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LeisureFap
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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QxGRockEr
United States191 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:05 ROOTFayth wrote: seems to me desrow went and asked for more money just because some retards told him he deserved more, hopefully desrow is gonna fix this, send the money back and make public apologies i agree completely. Maybe even throw in a 100 for all this drama lol. | ||
opterown
Australia54785 Posts
nothing bad on them, but it's been a while since i saw so many with <5 posts in one thread | ||
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LeisureFap
10 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:05 ROOTFayth wrote: seems to me desrow went and asked for more money just because some retards told him he deserved more, hopefully desrow is gonna fix this, send the money back and make public apologies I think it's completely dependent on whether or not desrow was made aware of the donation box before the agreed upon rate. If not, then MB is totally in the wrong. That'd be like JP paying for a player to come out and do a face to face interview for "Real Talk" and then putting a "Cost Donations" box up after the fact. That player was just as much a part of the show as JP and he would be completely in the wrong for seeking another source of revenue using that players name. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:11 opterown wrote: haha it's pretty funny at all the low-post counters in here :D nothing bad on them, but it's been a while since i saw so many with <5 posts in one thread its funny cause there were a ton of low post count peeps that always showed up in desrow threads for show matches and stuff a few months back, pro desrow, while now they are against him. no im not saying they are the same peolpe, just pointing out a funny observation. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On August 11 2012 15:58 ROOTFayth wrote: so it wasn't to get desrow to MLG as well? thought it was both of them Negative, I posted to this effect, with a copy of my Chipin receipt to support. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:14 Dosey wrote: I think it's completely dependent on whether or not desrow was made aware of the donation box before the agreed upon rate. If not, then MB is totally in the wrong. That'd be like JP paying for a player to come out and do a face to face interview for "Real Talk" and then putting a "Cost Donations" box up after the fact. That player was just as much a part of the show as JP and he would be completely in the wrong for seeking another source of revenue using that players name. if anything MB just mis worded his shit leading to some people donating for desrow when they were actually donating to MB, so MB shud just give back the donations that were destined to desrow | ||
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LeisureFap
10 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Not quite sure whats happening, it says hell learn from the current team, but wont that take away valuable practice time? | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:12 LeisureFap wrote: If I understood correctly all this business of the extra $300 occured about a week after the bootcamp ended, which was a month+ ago. So he's had this money for over a month, and then still goes public. Lol. That name is pretty ace. | ||
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Splinta
United States36 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
The SC2 community is really bad when it comes to trying to grow the industry, as so many of them are spolit little kids that think they know best. When lol first came out it was completely shit on and hated by this community, even though it was just increasing the esport community. This is a massive step up for maximusblack. He already puts alot into the community with vods and such, and now if hes getting paid more which i assume he is, hes only gonna put more back in. Who cares if hes not the best player? all the kids who are higher ranked them him and beat him on ladder are just jealous about it, and cant seem to get over themselves to wish him luck or whatever. Also, all the people saying that they 'watch him recently' and his play hasnt improved might as welll leave now. Desrow isnt the best player, but his coaching of Jeff has made such a difference. The people who say it hasnt obviously havent wathced him stream much, if at all. Gratz jeff, with all the work you put in you definitely deserve this. Best of luck Bouse | ||
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crackcc
