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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
July 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#161
Stop with the stupid analogies and stop with the stupid retorts. Also, stop with the stupid overgeneralizations.

Ugh, I honestly don't see why this thread was reopened.
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brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 12:09:15
July 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#162
Imo BW does the RTS thing better than any other game, so if i wanna play a straight up RTS might as well not spend time on other games. Or if i want a team based relaxed game, i can shoot up LoL and have a blast. SC2 doesnt fit in that thought process frankly.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 09 2012 12:09 GMT
#163
On July 09 2012 20:41 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:35 Paljas wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:13 Sawamura wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote:
You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.

BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.

But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.


This post is full of stupid....
People that loves BW does not have to love SC2....
Terrible analogy.
Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same.
Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...



Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said


You can't even spell understand come back when you can type properly .

nice argument


Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote:
You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.

BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.

But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.


This post is full of stupid....
People that loves BW does not have to love SC2....
Terrible analogy.
Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same.
Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...



Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said


He use the word understand 3 times and yet it doesn't comes out coherent at all and it takes a genius to come to conclusion that a poster is stubborn just from a few words he posted and yeah . So yeah bring more arguments and while you do that take your time to read it again and again if it sounds stupid don't post it.


It's perfectly coherent if you can actually understand english. And the analogy is pretty good if I may add.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 09 2012 12:10 GMT
#164
Any of you play both BW and SC2 simultaniously? Its hard as hell. I dunno why the BW pros put up with that. I dont see how they could possibly play at their best at either game.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 09 2012 12:13 GMT
#165
On July 09 2012 21:09 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:41 Sawamura wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:35 Paljas wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:13 Sawamura wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote:
You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.

BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.

But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.


This post is full of stupid....
People that loves BW does not have to love SC2....
Terrible analogy.
Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same.
Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...



Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said


You can't even spell understand come back when you can type properly .

nice argument


On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote:
You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.

BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.

But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.


This post is full of stupid....
People that loves BW does not have to love SC2....
Terrible analogy.
Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same.
Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...



Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said


He use the word understand 3 times and yet it doesn't comes out coherent at all and it takes a genius to come to conclusion that a poster is stubborn just from a few words he posted and yeah . So yeah bring more arguments and while you do that take your time to read it again and again if it sounds stupid don't post it.


It's perfectly coherent if you can actually understand english. And the analogy is pretty good if I may add.


So you agree that people who don't want to move to sc2 are stubborn just because they don't like it ? . I don't see authors or writers even repeat them selves understand and understand understand for the god knows umpteen times . Pretty good english working at hand here though.
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Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 12:18:41
July 09 2012 12:14 GMT
#166
On July 09 2012 21:10 DyEnasTy wrote:
Any of you play both BW and SC2 simultaniously? Its hard as hell. I dunno why the BW pros put up with that. I dont see how they could possibly play at their best at either game.


I did, and it is hard. Hotkeys are different, the feel is different and many other things are different. For progamers, the pressure to perform well in SC2 is definitely a huge burden.

Thread has run its course though...
The OP is an idiot(makes such a thread with a so called "joke" at the end[with a sad true backstory T_T]), probably laughing now seeing the replies.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 09 2012 12:16 GMT
#167
I agree with the sentiment that there are people who have decided in their head that sc2 is worse and will not hear any other argument against their most favourite game, no matter how good the argument may be.


P.S. Authors don't argue bullshit on game forums either.
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
July 09 2012 12:17 GMT
#168
you can insist bw, no one stops you
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Kassploj
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden67 Posts
July 09 2012 12:29 GMT
#169
On July 09 2012 21:16 greggy wrote:
I agree with the sentiment that there are people who have decided in their head that sc2 is worse and will not hear any other argument against their most favourite game, no matter how good the argument may be.


P.S. Authors don't argue bullshit on game forums either.

To be honest it's not arguments why it's better we need, it's a better game. I believe the wide majority of BW players and fans on Teamliquid have at some point tried picking SC2 up, but simply not enjoyed it. I know this was the case for me, and you may claim that it's just a matter of a few new rules with the new era but then you have obviously never been very immersed in Brood War.
league
Profile Joined January 2012
Peru58 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 12:33:40
July 09 2012 12:29 GMT
#170
On July 09 2012 21:13 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 21:09 greggy wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:41 Sawamura wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:35 Paljas wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:13 Sawamura wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote:
You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.

BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.

But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.


This post is full of stupid....
People that loves BW does not have to love SC2....
Terrible analogy.
Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same.
Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...



Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said


You can't even spell understand come back when you can type properly .

nice argument


On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote:
You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.

BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.

But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.


This post is full of stupid....
People that loves BW does not have to love SC2....
Terrible analogy.
Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same.
Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...



Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said


He use the word understand 3 times and yet it doesn't comes out coherent at all and it takes a genius to come to conclusion that a poster is stubborn just from a few words he posted and yeah . So yeah bring more arguments and while you do that take your time to read it again and again if it sounds stupid don't post it.


It's perfectly coherent if you can actually understand english. And the analogy is pretty good if I may add.


