US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1251

On August 26 2014 04:03 KwarK wrote:
For anyone interested in first hand US immigration experience I received provisional expedited right to work today. It took four months after filing for it and about six months of being in the US. I went through the quickest rush route possible as a GC can take years before finally being approved, depending upon the area and situation. This took various appointments and a guide to the system and how best to file it. So to immigrate legally under a family visa you'd need a middle class sponsor, about $3000 for forms and fees, six months living expenses, a job lined up once you get the right to work and familiarity with the system.

Fewer than one in four Americans have enough money in their savings account to cover at least six months of expenses, enough to help cushion the blow of a job loss, medical emergency or some other unexpected event, according to the survey of 1,000 adults. Meanwhile, 50% of those surveyed have less than a three-month cushion and 27% had no savings at all.

On August 26 2014 05:14 Wolfstan wrote:
Just assuring that this Kwark guy will be an asset rather than a burden. Countries being selective about immigration is a good thing. Deporting is a lot harder than importing, so it makes sense to have the 4 month+ screening for criminals, entitlement mooches, and assure they are not filling a job an american could do leading to wage depression.

On August 26 2014 05:29 Velr wrote:
I personally just think there should be other ways than basically frontloading tons of money to assure that only "assets" immigrate. I mean, if it stays like this you get uninformed people trying to immigrate bankrupting themselves in the process.

Thats not exactly what you want, at best your destroying the live of uninformed people and at worst your creating illegal aliens thanks to the immigration system.
Thats not exactly win/win...

On August 26 2014 06:09 GreenHorizons wrote:


I also agree with that. As segregated as America often feels it really is a global melting pot. Whether Americans like it or not we get influenced by cultures from all over the world (God knows most American's don't GO anywhere to experience culture).

Humans are worth a lot more than they can ever reflect on a balance sheet and it seems our immigration policy has a hard time dealing with that.

So immigrants have to know more about America and our systems and be far more economically stable than the majority of Americans actually are. I hadn't noticed but that's actually a really creative way to deal with pettifog the wealth disparity issue.

Immigrants (legal) will be our new middle class (In between the 1% and the rest of us). It won't be long before average Americans are outclassed by immigrants in every way (except skin color I suppose? Although white's are becoming a smaller and smaller group).

On August 26 2014 06:09 GreenHorizons wrote:


I also agree with that. As segregated as America often feels it really is a global melting pot. Whether Americans like it or not we get influenced by cultures from all over the world (God knows most American's don't GO anywhere to experience culture).

Humans are worth a lot more than they can ever reflect on a balance sheet and it seems our immigration policy has a hard time dealing with that.

So immigrants have to know more about America and our systems and be far more economically stable than the majority of Americans actually are. I hadn't noticed but that's actually a really creative way to deal with pettifog the wealth disparity issue.

Immigrants (legal) will be our new middle class (In between the 1% and the rest of us). It won't be long before average Americans are outclassed by immigrants in every way (except skin color I suppose? Although white's are becoming a smaller and smaller group).

On August 26 2014 06:23 Wolfstan wrote:
Certainly, their worth should be evaluated by their income statement and and cash flow statement too. Immigration's goal should be to make the country better economically,

On August 26 2014 06:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
haha yeah, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. not really that anymore?

On August 26 2014 06:53 Nyxisto wrote:
I'm not talking about taking anybody just for the sake of it, but I guess... you could at least try to keep the actual ideals intact? Taking all the smart Asians is already Canada's métier.

On August 26 2014 07:49 JonnyBNoHo wrote:

Most immigrants fall into the category of 'family reunification.' We could actually do a much better job attracting smart Asians if we really wanted to. Many come here for higher ed (US attracts lots of international students) and then struggle to either grab an H1-B visa or a permanent immigrant status.

On August 26 2014 08:05 GreenHorizons wrote:


Best I could tell there are leftovers of both from year to year. When there are less of one the slots go to the other. I don't think anyone would really argue that we couldn't allow more highly skilled immigrants (except maybe the most extreme of the tea party).

I don't think leaving American-Immigrant families intentionally fractured plays particularly well on either side, so reducing unification seems like political suicide also.

Immigration reform is desperately needed (totally independent of any border issues) for a multitude of reasons, the longer people on the right live in denial of that fact the worse off their party will be.

On August 26 2014 09:12 jellyjello wrote:


Agreed on the immigration reform. However, the border must be secured first, or at least show a concerted and genuine effort to securing the border.