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RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 20:48:31
May 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#2021
On May 05 2012 05:45 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:42 RusHXceL wrote:
Why did Destiny left Quantic?? srs question.

Maybe read the OP before posting? Seriously....................


srs where does it say what happen on stream. I would like u to point it out
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
May 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#2022
On May 05 2012 05:44 adrenaLinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:35 StarStrider wrote:
South Park is a good analogy.

The majority of society has a problem with a ton of content orignating from South Park.

Should Comedy Central pull the show? Should the advertisers for South Park be contacted?

In my opinion, context is everything. Coming from South Park, you don't expect a high politically correct moral standard. And coming from Destiny, same thing. That is the appeal. The rebellion against PC. The question is, do you pull South Park and Destiny, or do you acknowledge it as being a different stroke for the people who are into that kind of humor, and just mind your own goddamn business?

Is South Park reliant on sponsorship money?

Yes.
Do corporate sponsors flock to advertise and partner with South Park?

Yes.
The answer is no.

Wrong.
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
May 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#2023
On May 05 2012 05:45 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:42 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Apparently having morals, and pursuing your morals to a conclusion, is now looked down on as being self righteous or elitist?

YES, damn it. You don't get to force others to conform to your beliefs!


Yo, no one forced him to do anything.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
May 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#2024
On May 05 2012 05:43 BreakfastBurrito wrote:
SC2 community is going to destroy itself, lol
seems like he did the right thing and has left all of us to our own witch hunting devices


By he left us you mean got banned from Teamliquid and kicked from his team? Yeah he sure showed us.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 20:51:19
May 04 2012 20:49 GMT
#2025
On May 05 2012 05:48 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:44 adrenaLinG wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:35 StarStrider wrote:
South Park is a good analogy.

The majority of society has a problem with a ton of content orignating from South Park.

Should Comedy Central pull the show? Should the advertisers for South Park be contacted?

In my opinion, context is everything. Coming from South Park, you don't expect a high politically correct moral standard. And coming from Destiny, same thing. That is the appeal. The rebellion against PC. The question is, do you pull South Park and Destiny, or do you acknowledge it as being a different stroke for the people who are into that kind of humor, and just mind your own goddamn business?

Is South Park reliant on sponsorship money?

Yes.
Show nested quote +
Do corporate sponsors flock to advertise and partner with South Park?

Yes.
Show nested quote +
The answer is no.

Wrong.


No, sponsors do not go to a television show and offer sponsorship, they go to the network. Here's another revelation for you, the network is also what buys the rights to air a television show.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
May 04 2012 20:49 GMT
#2026
On May 05 2012 05:47 jazzyjazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:42 RusHXceL wrote:
Why did Destiny left Quantic?? srs question.


He didn't leave Quantic. Quantic kicked him off the team because he kept on saying racist/derogatory comments on his stream which tarnishes the reputation of Quantic.


Don't know if you read the OP, but Destiny makes it clear that it was ultimately his choice to leave.
adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
May 04 2012 20:49 GMT
#2027
On May 05 2012 05:48 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:44 adrenaLinG wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:35 StarStrider wrote:
South Park is a good analogy.

The majority of society has a problem with a ton of content orignating from South Park.

Should Comedy Central pull the show? Should the advertisers for South Park be contacted?

In my opinion, context is everything. Coming from South Park, you don't expect a high politically correct moral standard. And coming from Destiny, same thing. That is the appeal. The rebellion against PC. The question is, do you pull South Park and Destiny, or do you acknowledge it as being a different stroke for the people who are into that kind of humor, and just mind your own goddamn business?

Is South Park reliant on sponsorship money?

Yes.
Show nested quote +
Do corporate sponsors flock to advertise and partner with South Park?

Yes.
Show nested quote +
The answer is no.

Wrong.

You clearly have no idea how TV shows are syndicated.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
bre1010
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
71 Posts
May 04 2012 20:50 GMT
#2028
On May 04 2012 15:55 give.ViviD wrote:
huhuhu, the starcraft 2 community is starting to become infamous


I feel like this guy on the first page is right. I'm going to college next year and when I tell people I play Starcraft I don't want the first thing people say to be something about how I must be part of a fucking witch hunt that is never satisfied. I'd rather be accused of raging too hard.