So you agree that people who don't want to move to sc2 are stubborn just because they don't like it ? . I don't see authors or writers even repeat them selves understand and understand understand for the god knows umpteen times . Pretty good english working at hand here though.


If you care to actually read, he said that it should be added as an option. He even said that it's obvious that not all BW fans are stubborn, as such, should only be an option, in his last sentence. Oh, and since you were picking on his "undestand" spelling, "them selves" should be one word.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 09 2012 12:52 GMT
#171
On July 09 2012 21:29 Kassploj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 21:16 greggy wrote:
I agree with the sentiment that there are people who have decided in their head that sc2 is worse and will not hear any other argument against their most favourite game, no matter how good the argument may be.


P.S. Authors don't argue bullshit on game forums either.

To be honest it's not arguments why it's better we need, it's a better game. I believe the wide majority of BW players and fans on Teamliquid have at some point tried picking SC2 up, but simply not enjoyed it. I know this was the case for me, and you may claim that it's just a matter of a few new rules with the new era but then you have obviously never been very immersed in Brood War.

Well fucking duh. We always need a better game.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 09 2012 12:59 GMT
#172
On July 08 2012 23:38 Dataleif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 23:34 vOdToasT wrote:
I think it's because while DotA is not as amazing as Brood War, it is in a different genre of games than Brood War. This makes it easier to transition to. StarCraft 2 is in the same genre as Brood War, but much worse.

It's easier to change to something that is different altogether, than something that is just inferior. SC2 is just a shitty RTS, an inferior version of SC1, but DotA is something different. When you're used to playing a good RTS, switching to a mediocre one is harder than switching to a DotA game.

nailed it


wow, BW players are acutally the most arrogant guys ever.
i once had huge respect for BW players cause the game looked and is fucking hard, then i found out how most of the community thinks and how mediocre the best BW foreigers are in a new game compared to old war3 players. pretty sad.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 09 2012 13:14 GMT
#173
On July 09 2012 21:59 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 23:38 Dataleif wrote:
On July 08 2012 23:34 vOdToasT wrote:
I think it's because while DotA is not as amazing as Brood War, it is in a different genre of games than Brood War. This makes it easier to transition to. StarCraft 2 is in the same genre as Brood War, but much worse.

It's easier to change to something that is different altogether, than something that is just inferior. SC2 is just a shitty RTS, an inferior version of SC1, but DotA is something different. When you're used to playing a good RTS, switching to a mediocre one is harder than switching to a DotA game.

nailed it


wow, BW players are acutally the most arrogant guys ever.
i once had huge respect for BW players cause the game looked and is fucking hard, then i found out how most of the community thinks and how mediocre the best BW foreigers are in a new game compared to old war3 players. pretty sad.

If you really think that's arrogant, we'll do without your respect.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
July 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#174
I played DotA way before SC2 came out, so it's fair to say that my preference towards DotA/LoL (I play both, though not very often) has been biased due to my previous experience with those games. I bought SC2, beat the campaign, tried a couple games... then let it go. As a spectator eSport, BW is still #1.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 13:36:01
July 09 2012 13:34 GMT
#175
after I've reread the whole thread I got a headache.
I arrived at the conclusion, that all those god damn sequels, dotas, moba, switching, not switching and other things shall be a forever testament of how good BW actually was for me.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 13:52:09
July 09 2012 13:45 GMT
#176
My friend falls under the first category. When SC2 came out his biggest complaint was that it was nothing like BW. That "Blizzard could have marketed SC2 under a name not related to Starcraft and no one would notice." This was the reason that he refused to play SC2. As soon as LOL came out he began to play LOL. When I pointed out that SC2 was more closely related to BW than LOL, he replied with a polite, "Fuck you."
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
July 09 2012 13:47 GMT
#177
What I still don't get is why people argue over matters of preference. Come on, is it really hard to believe I might like something you don't? There's nothing wrong with preferring BW over SC2 or vice versa, and articulating that opinion. Just realize that you are not the center of the world and that your opinions and preferences are not universal. To "not understand" why people have different tastes than you is just arrogant as fuck.
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
July 09 2012 13:51 GMT
#178
I dont understand why it's so hard to /watch more than 1 game. I follow sc2, bw, dota and lol. Support esports instead of single games
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 09 2012 13:52 GMT
#179
I'm really confused why are people making the comparison of moba's to rts in terms of fan-base in the first place, they play out almost completely differently, the only discernible trait that you can argue carries over is stop animation micro, that's it. Why force the argument? You like them for completely different reasons.
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 13:56:01
July 09 2012 13:54 GMT
#180
On July 08 2012 23:34 vOdToasT wrote:
I think it's because while DotA is not as amazing as Brood War, it is in a different genre of games than Brood War. This makes it easier to transition to. StarCraft 2 is in the same genre as Brood War, but much worse.

It's easier to change to something that is different altogether, than something that is just inferior. SC2 is just a shitty RTS, an inferior version of SC1, but DotA is something different. When you're used to playing a good RTS, switching to a mediocre one is harder than switching to a DotA game.


SC2 is just shitty RTS ?... how you hit that much post on TL .. writing that kind of shitt...
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