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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 01 2012 18:18 GMT
#1321
People who are going to write to sponsors are really, really immature. I can't believe people can be such idiots. Pardon the strong language but they're doing shit that can be really damaging to more people than just Destiny. Not that Destiny even deserves any of this.

Some people need a reality check. Think before sending silly emails about an issue most of you internet white knights don't even give a fuck about. Seriously.
maru lover forever
hegeo
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany194 Posts
May 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#1322
On May 02 2012 03:11 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:08 TheWorldToCome wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:54 NoGasfOu wrote:
When Destiny was on Korean server someone told him that the most insulting thing a Korean could take is to be called "dog people". Destiny then used that phrase whole time because he realized that his usual bm words on NA ladder didn't have much effect on Korean players.

As a community, we have two options: One is to treat Starcraft as a random video game. The second is to make it as professional as possible and be proud of it. I actually don't play any other game anymore or follow any other community except Starcraft because I hoped that this community is different to others that I'd involved before moving into Starcraft.

I'm not disappointed in Destiny at all. Just disappointed in Quantic; because they're the one that makes decision whether to allow this to happen. I've always been a fan of Quantic and hope the don't fall down the path of a "personality and bm" team.



Is that true?



Yup, that's why his excuse of words don't matter is so laughable. He has multiple times picked the words he knows will do the most damage possible when bming others.

This shit he says often isn't done for humor, it's done out of anger and that's really not cool.


IF this story is true, this is a pretty much whole new perspective. So I'm not going to say anything more without proof.
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:22:13
May 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#1323
EG-TL!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#1324
Journalists are jailed in Russia, North Korea is keeping its own people in poverty while constantly threatening stability in the region, portions of Africa are ruled by roving gangs and warlords while the civilian population is exiled or slaughtered and this is what gets you assholes to turn off the tv and start writing emails 'for change'?
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
skrjabin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
May 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#1325
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.


/lol

god will not save eSports my friend. You are now spewing hate speech towards a group of people based on their beliefs.

(he has to be a troll, right?)
"Something elitist" -Nerd hiding behind computer
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
May 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#1326
On May 02 2012 03:14 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:10 FairForever wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:08 SnowSC2 wrote:
If you really have to contact anyone because you were "offended" while voluntarily watching a stream, don't let it be the sponsors. Seriously, anyone who wants this community to grow yet would complain to a SPONSOR over something like this is a hypocrite. This is literally one of the worst ways to go about this. Its just stupid.


The hypocrisy is wanting SC2 to be mainstream while promoting and encouraging behaviour that could never be acceptable in mainstream society.



Now this is a good post.

Instead its all about money, its all about bleeding this game and community dry as fast as we can while its still hot, shh dont tell the sponsors anything, just hide the weirdoes, racists, homophobes and dont...tell....anyone.

Quite frankly i dont like that, i rather the community were built around good people that will also have mainstream appeal if we ever get there. Not being built around shady crap, 4chan rejects and memes like "u mad bro?" from yesteryear.

There is no hypocrisy in wanting to have the community self-regulate. That's why the matter should be handled internally. Of course, it should not be ignored. Nothing to do with money or bleeding the community dry. It's really the opposite - it's about having a community that can sustain and moderate itself - nothing healthier.
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#1327
On May 02 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:10 FairForever wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:08 SnowSC2 wrote:
If you really have to contact anyone because you were "offended" while voluntarily watching a stream, don't let it be the sponsors. Seriously, anyone who wants this community to grow yet would complain to a SPONSOR over something like this is a hypocrite. This is literally one of the worst ways to go about this. Its just stupid.


The hypocrisy is wanting SC2 to be mainstream while promoting and encouraging behaviour that could never be acceptable in mainstream society.

Dave Chapelle, the animators of "The Boondocks", and Louis. C.K. are laughing at your stilted, myopic view of what the "mainstream" consists of. I guess offensive players like Destiny have but one option left, and to put it in the words of the famous Mike Tyson, "I'll fuck you 'till you love me, faggot."