I'm glad Destiny plugged his stream so that I know where to find him now.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
May 04 2012 20:51 GMT
#2029
On May 05 2012 05:47 jazzyjazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:42 RusHXceL wrote:
Why did Destiny left Quantic?? srs question.


He didn't leave Quantic. Quantic kicked him off the team because he kept on saying racist/derogatory comments on his stream which tarnishes the reputation of Quantic.

Wrong. Please don't spread misinformation.

Destiny chose to leave Quantic. The specifics of the situation have not been released.

It is likely that Quantic was pressured into disciplining him or kicking him off the team. Perhaps they offered him a chance to stay on the team if he would apologize and change his ways or something like that... or perhaps not. Perhaps he would have definitely been kicked off if he didn't choose to leave... no one knows but the people involved. It is all speculation at this point.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
May 04 2012 20:51 GMT
#2030
On May 05 2012 05:48 RusHXceL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:45 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:42 RusHXceL wrote:
Why did Destiny left Quantic?? srs question.

Maybe read the OP before posting? Seriously....................


srs where does it say what happen on stream. I would like u to point it out

There were a few options on the table when we were discussing things, but all of the options left Quantic in a really rough position. The fact of the matter is, me leaving Quantic or forfeiting any sponsorship really doesn't hurt my income, or affect me, much at all. But it would be devastating to certain parts of Quantic if things continued down this road (and still might be, though there's not much that can be done at this point).

Your question was why did he leave Quantin NOT what did he do on stream. Why he left Quantic is clearly indicated here.
"let your freak flag fly"
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
May 04 2012 20:52 GMT
#2031
On May 05 2012 05:50 bre1010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 15:55 give.ViviD wrote:
huhuhu, the starcraft 2 community is starting to become infamous


I'm glad Destiny plugged his stream so that I know where to find him now.


Yeah man I'm glad he did too, I have a really hard time using google.
StarStrider
Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 20:53:24
May 04 2012 20:52 GMT
#2032
On May 05 2012 05:49 adrenaLinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:48 Chocobo wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:44 adrenaLinG wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:35 StarStrider wrote:
South Park is a good analogy.

The majority of society has a problem with a ton of content orignating from South Park.

Should Comedy Central pull the show? Should the advertisers for South Park be contacted?

In my opinion, context is everything. Coming from South Park, you don't expect a high politically correct moral standard. And coming from Destiny, same thing. That is the appeal. The rebellion against PC. The question is, do you pull South Park and Destiny, or do you acknowledge it as being a different stroke for the people who are into that kind of humor, and just mind your own goddamn business?

Is South Park reliant on sponsorship money?

Yes.
Do corporate sponsors flock to advertise and partner with South Park?

Yes.
The answer is no.

Wrong.

You clearly have no idea how TV shows are syndicated.


You speak as if Quantic's and Comedy Central's sponsorship interests are so very different.
Spontaneous Pneumothorax sucks, please keep MVP sC in your thoughts. sC fighting! 힘내세요
ProBot
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada170 Posts
May 04 2012 20:52 GMT
#2033
On May 05 2012 05:33 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:30 ProBot wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:15 BlueLanterna wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:12 divito wrote:
On May 05 2012 04:57 BlueLanterna wrote:
Choosing to be offended shows you actually have interest in making sure the SC2 community is a place you can join without seeing insults directly at your heritage or race, regardless if you mean it or not. Just like the fighting game nerds wanting to keep saying "RAPE THAT HO" even though some female players would love to play and are driven away by such immaturity. Sorry if you don't care to see that.

I'd rather see freedom to express yourself however you want, and a community that understands individuality. I abhor where we are headed as a community, where the mass of complainers suck the personality out of players and casters, and there ends up being a debate thread over every little action.

I find it incredibly disturbing that people that can't handle things psychologically are driving the nature of things in this community (and in life in general), because it breeds the status quo. We will slowly lose logical and critical thinking when we're programming younger people to jump at the sight of certain words, phrases, or actions without concern for the context, history or analytical aspects associated with that that they're whining about.


Do you understand that there is a difference between expressing yourself how you want, and using language which is inflammatory to an entire group of people? If you really think not being able to say gook and nigger is robbing people of their personality, get out of this community and get some psychiatric help.

I completely disagree with you. People are using these certain words and phrases precisely because they DONT understand the context, or the history behind what they're whining about.



We're talking about the same language the same group of peoples use to describe themselves in every second sentence right? And it seems like every other racial group in the world can use as well (Listen to asian / hispanic rappers they drop the n bomb just as much as black cats ) .... However whenever a white person uses it regardless of context it's racist? That sure makes sense to me.


