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Never heard of blackfoger before this, but the name "Blight" Gaming run by "blackfoger" couldn't get much shadier.
While I don't recommend mass e-mailing sponsors with negativity whenever things happen, I don't think it hurts to e-mail sponsors just to confirm if they are really sponsoring Blight Gaming or not. If they do sponsor the team, there is no reason they should hide the fact. (rather, they would love to acknowledge the sponsorship) Or, if they don't sponsor the team, there is no reason they should pretend they actually do, either. Also, assuming one wants to support Blight Gaming, he/she needs to know who actually sponsors the team. It seems "own3Dtv" and "DOLBY AXON" are claimed to be team's sponsors. Can someone who knows the situation/context better e-mail these sponsors to confirm the current/past sponsorship of Blight Gaming, preferably without negativity for now? While there is a high chance that Blight Gaming is fake, judging from circumstantial evidence like blackfoger's past, website quality, and his response in this thread, we need to have hard evidence to call it so with 100% confidence. Right now, he can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt. Also, don't all businesses have to register by the US law? Checking business registration could be another start. If everything checks out fine and Crane and others get deals as promised, then maybe people can start to pay some respect.
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On September 08 2012 03:32 Orek wrote:
Never heard of blackfoger before this, but the name "Blight" Gaming run by "blackfoger" couldn't get much shadier.
While I don't recommend mass e-mailing sponsors with negativity whenever things happen, I don't think it hurts to e-mail sponsors just to confirm if they are really sponsoring Blight Gaming or not. If they do sponsor the team, there is no reason they should hide the fact. (rather, they would love to acknowledge the sponsorship) Or, if they don't sponsor the team, there is no reason they should pretend they actually do, either. Also, assuming one wants to support Blight Gaming, he/she needs to know who actually sponsors the team. It seems "own3Dtv" and "DOLBY AXON" are claimed to be team's sponsors. Can someone who knows the situation/context better e-mail these sponsors to confirm the current/past sponsorship of Blight Gaming, preferably without negativity for now? While there is a high chance that Blight Gaming is fake, judging from circumstantial evidence like blackfoger's past, website quality, and his response in this thread, we need to have hard evidence to call it so with 100% confidence. Right now, he can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt. Also, don't all businesses have to register by the US law? Checking business registration could be another start. If everything checks out fine and Crane and others get deals as promised, then maybe people can start to pay some respect.
You must not have read the entire thread because most, if not all, of what you stated has already been addressed.
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On September 08 2012 03:49 zaxx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 03:32 Orek wrote:
Never heard of blackfoger before this, but the name "Blight" Gaming run by "blackfoger" couldn't get much shadier.
While I don't recommend mass e-mailing sponsors with negativity whenever things happen, I don't think it hurts to e-mail sponsors just to confirm if they are really sponsoring Blight Gaming or not. If they do sponsor the team, there is no reason they should hide the fact. (rather, they would love to acknowledge the sponsorship) Or, if they don't sponsor the team, there is no reason they should pretend they actually do, either. Also, assuming one wants to support Blight Gaming, he/she needs to know who actually sponsors the team. It seems "own3Dtv" and "DOLBY AXON" are claimed to be team's sponsors. Can someone who knows the situation/context better e-mail these sponsors to confirm the current/past sponsorship of Blight Gaming, preferably without negativity for now? While there is a high chance that Blight Gaming is fake, judging from circumstantial evidence like blackfoger's past, website quality, and his response in this thread, we need to have hard evidence to call it so with 100% confidence. Right now, he can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt. Also, don't all businesses have to register by the US law? Checking business registration could be another start. If everything checks out fine and Crane and others get deals as promised, then maybe people can start to pay some respect. You must not have read the entire thread because most, if not all, of what you stated has already been addressed.
