system works like this for a very long time now. We don't have fancy football teams and our students don't live in prestigious old buildings, but apart from that the system seems pretty sustainable. I actually don't understand how the American colleges can be so expensive. Do all the profits just go into the pockets of the administration?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 18:23:41
October 10 2014 18:18 GMT
#26786
On October 11 2014 02:33 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 02:16 Yurie wrote:
On October 10 2014 08:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Want to attend college for free? It can happen if you learn German.

All German universities are now free to Americans and all other international students. The last German state to charge tuition at its universities struck down the fees this week.

Even before Germany abolished college tuition for all students, the price was a steal. Typically semester fees were around $630. What's more, German students receive many perks including discounts for food, clothing and events, as well as inexpensive or even free transportation.

In explaining why Germany made this move, Dorothee Stapelfeldt, a Hamburg senator, called tuition fees "unjust" and added that "they discourage young people who do not have a traditional academic family background from taking up study. It is a core task of politics to ensure that young women and men can study with a high quality standard free of charge in Germany."


Source

Or we could do the whole $1.2 trillion in student debt thing instead...


Not sure if that will keep being free or not. Sweden used to have the same deal (which I think was good). It was then stopped due to too many international students coming, studying for their 3-5 years and then leaving. (I still saw it as a good thing even with that being the case.) It still is free for a lot of nations to study in Sweden, not all though.

Actually this isn't really "news". The only thing that has changed was that the last state has officially abandoned the already very low student fees. Overall the system works like this for a very long time now. We don't have fancy football teams and our students don't live in prestigious old buildings, but apart from that the system seems pretty sustainable. I actually don't understand how the American colleges can be so expensive. Do all the profits just go into the pockets of the administration?


Yes. University administrators and sports programs see the majority of the money. There was a picture out there recently that was a map of the U.S. showing the highest paid public officials of each state. Nearly every single state's highest paid public employee is a university sports coach making several million a year.

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1672861/infographic-whos-your-states-highest-paid-public-employee

Only 10 states pay someone who isn't a college coach more, and all 10 of those individuals are affiliated with university administration. A huge chunk of that money also goes into infrastructure for things not relating to academics (pretty buildings, more money for athletic programs, etc.).
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11945 Posts
October 10 2014 18:53 GMT
#26787
Yeah, the whole "college/sports club" crossover thing is really weird. Why not just have sports clubs that manage themselves, as a typical capitalist company thingy, and a university that actually teaches and researches, and concentrates only on that. I don't see why a college needs a built-in high level sports club.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10937 Posts
October 10 2014 19:04 GMT
#26788
The US system of having sportsclubs integrated to schools is actually really, really good... IF there wouldn't be that much money in it...
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12136 Posts
October 10 2014 19:45 GMT
#26789
Are the sports an income gaining activity or a loss for the schools though? Just because it is expensive doesn't mean it costs them money.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11945 Posts
October 10 2014 20:18 GMT
#26790
Depends on how they are managed probably. At least here in europe we have generally profitable sports clubs, or at least ones that go even. However, if the universities think it's a prestige thing to have a winning sports teams, then the money that goes into that might be more than what they take in on it. Especially if that is generally agreed upon between universities, then they could easily spend more money onto it just to get the prestige, and the competition would drive the prices above the amount of money the teams make.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 10 2014 20:30 GMT
#26791
Given the cost of American education these things are either very uneconomical or every college student gets his own personal unicorn
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 10 2014 20:37 GMT
#26792
The chart below is from a quick search, I believe those numbers are from the 2011-2012 season, listing the pre-season top-25 poll teams.

www.forbes.com

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 10 2014 20:40 GMT
#26793
If you were to look at the way in which many of those big state schools have their finances and policies malfeasantly mismanaged by state legislatures with little actual administrative experience, you can begin to see why they'd start getting creative with their revenue stream priorities.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24211 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 23:10:19
October 10 2014 20:47 GMT
#26794
On October 11 2014 05:37 Saryph wrote:
The chart below is from a quick search, I believe those numbers are from the 2011-2012 season, listing the pre-season top-25 poll teams.

www.forbes.com

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Football is pretty much carrying every sport a university offers. I don't think any of the other programs make much if any money. (Basketball does well during the tourny too)

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And plenty of teams don't make a profit also.

http://espn.go.com/ncaa/revenue <--- Entire sports programs summed up.