No , but when a kid gets mad over a video game and resorts to calling his opponent a racial slur then he is no better than the racists who use the word in the same inflammatory manner.


And who are you to say whether he's no better than a racist or not? The bigger question should even be why does anyone ever care what the dude says on his stream in the first place? Like i haven't even read 1 argument as to why anyone even cares? Actually lets see if he's done anything to show or prove he's racist.

Has destiny called a black player a nigger on stream? No

ok then ... well how about calling someone with mental disabilities a retard? Hrmmm nope again.

Well shit maybe he's actually called a homosexual a faggot then? Wait he hasn't? Well god damn.

Has he raised money for charity benefiting mostly non white people? Well yeah, he has actually ( funny how nobody actually talks about this one ... go figure there)

Mother fucker must be racist!!!

To be fair he has said those words out of frustration, but Idra, machine, and incontrol at some point have used the word gay or fag on stream at some point ... yet nobody's e-mailing their sponsors bitching ... funny how that works, hell idra gave chris the finger and yelled "fuck you" at him at mlg that had young kids in the crowd .... nobodies e-mailing sponsors bitching about that either. If your complaining about destiny but not a good 60% of pro gamers out there, or the ones i previously mentioned then your a fucking hypocrite and have business bitching about anything.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 20:55:09
May 04 2012 20:53 GMT
#2034
On May 05 2012 05:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:40 TheBanana wrote:
Another victim to holier-than-thou political correctness?

not using racial slurs isn't political correctness. its common sense.


No, common sense is to fight racism against racists, and not people spouting bad words to let off steam during a fit.
It's like trying to prevent house fires by showering people lighting cigarettes, with fire extinguishers.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
May 04 2012 20:53 GMT
#2035
On May 05 2012 05:45 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:42 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Apparently having morals, and pursuing your morals to a conclusion, is now looked down on as being self righteous or elitist?

YES, damn it. You don't get to force others to conform to your beliefs!


Nobody forced Destiny to conform to their beliefs. That's why he parted ways with Quantic. Because he WON'T conform with what other people believe. I respect that he is his own man, if someone doesn't like what he does, he doesn't give a shit.

But if you don't feel what he is doing is appropriate, and you feel strongly enough, then why should you sit down and shut up? Destiny is a supporter of free speech obviously, so he is by proxy a supporter of other people having free speech, including the ability to speak out against what they feel is wrong.

Destiny is fine without sponsors. I wish Destiny the best of luck. But no company should want to associate themselves with that kind of behaviour, and blatantly in this case they felt the same.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
May 04 2012 20:53 GMT
#2036
On May 05 2012 05:48 adrenaLinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:47 d00p wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:44 adrenaLinG wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:35 StarStrider wrote:
South Park is a good analogy.

The majority of society has a problem with a ton of content orignating from South Park.

Should Comedy Central pull the show? Should the advertisers for South Park be contacted?

In my opinion, context is everything. Coming from South Park, you don't expect a high politically correct moral standard. And coming from Destiny, same thing. That is the appeal. The rebellion against PC. The question is, do you pull South Park and Destiny, or do you acknowledge it as being a different stroke for the people who are into that kind of humor, and just mind your own goddamn business?

Is South Park reliant on sponsorship money?

Do corporate sponsors flock to advertise and partner with South Park?

The answer is no.


You sure about that? Do you even know what your talking about? Are you an insider in that industry? Do you actually know who flocks where.

The answer is no.

I sure know more than you about it.


Ok great. Have self-righteous day you all knowing god of a man.
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
May 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#2037
Has destiny called a black player a nigger on stream? No

ok then ... well how about calling someone with mental disabilities a retard? Hrmmm nope again.

Well shit maybe he's actually called a homosexual a faggot then? Wait he hasn't? Well god damn.


How the fuck do you know? Do you personally know everyone he has played against on his stream?
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#2038
absolutely ridiculous that this had to happen.
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
sc2effort
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Russian Federation269 Posts
May 04 2012 20:55 GMT
#2039
this is pathetic, some random ladder opponent and all of this happens, time to re think some things community
5 time GM zerg Currently top masters
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
May 04 2012 20:55 GMT
#2040
I always supported TL's good community, but I gotta wonder this time, what are the moderators thinking?
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