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Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
May 24 2012 08:33 GMT
#221
Jesus christ, these incidents just brought all the closeted day9 haters out, along with their homemade concocted psych evaluations on how day9 is really an asshole who just wants your money.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 24 2012 08:33 GMT
#222
A team hasn't snatched a top-tier pro from another team lately...and no player related scandals. So now let's hate on day9! great job dudes.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
May 24 2012 08:34 GMT
#223
On May 24 2012 17:23 Aberu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:21 GreYMisT wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Frankly, as someone who suffers from a bit of it myself, I could immediately tell from watching Day9's videos that he suffers from a good deal of narcissism. I am not sure how he manages to convince people that he's a down-to-earth guy; he loves attention, he loves games, and my guess is that's about it. His interpersonal skills likely extend no further than exhibiting the image he wants people to see, and being extremely good at it. However, for such a person, it's challenging to keep that facade up all the time. It taxes you, makes you bitter.

I don't have anything against Day9, he puts a ton of work in, and he's in the spotlight all the time. Just remember though, he chose this. He started making dailies when nobody was watching because he wanted to believe that he is important, and the game he's playing is important. It was all about him. Now, he's in a world where he has to react to hundreds of thousands of other people and pretend he cares about their opinions.


Oh cool, so you know him personally and have access to psych records then?


Seriously, loads of pseudo intellectual bullshit posts like this in here. Good job calling this one out.


Sorry, but you're no more qualified to say that he's a gentle, down-to-earth guy than I am to say otherwise. But sure, go ahead and try to debunk my legitimate analysis based on life experience and ten years in psychology without any sort of counter-evidence. In that case, this entire thread may as well not exist, since the OP's opinion that Day9 is a saint are no more realistic than my opinion that he isn't.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#224
On May 24 2012 17:34 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:23 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:21 GreYMisT wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Frankly, as someone who suffers from a bit of it myself, I could immediately tell from watching Day9's videos that he suffers from a good deal of narcissism. I am not sure how he manages to convince people that he's a down-to-earth guy; he loves attention, he loves games, and my guess is that's about it. His interpersonal skills likely extend no further than exhibiting the image he wants people to see, and being extremely good at it. However, for such a person, it's challenging to keep that facade up all the time. It taxes you, makes you bitter.

I don't have anything against Day9, he puts a ton of work in, and he's in the spotlight all the time. Just remember though, he chose this. He started making dailies when nobody was watching because he wanted to believe that he is important, and the game he's playing is important. It was all about him. Now, he's in a world where he has to react to hundreds of thousands of other people and pretend he cares about their opinions.


Oh cool, so you know him personally and have access to psych records then?


Seriously, loads of pseudo intellectual bullshit posts like this in here. Good job calling this one out.


Sorry, but you're no more qualified to say that he's a gentle, down-to-earth guy than I am to say otherwise. But sure, go ahead and try to debunk my legitimate analysis based on life experience and ten years in psychology without any sort of counter-evidence. In that case, this entire thread may as well not exist, since the OP's opinion that Day9 is a saint are no more realistic than my opinion that he isn't.


I dunno, I met Day9 IRL and he seemed pretty chill to me. Did he have a good personality and sense of self? of course, you need that if you're gonna be talking / commentating for a living. I don't think he's got some sort of mental illness though. Day9 is a nice, normal guy.
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Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
May 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#225
On May 24 2012 17:23 Fyrewolf wrote:

As day[9] was saying on live on 3 yesterday, that is just extraordinarily silly to think that he got into doing the daily for money. Do you really think 3 years ago at harvey mudd he was thinking when he was done with his degree, "yeah, Esports, that's where the moneys gonna be, I gotta get in on that action"? Streaming wasn't a big thing. Monetizing esports content wasn't figured out. Thinking he got into it for the money is a pipe dream. Is there financial incentive to do the daily now? He does make money off it, but he started the show because he was passionate, not because he expected to make money off of it.


As I said, I personally don't know if he ever planned on making this much. I can almost guarantee you if Starcraft 2's foreign scene was anything like BW, he wouldn't be doing his dailies for the community. He cares about the money. Is he making profit from casting, dailies, subscriptions, etc? Absolutely. If he didn't care about the money, he could dump every penny of profit back into tournaments, etc. I'm not trying to bash him, as I think essentially every single person would be doing the same thing, but people honestly thinking he's doing this strictly for the fans are just silly. I can't comment on his attitude as I don't know the guy.
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
May 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#226
So much enviousness here . . . why did you bring this shitstorm to teamliquid?
Now everyone jumps on the bandwagon and searchs something bad about Day[9]. He does not deserve this.

