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TOLEDO, OH (Toledo News Now) - The City of Toledo issued an urgent notice to residents of Toledo and Lucas County who receive water from the city of Toledo.
Customers are being asked to avoid drinking or boiling water.
Chemists testing water at Toledo's Collins Park Water Treatment Plant had two sample readings for microcystin.
The release of a highly anticipated Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA's interrogation tactics has been delayed due to "significant redactions" made by the Obama Administration, the committee chairwoman Sen. Dianne Fenistein (D-Calif.) announced on Friday.
The committee's report on the CIA's use of harsh interrogation and detention techniques in the post-9/11 era was expected to be released in the coming days, and has much of Washington on edge. U.S. officials have said that the report will conclude that the Bush-era tactics were unnecessary and accuse some CIA officials of misleading Congress about the program's effectiveness.
After receiving the redacted report from the White House, Feinstein announced that the wider release of the report would be delayed "until further notice," McClatchy reports.
On August 02 2014 00:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: If the Republicans take the Senate they still wouldn't be able to pass anything as there are two Republican parties, just look at the House.
Ridiculous. Are you saying the House hasn't passed anything since they took over, or is that according to what MSNBC says?
On August 02 2014 00:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: If the Republicans take the Senate they still wouldn't be able to pass anything as there are two Republican parties, just look at the House.
Ridiculous. Are you saying the House hasn't passed anything since they took over, or is that according to what MSNBC says?
No they haven't look at the graphs and numbers etc showing they haven't done anything. As Boehner can't allow open votes as he would quickly lose his Speakership and the caucus as a whole by Conservatives in the GOP. Gun control, Immigration could pass as it has Bipartisan support it just needs a vote but won't happen as it is being blocked. But Congress has been good at naming Post Offices etc.
On August 03 2014 04:44 farvacola wrote: I grew up in a suburb of Toledo. People back home are losing their goddamn minds lol.
That global warming ish?
I've no doubt that global warming is at play in this whole mess, but a severely underfunded public infrastructure combined with lax agricultural runoff regulations seem to be the chief culprit here. There is word that toxin levels were elevated days before the public was given proper warning, so heads will likely roll once this all shakes out. One can even see the bloom from space.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Thousands of federal, state and local firefighters were feverishly attacking at least six major wildfires in central and far northern California on Saturday, five of which grew rapidly overnight and prompted evacuations of homes, vacation cabins and recreation areas.
The scope and intensity of the blazes, three of them sparked by dry lightning as the state copes with a severe drought, was comparable to the fire activity California doesn't usually see until September, California Department of Forestry and Fire protection Dennis Mathisen said. The fires are burning as far south as the Sierra National Forest, about 70 miles from where another fire sparked evacuations in and around Yosemite National Park earlier in the week, and as far north as the state border, where a blaze that began in southern Oregon had consumed 5.5 square miles and threatened about two dozen homes in California's Siskiyou County.
"When we pop one or two fires at a time that's one thing, but when you get dry lightning strikes that pop up all over the place, that's when things become a challenge," Mathisen said. "If there is a bright side at all it's that these areas are sparsely populated and the types of residences many times are seasonal, cabins and so forth, so the numbers of people affected may not be as high as the number of structures threatened."
One of the most dangerous blazes was burning in Modoc County near the community of Day, where about 150 homes were under a mandatory evacuation order. It started with a lightning strike on Wednesday and had torched nearly 19.5 square miles of brush and timber by Saturday morning, up from 11 square miles a day earlier. It was only 15 percent contained.
If it's hard to parse what happens just skip to @2:00 and it becomes pretty clear.
"cussin in the street" is no longer covered under the first amendment for blacks in NC.
While describing the incident to the victims father the police threaten to take him to jail for cussing...
When I heard '...and I'm officer Wallace' I felt chills run down my spine... When I see stuff like this it makes me happy I'm in Washington.
I am not even touching on the 'resisting arrest' part, but don't conservatives care about first amendment rights too, I seem to remember them making a pretty big deal about them in a supreme court case not too long ago...?
For some reason I went to the comments on that youtube video
96% of blacks voted for a foreign born communist spawn of Islam. Ignorant as hell is voting for the nigger that sold your stupid asses in the first place.
So, to you 4% out there, I apologize. You aren't stupid monkeys destined for extinction. But 96% of the people around you are. So, peace be with you, and fuck the rest of you igtarded mind wiped primates.
If it's hard to parse what happens just skip to @2:00 and it becomes pretty clear.
"cussin in the street" is no longer covered under the first amendment for blacks in NC.
While describing the incident to the victims father the police threaten to take him to jail for cussing...
When I heard '...and I'm officer Wallace' I felt chills run down my spine... When I see stuff like this it makes me happy I'm in Washington.
I am not even touching on the 'resisting arrest' part, but don't conservatives care about first amendment rights too, I seem to remember them making a pretty big deal about them in a supreme court case not too long ago...?
No national-level politician really cares about rights. When they say something violates this or that right, its just ammo they use to get what they want. Senator A wants a thing to stop. He claims it violates right 1. Next year, Senator A wants something to continue, despite it violating right 1.
If it's hard to parse what happens just skip to @2:00 and it becomes pretty clear.
"cussin in the street" is no longer covered under the first amendment for blacks in NC.
While describing the incident to the victims father the police threaten to take him to jail for cussing...
When I heard '...and I'm officer Wallace' I felt chills run down my spine... When I see stuff like this it makes me happy I'm in Washington.
I am not even touching on the 'resisting arrest' part, but don't conservatives care about first amendment rights too, I seem to remember them making a pretty big deal about them in a supreme court case not too long ago...?