114 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:05 ROOTFayth wrote: seems to me desrow went and asked for more money just because some retards told him he deserved more, hopefully desrow is gonna fix this, send the money back and make public apologies Yeah man I think a lot of people are missing that part. It's the "friends" who apparently got in his head & made him think he was getting ripped off. Before that he was fine with everything, & why shouldn't he have been. He made a deal, he did his job poorly & still got paid in full + extra + publicity. Then his friends get into his heaad (maybe jealous of him or MB) & make him go back to MB & ask for more. The worst part (imo) is that he went to the CSN thing & tried to get MB into trouble. That's just a bullshit thing to do whichever ay you look at it. Even if Desrow would be in the right about getting 50/50, there is no excuse for going to someones employer & trying to get them in trouble. That's like if someone sold you a pc, then a couple of weeks later (after talking to friends) comes back & says you owe him more money, & when you don't pay he tries to get you fired from your job. Desrow not gonna be making any fans from this bit of drama. I doubt it makes him more attractive to teams/teammates. Anyways, love your stream man! Keep it up  | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:14 Dosey wrote: I think it's completely dependent on whether or not desrow was made aware of the donation box before the agreed upon rate. If not, then MB is totally in the wrong. That'd be like JP paying for a player to come out and do a face to face interview for "Real Talk" and then putting a "Cost Donations" box up after the fact. That player was just as much a part of the show as JP and he would be completely in the wrong for seeking another source of revenue using that players name. What? I'm not seeing what is immoral about that. Isn't that how businesses operate? And its not like Maximus Black was using DesRow's fame to make money. This is DesRow we are talking about after all, if anything DesRow got more popular after doing the bootcamp. And if you aren't aware, MB regularly gets donations (every day, in fact. People sometimes donate 50 bucks just to get a song played on stream. The only strange thing about this whole event is that DesRow feels that he deserves more. (The fact that DesRow is including the money made from advertisements in his calculations, as if he didn't know that MB would be streaming it ahead of time, makes him look even shadier. Really disappointing, and I hope he apologizes and, more importantly, learns a lesson about contracts and business.) | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:18 LeisureFap wrote: Dosey, the wording on the chip in wasn't confusing to anyone with a elementary school education. And even then, desrow had a week to comment on it. The donation paid off desrow's trip. That's part of his pay, because he didnt spendm oney to travel. The rest went to maximusblack for mlg. It was clearly stated and written. Desrow commented on multiple donations on stream, but didn't make any hint torwads him thinking he should get some, and he didn't have a problem until he "talked with friends" which is common for him either deciding he wants more or actually getting duped by someone who didn't understand the situation. Obviously we have to wait on desrow's response before we can make any further assumptions, but so far there is nothing that gives desrow any legitimacy to what he claimed. If Des was aware of the donations before the agreed upon rate, then he has no claim to anything and owes MB an apology. However, if MB snuck it in afterwards, then he should owe des a certain percentage. Wording doesn't really matter, he was using Desrows name and presence in order to get donations. edit: confusing wording o_O | ||
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KJ-KillJoy
Denmark4 Posts
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LeisureFap
10 Posts
The donation box was clearly worded, desrow's pay and promises were fulfilled, and maximus earned money from the stream he hosted. Desrow wasn't hosting the stream, maximusblack was. Desrow put his information in to the chat every 2 minutes, so if anyone wanted to donate specifically to him they could. | ||
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beesinyoface
2450 Posts
On August 11 2012 16:22 ThatGuy89 wrote: this is crazy how many jealous people there are in here. The SC2 community is really bad when it comes to trying to grow the industry, as so many of them are spolit little kids that think they know best. When lol first came out it was completely shit on and hated by this community, even though it was just increasing the esport community. This is a massive step up for maximusblack. He already puts alot into the community with vods and such, and now if hes getting paid more which i assume he is, hes only gonna put more back in. Who cares if hes not the best player? all the kids who are higher ranked them him and beat him on ladder are just jealous about it, and cant seem to get over themselves to wish him luck or whatever. Also, all the people saying that they 'watch him recently' and his play hasnt improved might as welll leave now. Desrow isnt the best player, but his coaching of Jeff has made such a difference. The people who say it hasnt obviously havent wathced him stream much, if at all. Gratz jeff, with all the work you put in you definitely deserve this. Best of luck Bouse I watched his stream for what, maybe an hour? hour and a half? His play was the same shit it was before. Also why would people be jealous? Is it because of the money? I can safely assume there are a lot of people here who make more money than he does. I can also safely assume there are a lot of people here who could beat MB in a showmatch. Are we supposed to be jealous of his fanbase or something? I'm missing the connection. | ||
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