He does this for so many years and all of us have already enjoyed his casting or dailies. Did you donate any money to him? The great majority did not and the great majority did not even pay a single dollar for any of his conent. But you have to critize that there is the option to donate for him and that he is earning too much money. What?
R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
May 24 2012 08:36 GMT
#227
To clarify, Day[9] said that he WAS GM in past seasons with all three races but it was a while ago and he's not on that level now. Even so, being good enough to make what would likely be Masters in the current ladder with all three races is nothing to sneeze at.

What difference does it make though? There are thousands of coaches in professional sports who never made the all-star team or won a championship. Does that make their opinions invalid too? Heck, Phil Jackson was never even the best player on his own team yet he's one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time with 11 championship wins.
FridgeLogic
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 08:41:42
May 24 2012 08:36 GMT
#228
On May 24 2012 17:12 Orracle wrote:
But for people to say he doesn't give a shit about money is straight up silly. If he didn't care about money, he'd donate the rest to tournaments or so after his standard expenses.


First, how many people donate their money to a charity organisation "after their standard expenses" instead of buying TVs, cars, gadgets etc. anyway? Come on, throw the stones.

Second, he in fact did use his money to get the After Hours Gaming League started. He did pay the prize money out of his own pocket at least for Season 1.

Edit: Just saw your next post.

I'm not trying to bash him, as I think essentially every single person would be doing the same thing, but people honestly thinking he's doing this strictly for the fans are just silly. I can't comment on his attitude as I don't know the guy.


I know where you're coming from, but I think there's not only the options of "doing something out of charity" and "doing something for money". I think there's also "pursuing some activity because you love to do it and trying to somehow live from it". On a sidenote, I believe that most people would be a lot happier, if they took the latter approach to their lives
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2012 08:36 GMT
#229
On May 24 2012 17:34 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:23 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:21 GreYMisT wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Frankly, as someone who suffers from a bit of it myself, I could immediately tell from watching Day9's videos that he suffers from a good deal of narcissism. I am not sure how he manages to convince people that he's a down-to-earth guy; he loves attention, he loves games, and my guess is that's about it. His interpersonal skills likely extend no further than exhibiting the image he wants people to see, and being extremely good at it. However, for such a person, it's challenging to keep that facade up all the time. It taxes you, makes you bitter.

I don't have anything against Day9, he puts a ton of work in, and he's in the spotlight all the time. Just remember though, he chose this. He started making dailies when nobody was watching because he wanted to believe that he is important, and the game he's playing is important. It was all about him. Now, he's in a world where he has to react to hundreds of thousands of other people and pretend he cares about their opinions.


Oh cool, so you know him personally and have access to psych records then?


Seriously, loads of pseudo intellectual bullshit posts like this in here. Good job calling this one out.


Sorry, but you're no more qualified to say that he's a gentle, down-to-earth guy than I am to say otherwise. But sure, go ahead and try to debunk my legitimate analysis based on life experience and ten years in psychology without any sort of counter-evidence. In that case, this entire thread may as well not exist, since the OP's opinion that Day9 is a saint are no more realistic than my opinion that he isn't.


You would know then that a key component of science is that the burden of proof relies on the claiment to prove what he is saying is correct, not on the other person to prove it is wrong.

I do agree though, This thread may as well not exist
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 24 2012 08:36 GMT
#230
Yeah Apoo's got everyone's number here. The fact of the matter is, Day9's dailies are free. If you don't like them, don't watch them, or don't subscribe.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Whoranzone
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 08:38:22
May 24 2012 08:37 GMT
#231
On May 24 2012 17:26 Mauldo wrote: blind

Don't know why everyone gets so mad when someone says he doesn't like day9 for various reasons. Personally for instance I find his casting mediocre at best, his dailies don't draw my attention and most of his contributions to sotg appear rather poor to me. But so what why make such a big deal out of it as if it would take away something from your own opinion on him.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
May 24 2012 08:37 GMT
#232
On May 24 2012 17:18 smallerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:00 Secret05 wrote:
I hate to do this because I really like day9 as a caster, but here's a video I watched a while back and it kinda shows day9's elitism personality. The part I'm talking about starts at 3:35 and shows how he kinda has an attitude and thinks he's better than everyone else.



Lol, are you kidding me? Those guys just run up to the guy and stick a microphone and camera in his face when he's doing something on his computer. If it was some guy saying "oh hi day9!" he'd be chill but you cant just bust out a camera on a dude who's taking some downtime and is clearly unprepared. After he's made it clear he's busy, they go in for the "closeup" and basically get inside his personal space AFTER he's basically like "no".

