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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 13 2012 18:35 GMT
#641
On July 14 2012 03:29 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 02:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
I would argue that there really should be a regame in this case. In my opinion, it was pretty BM of Byun to take advantage of what was clearly a mistake in the map to perform a ridiculous cheese. It would be like in a NFL game if the uprights for one side were only half as wide as the others or something. /pitchforks

What do you expect of a guy who was match-fixing?



What?

Accusing byun of matchfixing?

LOLOLOLOLOL no.
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
July 13 2012 18:36 GMT
#642
Losing more and more respect for ByuN.

First, the cheating scandal.

And now, he realizes that he can do the bunker block....mysteriously.....and doesn't say ANYTHING, takes advantage of it, and Nestea loses.



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ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
July 13 2012 18:38 GMT
#643
On July 14 2012 03:36 Nuclease wrote:
Losing more and more respect for ByuN.

First, the cheating scandal.

And now, he realizes that he can do the bunker block....mysteriously.....and doesn't say ANYTHING, takes advantage of it, and Nestea loses.




take that garbage somewhere else

there were many 'faults' here, none were byuns
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 13 2012 18:38 GMT
#644
On July 14 2012 03:36 Nuclease wrote:
Losing more and more respect for ByuN.

First, the cheating scandal.

And now, he realizes that he can do the bunker block....mysteriously.....and doesn't say ANYTHING, takes advantage of it, and Nestea loses.




Bunker block is a legit strategy on a map without a neutral depot. You ever play on the ladder? Why are people acting like this strategy is instant win? The depot should honestly be removed from all maps and zergs should support the removal if they have any self respect. ZERGS DONT NEED A NEUTRAL DEPOT.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 13 2012 18:42 GMT
#645
On July 14 2012 03:36 Nuclease wrote:
Losing more and more respect for ByuN.

First, the cheating scandal.

And now, he realizes that he can do the bunker block....mysteriously.....and doesn't say ANYTHING, takes advantage of it, and Nestea loses.


Wow. This sort of posting is disgusting. Byun didn't do anything wrong.
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
July 13 2012 18:44 GMT
#646
I knew there had to be something strange for Nestea to go down in such spectacular fashion...
"more gg, more skill"
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
July 13 2012 18:45 GMT
#647
On July 14 2012 03:44 ravemir wrote:
I knew there had to be something strange for Nestea to go down in such spectacular fashion...


him playing bad, which i guess is strange, cause thats why he lost in such spectacular fashion
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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 13 2012 18:46 GMT
#648
Lots of respect for NesTea for taking the loss!
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 13 2012 18:46 GMT
#649
On July 14 2012 03:44 ravemir wrote:
I knew there had to be something strange for Nestea to go down in such spectacular fashion...

Nestea got brutalized in every game. A multiple time GSL winner doesn't get titled into that level of play by a mere Bunker rush.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#650
On July 14 2012 03:46 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 03:44 ravemir wrote:
I knew there had to be something strange for Nestea to go down in such spectacular fashion...

Nestea got brutalized in every game. A multiple time GSL winner doesn't get titled into that level of play by a mere Bunker rush.


Seriously, did we all forget his series vs sc? it started off with a bunker rush on metal, which nestea handled terribly. He still won the series and the tournament in the end. People saying that the bunker rush messed him up mentally are insulting his years of experience.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#651
Seriously nestea looked like an ameteur. Sorry but, the best zergs in the world don't lose to a scouted 2 rax, bunker block or not.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
July 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#652
That stinks. I think it's awesome of Nestea and IM to not ask for a rematch and accept the mistake.
They accepted the loses and the mistake. Others might have made a big stink out of it.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#653
On July 14 2012 03:36 Nuclease wrote:
Losing more and more respect for ByuN.

First, the cheating scandal.

And now, he realizes that he can do the bunker block....mysteriously.....and doesn't say ANYTHING, takes advantage of it, and Nestea loses.


ur a great fan...
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
July 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#654
I feel like alot of people are downplaying how important the first set in any match is. It gives the winner so much mental momentum going into the next game.

I don't have the statistics in front of me to back it up, but in any best of x series I would be willing to bet the winner of the first game is more often then not the series winner.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 19:07:30
July 13 2012 19:07 GMT
#655
On July 14 2012 00:02 iGn1t3 wrote:
I don't think it is fair. Once Terran took the ramp, the Zerg is pretty much lost half of the game (unless Zerg did a mighty quick boss walk and bust the bunker before the marine arrives. Should there be a way to stop the game halfway?

Not really. With the Queen's new range, Nestea could have just made sure the Bunker never got up by killing the SCV with a queen at the top of the ramp.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 13 2012 19:10 GMT
#656
On July 14 2012 04:06 Doomwish wrote:
I feel like alot of people are downplaying how important the first set in any match is. It gives the winner so much mental momentum going into the next game.

I don't have the statistics in front of me to back it up, but in any best of x series I would be willing to bet the winner of the first game is more often then not the series winner.

Those statistics have less to do with psychology and more to do with, well, probabilities of someone with a high winrate winning a match when they only need to win 1 game and their opponent needs to win 2.
Icarox
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden78 Posts
July 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#657
On July 14 2012 04:07 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 00:02 iGn1t3 wrote:
I don't think it is fair. Once Terran took the ramp, the Zerg is pretty much lost half of the game (unless Zerg did a mighty quick boss walk and bust the bunker before the marine arrives. Should there be a way to stop the game halfway?

Not really. With the Queen's new range, Nestea could have just made sure the Bunker never got up by killing the SCV with a queen at the top of the ramp.


Bad scenario, he kills the SCV and is stuck with slowly getting the bunkers down. And is way behind from the start. The terran player can go for an easy natural and prepare for a 2base push or even better, a 2base allin and straight up beat the zerg very easily.

Worst case scenario, the SCV lives and Nestea wont even be able to push down his ramp.

Baaaahhhh! If theres no neutral supply depot, the terran can literally just autowin the map!
I can understand that Blizzard doesnt understand its full purpose and dont have it on each and every map on the ladder map pool. But GSL is way more involved in the metagame than them.

I am not saying that Nesta would've won. But those supply depots are specifically there so that terran cant win that easily by cheesing! =/
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
July 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#658
On July 14 2012 04:06 Doomwish wrote:
I feel like alot of people are downplaying how important the first set in any match is. It gives the winner so much mental momentum going into the next game.

I don't have the statistics in front of me to back it up, but in any best of x series I would be willing to bet the winner of the first game is more often then not the series winner.


News flash: Winning a game has a direct correlation to winning a series.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
July 13 2012 19:15 GMT
#659
On July 14 2012 04:06 Doomwish wrote:
I feel like alot of people are downplaying how important the first set in any match is. It gives the winner so much mental momentum going into the next game.

I don't have the statistics in front of me to back it up, but in any best of x series I would be willing to bet the winner of the first game is more often then not the series winner.


If both players have a 50% chance of winning any game the player who wins the 1st game will win the series 75% of the time.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 19:16:55
July 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#660
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