hmm. from what I've read, it is not independently confirmed that own3Dtv and DOBY AXON sponsors Blight Gaming except for blackfoger's own words below:
On September 07 2012 10:07 Blackfoger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 10:04 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 10:00 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:50 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 09:47 Battleaxe wrote:On September 07 2012 09:40 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:35 cmgillett wrote:
they don't have sponsors, everything is fake. He lives in his mother's basement and has fabricated this entire thing. No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. Probably because based on numerous reports you do not actually deliver what you or your 'organization' promises, and if you do it appears to be much less then what was originally agreed upon. Just taking a quick peek at your website, your banner shows Dolby, Owned.tv, and Rj's Creative Studios as sponsors. If you look on your right side bar, only owned and dolby are listed. In addition, if we go to your sponsor page, you have WSAD keyboards listed, which is listed nowhere in the banner or on the right hand side sponsor area. Now, I understand sponsors pay for different things, however with this much inconsistency, and the fact that generally a dedicated sponsor page lists all of the organization's sponsors, I'm leaning toward your only current sponsorship being WSAD keyboards, keeping the banner because it looks cool and you don't have a graphics guy to change (or know how to change it yourself), along with keeping the right side sponsors of owned and dolby because they are big names. I hope this thread continues as it has until some solid evidence can be proved or we can see some verifiable evidence from one of your players stating the agreement they have with you is currently being met in full He mentioned earlier that he lost the WASD sponsorship because of the community emailing the sponsors with negativity. So, now I ask, which ones are real? Yes we did lose them and honestly a few of our players were very mad at the few that decided to email WASD. We had a great deal going with them and was very unjust. So I ask again..which of the sponsors on your webpage are REAL? We are working with Own3d.tv and Dolby. We are announcing a energy supplement company within two weeks here.
So, I thought it would be nice if someone can confirm it, which hasn't been done so far.
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On September 08 2012 04:02 Orek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 03:49 zaxx wrote:On September 08 2012 03:32 Orek wrote:
Never heard of blackfoger before this, but the name "Blight" Gaming run by "blackfoger" couldn't get much shadier.
While I don't recommend mass e-mailing sponsors with negativity whenever things happen, I don't think it hurts to e-mail sponsors just to confirm if they are really sponsoring Blight Gaming or not. If they do sponsor the team, there is no reason they should hide the fact. (rather, they would love to acknowledge the sponsorship) Or, if they don't sponsor the team, there is no reason they should pretend they actually do, either. Also, assuming one wants to support Blight Gaming, he/she needs to know who actually sponsors the team. It seems "own3Dtv" and "DOLBY AXON" are claimed to be team's sponsors. Can someone who knows the situation/context better e-mail these sponsors to confirm the current/past sponsorship of Blight Gaming, preferably without negativity for now? While there is a high chance that Blight Gaming is fake, judging from circumstantial evidence like blackfoger's past, website quality, and his response in this thread, we need to have hard evidence to call it so with 100% confidence. Right now, he can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt. Also, don't all businesses have to register by the US law? Checking business registration could be another start. If everything checks out fine and Crane and others get deals as promised, then maybe people can start to pay some respect. You must not have read the entire thread because most, if not all, of what you stated has already been addressed. hmm. from what I've read, it is not independently confirmed that own3Dtv and DOBY AXON sponsors Blight Gaming except for blackfoger's own words below: Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 10:07 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 10:04 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 10:00 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:50 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 09:47 Battleaxe wrote:On September 07 2012 09:40 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:35 cmgillett wrote:
they don't have sponsors, everything is fake. He lives in his mother's basement and has fabricated this entire thing. No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. Probably because based on numerous reports you do not actually deliver what you or your 'organization' promises, and if you do it appears to be much less then what was originally agreed upon. Just taking a quick peek at your website, your banner shows Dolby, Owned.tv, and Rj's Creative Studios as sponsors. If you look on your right side bar, only owned and dolby are listed. In addition, if we go to your sponsor page, you have WSAD keyboards listed, which is listed nowhere in the banner or on the right hand side sponsor area. Now, I understand sponsors pay for different things, however with this much inconsistency, and the fact that generally a dedicated sponsor page lists all of the organization's sponsors, I'm leaning toward your only current sponsorship being WSAD keyboards, keeping the banner because it looks cool and you don't have a graphics guy to change (or know how to change it yourself), along with keeping the right side sponsors of owned and dolby because they are big names. I hope this thread continues as it has until some solid evidence can be proved or we can see some verifiable evidence from one of your players stating the agreement they have with you is currently being met in full He mentioned earlier that he lost the WASD sponsorship because of the community emailing the sponsors with negativity. So, now I ask, which ones are real? Yes we did lose them and honestly a few of our players were very mad at the few that decided to email WASD. We had a great deal going with them and was very unjust. So I ask again..which of the sponsors on your webpage are REAL? We are working with Own3d.tv and Dolby. We are announcing a energy supplement company within two weeks here. So, I thought it would be nice if someone can confirm it, which hasn't been done so far.