Honestly... if I were in day9's position in there I'd have some very harsh words for those guys. But instead, he MOVED OUT OF THE WAY for their shot cause he's a considerate fellow.


i hate how they just go up to him and ask questions, its polite to just ask "hey day9 do you have time to answer a couple of questions?" if he says no, just walk away.

Really unproffesional interview team.


Yeah he was so busy working on facebook, really couldn't make time to talk for a bit or even just say a couple words.Sure doesn't match the day9 i see on the fucking daily, always jumpy and excited and happy.


In a thread full of dumb posts, behold, the dumberest.

That's like shoving a camera into a stand up comedian's face and, if they don't immediately launch into their routine, calling them a phony asshole.

Day[9]! Why can't you be excited 24/7?! I don't wanna hear any shit about 'downtime' or 'being an actual human being not a fucking dancing monkey'. If you're not constantly in a state of joyful hype, you're obviously just faking it for money. How could you.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 24 2012 08:38 GMT
#233
On May 24 2012 17:34 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:23 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:21 GreYMisT wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Frankly, as someone who suffers from a bit of it myself, I could immediately tell from watching Day9's videos that he suffers from a good deal of narcissism. I am not sure how he manages to convince people that he's a down-to-earth guy; he loves attention, he loves games, and my guess is that's about it. His interpersonal skills likely extend no further than exhibiting the image he wants people to see, and being extremely good at it. However, for such a person, it's challenging to keep that facade up all the time. It taxes you, makes you bitter.

I don't have anything against Day9, he puts a ton of work in, and he's in the spotlight all the time. Just remember though, he chose this. He started making dailies when nobody was watching because he wanted to believe that he is important, and the game he's playing is important. It was all about him. Now, he's in a world where he has to react to hundreds of thousands of other people and pretend he cares about their opinions.


Oh cool, so you know him personally and have access to psych records then?


Seriously, loads of pseudo intellectual bullshit posts like this in here. Good job calling this one out.


Sorry, but you're no more qualified to say that he's a gentle, down-to-earth guy than I am to say otherwise. But sure, go ahead and try to debunk my legitimate analysis based on life experience and ten years in psychology without any sort of counter-evidence. In that case, this entire thread may as well not exist, since the OP's opinion that Day9 is a saint are no more realistic than my opinion that he isn't.


AHAHAHAHAHA

You are the one making the claim that he is a narcissist due to your armchair psych evaluation. When there is no evidence, the default position is NOT narcissism/greed/ulterior motives. Do you know how evidence works?

Guess what guys, You say you have ten years of psychology experience but I think you are actually a bear from outer space based on absolutely no evidence and 10 years of space experience and both of our opinions hold equal weight!
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
May 24 2012 08:39 GMT
#234
On May 24 2012 17:35 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:23 Fyrewolf wrote:

As day[9] was saying on live on 3 yesterday, that is just extraordinarily silly to think that he got into doing the daily for money. Do you really think 3 years ago at harvey mudd he was thinking when he was done with his degree, "yeah, Esports, that's where the moneys gonna be, I gotta get in on that action"? Streaming wasn't a big thing. Monetizing esports content wasn't figured out. Thinking he got into it for the money is a pipe dream. Is there financial incentive to do the daily now? He does make money off it, but he started the show because he was passionate, not because he expected to make money off of it.


As I said, I personally don't know if he ever planned on making this much. I can almost guarantee you if Starcraft 2's foreign scene was anything like BW, he wouldn't be doing his dailies for the community. He cares about the money. Is he making profit from casting, dailies, subscriptions, etc? Absolutely. If he didn't care about the money, he could dump every penny of profit back into tournaments, etc. I'm not trying to bash him, as I think essentially every single person would be doing the same thing, but people honestly thinking he's doing this strictly for the fans are just silly. I can't comment on his attitude as I don't know the guy.


'You realise he started doing dailies for BW.... He probably wouldn't invest as much time in the dailies which would've been impossible anyway since he would have had to work. And you really don't know what he's doing with the money maye he only makes 30k$ for himself and invests the rest or maybe he takes a majority of the money it's just speculating.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#235
I reckon that Idra is right. Day[9] is probably a pretty nice guy IRL - I've never seen footage of him acting like a douche - but his financial situation and the whole donating thing seems a bit shady. Not enough to warrant criticisms of his psychological state (seriously guys?) but enough to warrant a little bit of scrutiny.
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
May 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#236
I don't like day9 and his obviously fake laugh
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2012 08:42 GMT
#237
On May 24 2012 17:41 SeaSwift wrote:
I reckon that Idra is right. Day[9] is probably a pretty nice guy IRL - I've never seen footage of him acting like a douche - but his financial situation and the whole donating thing seems a bit shady. Not enough to warrant criticisms of his psychological state (seriously guys?) but enough to warrant a little bit of scrutiny.