Alabama for example:

~$123,370,004 In reported athletic expenses (2008) ~$123,769,841 In athletic revenue (2008)

In 2011 the football program spent ~$36,900,000 and took in ~$82,000,000

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 11 2014 00:21 GMT
#26795
The latest Reason-Rupe poll finds nearly eight out of 10 Americans—77 percent—favor eliminating mandatory minimum prison sentences for nonviolent offenders so that judges instead have the ability to make sentencing decisions on a case-by-case basis. Only 17 percent of Americans oppose the idea. Support for eliminating mandatory minimum sentences has increased by 6 percentage points since Reason-Rupe asked this question in December 2013.

The federal government and a number of states have enacted mandatory minimum sentencing laws over the past few decades, most of which were applied to drug offenses. These laws require judges to sentence offenders convicted of certain crimes to a minimum term of imprisonment, regardless of whether or not the judge agrees the sentence is in the best interest of justice. These types of sentencing laws prohibit judges from evaluating the circumstances of individual cases and assigning the punishment they find most appropriate.

Instead, mandatory minimums transfer sentencing authority from judges to prosecutors, who pressure defendants to plead guilty in exchange for a shorter sentence, rather than go to trial and risk receiving a much longer mandatory minimum sentence if convicted. According to a report by the United States Sentencing Commission, an average of 98.7 percent of offenders who were convicted of a federal drug offense pleaded guilty in FY 2013 to avoid going to trial.

The poll found that Americans of all races and political parties favor eliminating mandatory minimum sentences, and that support among all groups has grown since the end of last year.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 11 2014 03:43 GMT
#26796
WASHINGTON, Oct 10 (Reuters) - The United States may make a major contribution in November to a fund to help poor countries prepare for and combat climate change, said the foreign minister of Peru, the country hosting a round of climate negotiations in December.

Peru Foreign Minister Gonzalo Gutierrez said U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told him on Oct. 8 that the world's second biggest greenhouse gas emitter behind China may announce a major injection of money into the Green Climate Fund (GCF) created by the United Nations.

"He (Kerry) says that the U.S. is considering seriously to make a significant announcement even before the Lima conference, probably next month," Gutierrez said in a speech at Johns Hopkins University's Washington conference on Thursday evening.

The State Department declined to comment.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 11 2014 18:20 GMT
#26797
Scanning a map of the world must give President Obama a sinking feeling as he contemplates the dismal state of troubled bilateral relationships his administration has sought to turn around. He would be smart to take a hard look at Cuba, where a major policy shift could yield a significant foreign policy success.

For the first time in more than 50 years, shifting politics in the United States and changing policies in Cuba make it politically feasible to re-establish formal diplomatic relations and dismantle the senseless embargo. The Castro regime has long blamed the embargo for its shortcomings, and has kept ordinary Cubans largely cut off from the world. Mr. Obama should seize this opportunity to end a long era of enmity and help a population that has suffered enormously since Washington ended diplomatic relations in 1961, two years after Fidel Castro assumed power.

In recent years, a devastated economy has forced Cuba to make reforms — a process that has gained urgency with the economic crisis in Venezuela, which gives Cuba heavily subsidized oil. Officials in Havana, fearing that Venezuela could cut its aid, have taken significant steps to liberalize and diversify the island’s tightly controlled economy.

They have begun allowing citizens to take private-sector jobs and own property. This spring, Cuba’s National Assembly passed a law to encourage foreign investment in the country. With Brazilian capital, Cuba is building a seaport, a major project that will be economically viable only if American sanctions are lifted. And in April, Cuban diplomats began negotiating a cooperation agreement with the European Union. They have shown up at the initial meetings prepared, eager and mindful that the Europeans will insist on greater reforms and freedoms.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 11 2014 19:02 GMT
#26798
I mean, is there really any reason not to unfreeze relations with Cuba now that there's no longer a threat of the Russians using them as a proxy pylon?
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 11 2014 19:06 GMT
#26799
On October 12 2014 04:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I mean, is there really any reason not to unfreeze relations with Cuba now that there's no longer a threat of the Russians using them as a proxy pylon?


Nope. I say open the borders and give tax incentives for American businesses to go there, but every one has to fly an American flag just to make the point. Carpet that motherfucker with McDonalds flying Old Glory.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 11 2014 19:08 GMT
#26800
the revenue numbers for college sports is a bit misleading because a lot of alum supporters are donating to support the football team. some schools have booster networks that spend millions for stadium/recruiting
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