It's not a good idea to curse out a cop. It's also normal to have laws regarding 'disorderly conduct'.
Why should cursing at a cop be worse than cursing at a nurse or a teacher or to take someone who prolly gets a lot of it, a DMV clerk?
I mean yeah I understand that the reality is that a cop might be an asshole and somehow employ his ability to be an asshole and thus you're probably wise to not curse at a cop, but how come cops are such a vulnerable group of people that they need special protection from being cursed at, and how come you guys decided to give them that right? I assume cursing at people period (unless it's excessive to the degree where it's like, threatening or slandering or somehow harming your life outside the experience of being cursed at) is not a criminal offense?
On August 04 2014 07:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Why should cursing at a cop be worse than cursing at a nurse or a teacher or to take someone who prolly gets a lot of it, a DMV clerk?
I mean yeah I understand that the reality is that a cop might be an asshole and somehow employ his ability to be an asshole and thus you're probably wise to not curse at a cop, but how come cops are such a vulnerable group of people that they need special protection from being cursed at, and how come you guys decided to give them that right? I assume cursing at people period (unless it's excessive to the degree where it's like, threatening or slandering or somehow harming your life outside the experience of being cursed at) is not a criminal offense?
It's not, but the cop can arrest you for it, so don't.
On August 04 2014 07:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Why should cursing at a cop be worse than cursing at a nurse or a teacher or to take someone who prolly gets a lot of it, a DMV clerk?
I mean yeah I understand that the reality is that a cop might be an asshole and somehow employ his ability to be an asshole and thus you're probably wise to not curse at a cop, but how come cops are such a vulnerable group of people that they need special protection from being cursed at, and how come you guys decided to give them that right? I assume cursing at people period (unless it's excessive to the degree where it's like, threatening or slandering or somehow harming your life outside the experience of being cursed at) is not a criminal offense?
Probably because of their position as authority figures, being able to curse at them undermines that yadayada. Yes your point is valid but I guess that was the reasoning behind it when the law was made at the time.
I'm confused why you think there is bipartisan support for gun control and not the opposite. Southern democrats need the NRA to be with them or at the least not against them. No other republican would dare oppose the NRA either.
(not opening the can of worms that is gun control just interested to see if theres been a change in congress that I didn't see)
On August 04 2014 07:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Why should cursing at a cop be worse than cursing at a nurse or a teacher or to take someone who prolly gets a lot of it, a DMV clerk?
I mean yeah I understand that the reality is that a cop might be an asshole and somehow employ his ability to be an asshole and thus you're probably wise to not curse at a cop, but how come cops are such a vulnerable group of people that they need special protection from being cursed at, and how come you guys decided to give them that right? I assume cursing at people period (unless it's excessive to the degree where it's like, threatening or slandering or somehow harming your life outside the experience of being cursed at) is not a criminal offense?
Probably because of their position as authority figures, being able to curse at them undermines that yadayada. Yes your point is valid but I guess that was the reasoning behind it when the law was made at the time.
It's actually funny, we do have a similar law in Norway, although it's not cursing at a cop as much as insulting them. And I guess it's there for the same reason.
The cool thing is though, there are some regional exceptions. In the northern regions of Norway, known for their "colorful language", calling a policeman a "horse dick" or "wooden dick" was ruled permissible because it's considered part of their daily vernacular. :D
On August 04 2014 07:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Why should cursing at a cop be worse than cursing at a nurse or a teacher or to take someone who prolly gets a lot of it, a DMV clerk?
Well, cops deal with a LOT of harassment. They also regularly deal with people who may or may not have violent intent. They take aggressive activity very seriously as a result. It should also be noted the way that cursing out a nurse or DMV clerk will absolutely get you restrained or arrested. In hospitals, such people are held down by cops and tied to the bed, while in DMVs you will just go to jail.
That said, the video depicted action that was obviously excessive. Threatening a bystander with arrest for having said the word "fuck" in an attempt to summarize the actions is clearly unhelpful. The actual incident wasn't recorded, so I'm not sure what the rights and wrongs are.
It seems to me the rule in a civilized society should be that disorderly conduct charges should be limited to people actually acting disruptive. Swearing at cops (or any stranger in the street, but especially cops) should not be something you get to do with impunity after requests to stop. But saying "fuck" in a street should not get you arrested.
On August 04 2014 07:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Why should cursing at a cop be worse than cursing at a nurse or a teacher or to take someone who prolly gets a lot of it, a DMV clerk?
I mean yeah I understand that the reality is that a cop might be an asshole and somehow employ his ability to be an asshole and thus you're probably wise to not curse at a cop, but how come cops are such a vulnerable group of people that they need special protection from being cursed at, and how come you guys decided to give them that right? I assume cursing at people period (unless it's excessive to the degree where it's like, threatening or slandering or somehow harming your life outside the experience of being cursed at) is not a criminal offense?
Probably because of their position as authority figures, being able to curse at them undermines that yadayada. Yes your point is valid but I guess that was the reasoning behind it when the law was made at the time.
It's actually funny, we do have a similar law in Norway, although it's not cursing at a cop as much as insulting them. And I guess it's there for the same reason.
The cool thing is though, there are some regional exceptions. In the northern regions of Norway, known for their "colorful language", calling a policeman a "horse dick" or "wooden dick" was ruled permissible because it's considered part of their daily vernacular. :D
Same, in the Netherlands is actually very broad since its not specifically for cops but is 'insulting a civil servant'. So to go back to the original post. Yes in the Netherlands their is no real difference between insulting a cop and a DMV clerk :p
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