Posted earlier by me:
Who are you kidding, your own3d sponsorship came with v8 eSports and hinged on that LoL team. You screwed over that organization you tried to merge with last year, too. own3d may have given you partner status to receive some ad revenue, but no one streams enough for you to receive any money. You may not even receive that since the LoL team left due to your lack of morality.
This was also confirmed last night by one of the v8 eSports co-owners who was also lied to last year. Blackfoger claimed to the v8 owners that Blight be sponsored by TteSports (to which I know is false because my organization CheckSix was sponsored by Tt), Thermaltake, and a few other notable sponsored while in negotiations to merge. Three weeks to a month following the merger, it was becoming clear to the ex-v8 entity that the claims Blackfoger had lured them in with were completely false. Blight also attempted to steal the website that v8 contributed to the merger once the union was disbanded (due to false claims and owed money to players). All of this is also confirmed by the co-owner of v8 who merged with Blight.
There is evidence he has lied about sponsors before to give people the impression that his "organization" is bigger and more successful than it really is. There is evidence and testimonials that the own3d sponsorship is fabricated. One can only assume that this Dolby (who by the way is a very stable and solidified corporation whose odds of dealing with the likes of Blight are very low) "sponsorship" is either fabricated or exaggerated to make it seem like Blight is something more than it really is. If you want to go e-mail Dolby and ask if they fund Blight, go right ahead. I, however, already know the tune to this song knowing the guy since 2010.
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On September 08 2012 04:16 zaxx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:02 Orek wrote:On September 08 2012 03:49 zaxx wrote:On September 08 2012 03:32 Orek wrote:
Never heard of blackfoger before this, but the name "Blight" Gaming run by "blackfoger" couldn't get much shadier.
While I don't recommend mass e-mailing sponsors with negativity whenever things happen, I don't think it hurts to e-mail sponsors just to confirm if they are really sponsoring Blight Gaming or not. If they do sponsor the team, there is no reason they should hide the fact. (rather, they would love to acknowledge the sponsorship) Or, if they don't sponsor the team, there is no reason they should pretend they actually do, either. Also, assuming one wants to support Blight Gaming, he/she needs to know who actually sponsors the team. It seems "own3Dtv" and "DOLBY AXON" are claimed to be team's sponsors. Can someone who knows the situation/context better e-mail these sponsors to confirm the current/past sponsorship of Blight Gaming, preferably without negativity for now? While there is a high chance that Blight Gaming is fake, judging from circumstantial evidence like blackfoger's past, website quality, and his response in this thread, we need to have hard evidence to call it so with 100% confidence. Right now, he can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt. Also, don't all businesses have to register by the US law? Checking business registration could be another start. If everything checks out fine and Crane and others get deals as promised, then maybe people can start to pay some respect. You must not have read the entire thread because most, if not all, of what you stated has already been addressed. hmm. from what I've read, it is not independently confirmed that own3Dtv and DOBY AXON sponsors Blight Gaming except for blackfoger's own words below: On September 07 2012 10:07 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 10:04 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 10:00 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:50 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 09:47 Battleaxe wrote:On September 07 2012 09:40 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:35 cmgillett wrote:
they don't have sponsors, everything is fake. He lives in his mother's basement and has fabricated this entire thing. No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. Probably because based on numerous reports you do not actually deliver what you or your 'organization' promises, and if you do it appears to be much less then what was originally agreed upon. Just taking a quick peek at your website, your banner shows Dolby, Owned.tv, and Rj's Creative Studios as sponsors. If you look on your right side bar, only owned and dolby are listed. In addition, if we go to your sponsor page, you have WSAD keyboards listed, which is listed nowhere in the banner or on the right hand side sponsor area. Now, I understand sponsors pay for different things, however with this much inconsistency, and the fact that generally a dedicated sponsor page lists all of the organization's sponsors, I'm leaning toward your only current sponsorship being WSAD keyboards, keeping the banner because it looks cool and you don't have a graphics guy to change (or know how to change it yourself), along with keeping the right side sponsors of owned and dolby because they are big names. I hope this thread continues as it has until some solid evidence can be proved or we can see some verifiable evidence from one of your players stating the agreement they have with you is currently being met in full He mentioned earlier that he lost the WASD