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FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
August 11 2012 22:39 GMT
#21
On August 12 2012 07:38 Qikz wrote:
Didn't MLG Dallas only have issues due to the weather and stuff or was that another MLG?

i think that was raleigh which was influenced by this one hurricane, but still run quite smoothly
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 11 2012 22:39 GMT
#22
the downtime is killing esport
seriously 30m between every game??
IM & EG supporter
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 11 2012 22:39 GMT
#23
On August 12 2012 07:23 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 07:21 HeeroFX wrote:
As much as I hate to say it. I find myself thinking...I remember how epic GSTL was when they came to IPL4. And I thought maybe they would put on something at that level. Like this event doesn't feel that epic i guess is what I am getting at.


The GSTL Finals were produced by GOM. They just had Kevin do the intros.


Well the GOM Soundguy really didn´t like the casting, judging from the music volume.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
inermis
Profile Joined September 2010
353 Posts
August 11 2012 22:40 GMT
#24
1 game per hour... amazing stuff
play hard go pro
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 11 2012 22:40 GMT
#25
The observer seems worse than normal for this event, the audio is terrible, downtime is rapidly approaching MLG 2011 level. The one good thing is there are several other streams that provide more commentary/entertainment.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
August 11 2012 22:40 GMT
#26
This was a very frustrating event to watch, it is now 1-1 in the second series and I'm calling it a night after what must be 20 minutes of downtime by now.
dLG)Bananenbaum
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 11 2012 22:40 GMT
#27
Theres no reason to do not critism IPL Finals if you watched MLG Dallas ... there is always an event which is worse, but it should not mean that you shouldnt tell the producing team whats fucked up ...
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 11 2012 22:41 GMT
#28
People do love to criticize tournaments every chance they get.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Akta
Profile Joined February 2011
447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 22:44:21
August 11 2012 22:41 GMT
#29
On August 12 2012 07:07 trGKakarot wrote:
The worst part about this (imo) is for the sponsors (and future of eSports).

Why would I want to sponsor a tournament that is BARELY functioning and when it is "working" you are greeted with a "Powered by AMD" advertisement.

That's like saying, "Hey! Want your computer to be horrible? Try AMD!".

If I were a sponsor I would be forcing them to stop displaying such advertisements.
Been thinking about that as well. I can't even really imagine how things can go this wrong if they have an experienced team(a somewhat experienced crew would for example test the setup before the event and have basic backups/backup plans even if the budget is not that high. I assume they have an experienced crew so what happened?) but regardless of why it must be horrible for the sponsors. Poor AMD.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
August 11 2012 22:42 GMT
#30
Agree with virtually everything in the OP. A lackluster event with way too many technical difficulties and downtime. Events need to start inviting players to analyze games or entertain the time between games--even if they're not straight up casting.
ShakkaFL
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway647 Posts
August 11 2012 22:43 GMT
#31
you can't have 30min downtime between each game when you have a possible of 18 games to be played, it might not be bad as the viewers online but for the players and the crowd in the venue it's awful.
Terran 24/7
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 22:49:33
August 11 2012 22:44 GMT
#32
On August 12 2012 07:40 Whatson wrote:
The observer seems worse than normal for this event, the audio is terrible, downtime is rapidly approaching MLG 2011 level. The one good thing is there are several other streams that provide more commentary/entertainment.


Well to be fair at IPL4 ST_Legend was doing the observing and MLG now has a really good observer in Adebisi.
Should just invest in TheGDStudio for production.

And someone really needs to teach some casters how to fill time properly. Because making the crowd cheer for random stuff the casters shout out is just bad. Happened at IPL4 and everyone really didnt like it. Tell some stories about the players or something to make it interesting through the breaks, get other pro's or a set of casters to do some analysis of games to fill that space or something like that. Especially with this much down time you could have an analysis desk go through a replay of the previous game and such. Not saying you need to go out and buy a touch screen TV.

This dead space is just killing it from a spectator's perspective. Could have had TSL4 games played inbetween the games from how long the breaks are T_T
stardin
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel88 Posts
August 11 2012 22:44 GMT
#33
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
August 11 2012 22:46 GMT
#34
On August 12 2012 07:40 Laurens wrote:
This was a very frustrating event to watch, it is now 1-1 in the second series and I'm calling it a night after what must be 20 minutes of downtime by now.

most times I would tell people like you to man up its sc2 pull an all nighter!!!! but this time it's just to much delays and problems
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
August 11 2012 22:48 GMT
#35
community ripped NASL a new one, this here is even worse.

i'm a huge IPL fan, and maybe they spoiled us but this just doesn't feel like IGN production that we've seen so far.

literally, worse major tournament this year. these types of problems are so 2011.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
August 11 2012 22:48 GMT
#36
I have been very disappointed in the quality overall. I understand that it is a big tournament and everything, but if you are gonna give teams time for practice games you really need to be prepared with additional material, not this 1 game an hour crap.
Write your own song!
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 22:50:00
August 11 2012 22:49 GMT
#37
Haven't watched any IPL TAC3 because I just don't like the casters and whatnot. However, considering how epic these finals are, I thought I'd tune in after just reading the preview. And then... 20 minutes of downtime and I don't even want to watch now. Oh and now the stream isn't even working for me now that the downtime is over.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
August 11 2012 22:49 GMT
#38
i thought IPL would know how to host an event from the great IPL3/4
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
AdmrlAwesome
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 22:57:51
August 11 2012 22:52 GMT
#39
I got no problems with casters. Technical issues with the stream are sad but bearable to me.
The environment isnt the best for an Sc2-event due to obvious LoL-layout, missing booths etc., but yet this still doesnt really bother my entertainment. The only thing that totally stands out to me are those gigantic breaks between the games.
Someone might explain to me why they need 30+ minutes for next player to be ready. That are literally two meters between their bench and the hotseat. Add 5 minutes of setting up keyboards and maybe another 5 for introduction and set up the lobby. These breaks kill all the flow.
Nitmal blaue lichd das dan wird bodnkalaschnikof chance gegen Magrins! Einfach schißt die boden an bis tod und dan einschlagt die fenster von prodoss haus und schändn die probe! -- Ferrix
eror11
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia5 Posts
August 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#40
No issues with casters?

Doa: Zenio took a lot of economic damage.
Cp opens drones lost (only 2 drones lost)
Doa: yeah, but well he lost a lot of units
CP opens units lost (zenio lost 2k minerals, oponent 3k)
Doa: Huh well that's definitely a lot of larva lost, he can't possibly have any larva to drone up
CP opens unit count (zenio at 70 drones, oponent at 50 probes)
errrrrrr
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