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Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
May 24 2012 08:42 GMT
#238
On May 24 2012 17:38 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:34 Cel.erity wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:23 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:21 GreYMisT wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Frankly, as someone who suffers from a bit of it myself, I could immediately tell from watching Day9's videos that he suffers from a good deal of narcissism. I am not sure how he manages to convince people that he's a down-to-earth guy; he loves attention, he loves games, and my guess is that's about it. His interpersonal skills likely extend no further than exhibiting the image he wants people to see, and being extremely good at it. However, for such a person, it's challenging to keep that facade up all the time. It taxes you, makes you bitter.

I don't have anything against Day9, he puts a ton of work in, and he's in the spotlight all the time. Just remember though, he chose this. He started making dailies when nobody was watching because he wanted to believe that he is important, and the game he's playing is important. It was all about him. Now, he's in a world where he has to react to hundreds of thousands of other people and pretend he cares about their opinions.


Oh cool, so you know him personally and have access to psych records then?


Seriously, loads of pseudo intellectual bullshit posts like this in here. Good job calling this one out.


Sorry, but you're no more qualified to say that he's a gentle, down-to-earth guy than I am to say otherwise. But sure, go ahead and try to debunk my legitimate analysis based on life experience and ten years in psychology without any sort of counter-evidence. In that case, this entire thread may as well not exist, since the OP's opinion that Day9 is a saint are no more realistic than my opinion that he isn't.


AHAHAHAHAHA

You are the one making the claim that he is a narcissist due to your armchair psych evaluation. When there is no evidence, the default position is NOT narcissism/greed/ulterior motives. Do you know how evidence works?

Guess what guys, You say you have ten years of psychology experience but I think you are actually a bear from outer space based on absolutely no evidence and 10 years of space experience and both of our opinions hold equal weight!

Lol epic counter. Might use this one of these days.

On topic. there have been more testimonies from people working for Day9 that he is a good person than those who dont know him personally. So I guess that counts.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
May 24 2012 08:43 GMT
#239
On May 24 2012 17:36 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:34 Cel.erity wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:23 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:21 GreYMisT wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Frankly, as someone who suffers from a bit of it myself, I could immediately tell from watching Day9's videos that he suffers from a good deal of narcissism. I am not sure how he manages to convince people that he's a down-to-earth guy; he loves attention, he loves games, and my guess is that's about it. His interpersonal skills likely extend no further than exhibiting the image he wants people to see, and being extremely good at it. However, for such a person, it's challenging to keep that facade up all the time. It taxes you, makes you bitter.

I don't have anything against Day9, he puts a ton of work in, and he's in the spotlight all the time. Just remember though, he chose this. He started making dailies when nobody was watching because he wanted to believe that he is important, and the game he's playing is important. It was all about him. Now, he's in a world where he has to react to hundreds of thousands of other people and pretend he cares about their opinions.


Oh cool, so you know him personally and have access to psych records then?


Seriously, loads of pseudo intellectual bullshit posts like this in here. Good job calling this one out.


Sorry, but you're no more qualified to say that he's a gentle, down-to-earth guy than I am to say otherwise. But sure, go ahead and try to debunk my legitimate analysis based on life experience and ten years in psychology without any sort of counter-evidence. In that case, this entire thread may as well not exist, since the OP's opinion that Day9 is a saint are no more realistic than my opinion that he isn't.


You would know then that a key component of science is that the burden of proof relies on the claiment to prove what he is saying is correct, not on the other person to prove it is wrong.

I do agree though, This thread may as well not exist


Yes, the burden of proof is on everyone who claims they know anything about Day9 one way or the other. However, nobody here is qualified to give that kind of proof, because nobody here knows him. Therefore, why should my assessment of his personality be any more scrutinized than that of someone like you who comes in with one-liners supporting him? It's a thread, in a forum, full of opinions, and I gave mine based on more evidence than the majority of posters here.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 24 2012 08:43 GMT
#240
To be honest I don't really care about how much money other people make... He doesn't do anything wrong or force anyone to give him money.
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