sponsorship because of the community emailing the sponsors with negativity. So, now I ask, which ones are real? Yes we did lose them and honestly a few of our players were very mad at the few that decided to email WASD. We had a great deal going with them and was very unjust. So I ask again..which of the sponsors on your webpage are REAL? We are working with Own3d.tv and Dolby. We are announcing a energy supplement company within two weeks here. So, I thought it would be nice if someone can confirm it, which hasn't been done so far. Posted earlier by me: Who are you kidding, your own3d sponsorship came with v8 eSports and hinged on that LoL team. You screwed over that organization you tried to merge with last year, too. own3d may have given you partner status to receive some ad revenue, but no one streams enough for you to receive any money. You may not even receive that since the LoL team left due to your lack of morality.This was also confirmed last night by one of the v8 eSports co-owners who was also lied to last year. Blackfoger claimed to the v8 owners that Blight be sponsored by TteSports (to which I know is false because my organization CheckSix was sponsored by Tt), Thermaltake, and a few other notable sponsored while in negotiations to merge. Three weeks to a month following the merger, it was becoming clear to the ex-v8 entity that the claims Blackfoger had lured them in with were completely false. Blight also attempted to steal the website that v8 contributed to the merger once the union was disbanded (due to false claims and owed money to players). All of this is also confirmed by the co-owner of v8 who merged with Blight. There is evidence he has lied about sponsors before to give people the impression that his "organization" is bigger and more successful than it really is. There is evidence and testimonials that the own3d sponsorship is fabricated. One can only assume that this Dolby (who by the way is a very stable and solidified corporation whose odds of dealing with the likes of Blight are very low) "sponsorship" is either fabricated or exaggerated to make it seem like Blight is something more than it really is. If you want to go e-mail Dolby and ask if they fund Blight, go right ahead. I, however, already know the tune to this song knowing the guy since 2010.
Great work you are doing on this matter. It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty. Thanks for your input/insight, though. You are doing awesome job for this community!!
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On September 08 2012 04:29 Orek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:16 zaxx wrote:On September 08 2012 04:02 Orek wrote:On September 08 2012 03:49 zaxx wrote:On September 08 2012 03:32 Orek wrote:
Never heard of blackfoger before this, but the name "Blight" Gaming run by "blackfoger" couldn't get much shadier.
While I don't recommend mass e-mailing sponsors with negativity whenever things happen, I don't think it hurts to e-mail sponsors just to confirm if they are really sponsoring Blight Gaming or not. If they do sponsor the team, there is no reason they should hide the fact. (rather, they would love to acknowledge the sponsorship) Or, if they don't sponsor the team, there is no reason they should pretend they actually do, either. Also, assuming one wants to support Blight Gaming, he/she needs to know who actually sponsors the team. It seems "own3Dtv" and "DOLBY AXON" are claimed to be team's sponsors. Can someone who knows the situation/context better e-mail these sponsors to confirm the current/past sponsorship of Blight Gaming, preferably without negativity for now? While there is a high chance that Blight Gaming is fake, judging from circumstantial evidence like blackfoger's past, website quality, and his response in this thread, we need to have hard evidence to call it so with 100% confidence. Right now, he can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt. Also, don't all businesses have to register by the US law? Checking business registration could be another start. If everything checks out fine and Crane and others get deals as promised, then maybe people can start to pay some respect. You must not have read the entire thread because most, if not all, of what you stated has already been addressed. hmm. from what I've read, it is not independently confirmed that own3Dtv and DOBY AXON sponsors Blight Gaming except for blackfoger's own words below: On September 07 2012 10:07 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 10:04 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 10:00 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:50 zachMEISTER wrote:On September 07 2012 09:47 Battleaxe wrote:On September 07 2012 09:40 Blackfoger wrote:On September 07 2012 09:35 cmgillett wrote:
they don't have sponsors, everything is fake. He lives in his mother's basement and has fabricated this entire thing. No none of that is true in the least bit can you provide evidence. We are not currently paying off debts with sponsors I meant it as an example. If we shut down operations there would be no advertising income from adsense or donations which we do use to pay people back including the money from my pocket. Shutting down would hurt our current teams and sponsors such as when we did in the past. I meant it as please refrain from emailing our new sponsors being released as they are the one's supporting crane and our current team what purpose does it serve sabotaging the current deal the players are getting if we are going to be delivering to them. Probably because based on numerous reports you do not actually deliver what you or your 'organization' promises, and if you do it appears to be much less then what was originally agreed upon. Just taking a quick peek at your website, your banner shows Dolby, Owned.tv, and Rj's Creative Studios as sponsors. If you look on your right side bar, only owned and dolby are listed. In addition, if we go to your sponsor page, you have WSAD keyboards listed, which is listed nowhere in the banner or on the right hand side sponsor area. Now, I understand sponsors pay for different things, however with this much inconsistency, and the fact that generally a dedicated sponsor page lists all of the organization's sponsors, I'm leaning toward your only current sponsorship being WSAD keyboards, keeping the banner because it looks cool and you don't have a graphics guy to change (or know how to change it yourself), along with keeping the right side sponsors of owned and dolby because they are big names. I hope this thread continues as it has until some solid evidence can be proved or we can see some verifiable evidence from one of your players stating the agreement they have with you is currently being met in full He mentioned earlier that he lost the WASD sponsorship because of the community emailing the sponsors with negativity. So, now I ask, which ones are real? Yes we did lose them and honestly a few of our players were very mad at the few that decided to email WASD. We had a great deal going with them and was very unjust. So I ask again..which of the sponsors on your webpage are REAL? We are working with Own3d.tv and Dolby. We are announcing a energy supplement company within two weeks here. So, I thought it would be nice if someone can confirm it, which hasn't been done so far. Posted earlier by me: Who are you kidding, your own3d sponsorship came with v8 eSports and hinged on that LoL team. You screwed over that organization you tried to merge with last year, too. own3d may have given you partner status to receive some ad revenue, but no one streams enough for you to receive any money. You may not even receive that since the LoL team left due to your lack of morality.This was also confirmed last night by one of the v8 eSports co-owners who was also lied to last year. Blackfoger claimed to the v8 owners that Blight be sponsored by TteSports (to which I know is false because my organization CheckSix was sponsored by Tt), Thermaltake, and a few other notable sponsored while in negotiations to merge. Three weeks to a month following the merger, it was becoming clear to the ex-v8 entity that the claims Blackfoger had lured them in with were completely false. Blight also attempted to steal the website that v8 contributed to the merger once the union was disbanded (due to false claims and owed money to players). All of this is also confirmed by the co-owner of v8 who merged with Blight. There is evidence he has lied about sponsors before to give people the impression that his "organization" is bigger and more successful than it really is. There is evidence and testimonials that the own3d sponsorship is fabricated. One can only assume that this Dolby (who by the way is a very stable and solidified corporation whose odds of dealing with the likes of Blight are very low) "sponsorship" is either fabricated or exaggerated to make it seem like Blight is something more than it really is. If you want to go e-mail Dolby and ask if they fund Blight, go right ahead. I, however, already know the tune to this song knowing the guy since 2010. Great work you are doing on this matter. It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty. Thanks for your input/insight, though. You are doing awesome job for this community!!
I respect that view. Sadly, that's what got me a little over 2,000 USD within two weeks investing into Blight. This was November of 2010. Two weeks after giving him a little of 2,000 USD (I can't remember the exact amount), he requested upwards of 5,000 USD for "various projects" to which he couldn't expand on. Upon that request and the refusal of more information as to where my 2K went in 1-2 weeks and where another 5K was going to go... I became more weary of his tactics. Within two weeks after that, I notified Blackfoger that I didn't think Blight was for me. The next month, I joined another fellow Blackfoger had scammed out of 1,500 USD (he had to bail Blackfoger out of stiffing a team at a LAN) and joined CheckSix Gaming where I became part equity owner with that said person.
So, if you are looking for innocence in Blackfoger, I am sad to say that you will be hard pressed to find any whatsoever. Even after I realized he didn't have very strong character, I still clang to hope that he would change and I actually tried to be the catalyst for that change. However, after watching my efforts fail in vain and to see him continue his immoral decision making, I finally gave up. I realize you are referring to his "sponsorships" and not his track record with colleagues or the rest of the eSports community, but his history should shed some light as to the exact nature of his values and ethics. For a person who is trying to contribute to the growth of eSports as a whole (quantity within the community, quality of the community, and corporate involvement within the industry), I believe people such as Blackfoger will only hinder our efforts to legitimize eSports as a notable industry.
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Is there a way to email dolby and owned.tv? I'm sure they'll be "happy" to hear that they're being claimed as sponsors by some scamming little kid.
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On September 08 2012 04:29 Orek wrote:
It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty.
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That's not how real life (or the law) works..
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On September 08 2012 05:59 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 04:29 Orek wrote:
It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty. .. That's not how real life (or the law) works..
Depends on the country. I believe most country use the Presumption of innocence do they not ?
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On September 08 2012 05:53 hunts wrote:
Is there a way to email dolby and owned.tv? I'm sure they'll be "happy" to hear that they're being claimed as sponsors by some scamming little kid.
Check their sites under contacts i guess? 
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On September 08 2012 06:02 SpiZe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 05:59 zefreak wrote:On September 08 2012 04:29 Orek wrote:
It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty. .. That's not how real life (or the law) works.. Depends on the country. I believe most country use the Presumption of innocence do they not ?
What country requires a greater than 99% level of confidence in guilt before sentencing?
Circumstantial evidence is still evidence, and when the preponderance of evidence implies guilt you don't just sit around and wait for the 'absolute proof' that probably doesn't exist.
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Why didn't you show us this before?
The dolby one doesn't even mention you being sponsored by them, just the fact that you use their equipment. It seems more of an interview than a declartion of sponorship.
Lol those links are garbage. NEVERMIND
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wait wait wait, you linked to your own3d.tv channel as proof that they sponsor you?
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The Dolby tumblr link is just an interview from what I can tell. There's no mention of sponsorship. It's just them saying that they use Dolby stuff. And that it's good and stuff.
The own3d link is just their channel... I really don't know where they're going with this one.
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On September 08 2012 06:15 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 06:02 SpiZe wrote:On September 08 2012 05:59 zefreak wrote:On September 08 2012 04:29 Orek wrote:
It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty. .. That's not how real life (or the law) works.. Depends on the country. I believe most country use the Presumption of innocence do they not ? What country requires a greater than 99% level of confidence in guilt before sentencing? Circumstantial evidence is still evidence, and when the preponderance of evidence implies guilt you don't just sit around and wait for the 'absolute proof' that probably doesn't exist.
Adding to that, there is a reason it's called without reasonable doubt and not absolute certainty. There is always a chance the guy got brainwashed by invisible aliens, but that's unreasonable. If you gather enough evidence that makes it unreasonable to not consider him guilty, it doesn't matter that there isn't anything with 100% certainty that says he did it. Almost nothing can be proved with 100% certainty.
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On September 08 2012 06:07 Blackfoger wrote:
Our deals with both companies aren't large by any means. We will be announcing a new sponsor within 2 weeks here. Please refrain from emailing our new sponsor, we do not want to get dropped by them as we were by WASD. These companies support our players.
At first I wondered why there was no concern exhibited over the community emailing current "sponsors" Dolby or own3d.
Then I realized that there really wouldn't be any repercussions from making false claims of imaginary sponsorship agreements in order to inflate your amateur team's status. Just weird looks and maybe a 'cease-and-decist' letter to just stop using their name, image, or logo.
wp Blackoger.
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I've just read the 18 pages. I have reasons to believe that Blackfoger is delusional. I also believe that he may very well be mentally unstable.
I recommend some professional help before going any further in this thread. Until then, I think you should drop whatever you're trying to do and perhaps find a different hobby to invest your time and money in. If I may, I would suggest stamp collecting. It can be quite fun.
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On September 08 2012 06:15 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 06:02 SpiZe wrote:On September 08 2012 05:59 zefreak wrote:On September 08 2012 04:29 Orek wrote:
It's just that 99% circumstantial evidence is not enough to convince me, and I believe more in innocent until proven guilty. .. That's not how real life (or the law) works.. Depends on the country. I believe most country use the Presumption of innocence do they not ? What country requires a greater than 99% level of confidence in guilt before sentencing? Circumstantial evidence is still evidence, and when the preponderance of evidence implies guilt you don't just sit around and wait for the 'absolute proof' that probably doesn't exist.
Edit: misinterpreted.
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