The occurrence of this language in art is an entirely different matter.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#1328
Surprised this is news to some people/just getting out. I stopped supporting destiny and any team associated with him for these exact same reason months back.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Toastie
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands104 Posts
May 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#1329
On May 02 2012 03:17 NMHU. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:15 act.hero wrote:
Destiny is a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. You're allowed to be racist.

It's disgusting that people think it's okay to try to force others to act a certain way. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

If Destiny's words hurt you, don't watch his stream. He is a person playing a fucking video game. I hope he continues offending you people, because I want you to continue to be upset. You deserve not to feel good, and I'm glad Destiny exists to cause you this pain.



I don't think that I can agree more with you. Well thought post. QxGDesting fightingggggg!

Counterargument.

Mr. Obama is just a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. He is allowed to be racist.
So if Obama says each and every person that ever thought of the Koran, doesn't belong in this world, than what?!

America would oppose because their representative behaves in a way that harms them.

Destiny, who sadly IS a representative of the SC2 community (being a 'pro') is doing exactly the same thing. The community (america, in this metaphor) resists, AND HAS REASON TO DO SO!
Never give up, never surrender!
ImAbstracT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
519 Posts
May 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#1330
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.

As someone who is a devout Christian himself, I would just like to point out his post count. Do not think this guy represent's Christians....
"I want you to take a moment, and reflect, on how much of a failure you are" - IdrA
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:22:08
May 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#1331
On May 02 2012 03:19 zerglingrodeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:10 FairForever wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:08 SnowSC2 wrote:
If you really have to contact anyone because you were "offended" while voluntarily watching a stream, don't let it be the sponsors. Seriously, anyone who wants this community to grow yet would complain to a SPONSOR over something like this is a hypocrite. This is literally one of the worst ways to go about this. Its just stupid.


The hypocrisy is wanting SC2 to be mainstream while promoting and encouraging behaviour that could never be acceptable in mainstream society.

Dave Chapelle, the animators of "The Boondocks", and Louis. C.K. are laughing at your stilted, myopic view of what the "mainstream" consists of. I guess offensive players like Destiny have but one option left, and to put it in the words of the famous Mike Tyson, "I'll fuck you 'till you love me, faggot."


The occurrence of this language in art is an entirely different matter.


This.

Also, Louis CK doesn't actually think it's great to use language like that. (Don't click this link if you're in an environment in which strong language would get you in trouble.)
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
May 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#1332
On May 02 2012 03:18 sad.wish wrote:
IF quantic and Destiny don't want us to punish them by emailing razer, then they should of use their heads before signing Destiny. I would be glad to send an email a week, till Destiny is suited an appropriate punishment.

It's the community's job to be running around trying to punish people, why? There's awareness and being concerned about something and there's vengeance.
duracell
Profile Joined April 2011
53 Posts
May 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#1333
On May 02 2012 02:58 Dreycor wrote:

Destiny is free to say what he believe, as are all those against him for whatever reason. However if these people actually get razor to force quantic to remove him from their team, or even razor might leave the "e-sports" scene altogether. then Destiny is being punished. and perhaps the whole community get's punished for someone expressing their freedom, and surely that is wrong.

That is the only argument i came to offer, and i firmly believe that you and i are both right in what we have said.

There's rather a HUGE difference in someone having hurt feelings and 10's of thousands of dollars being taken away from those who work hard to earn it. Including Destiny. In fact, one could argue (as incontrol, amongst others, are arguing) that this "movement" will actually do far more to harm others than help. Surely we can all agree on that.



I can agree with that, but I think that it shows that it might just be time for Destiny put aside his concern for expressing himself without regard on a public medium.

It might also be time for people who are going to be negatively affected, such as TL, Quantic, and any other starcraft-sponsored organizations, to step in and either discreetly talk to Destiny or public denounce his actions.

Racism and hatred is just too hugely part of our world in order to ignore it and cite it as just personal expression. If you are trying to be professional, and trying to be viable financially, you are going to have to follow the social customs of the world. I agree hugely with the underlying message that Destiny has been posting with, that too many people are hurt by too many artificial things, but he has to realize that many people were raised in different circumstances that make his words more harmful than he could realize, and the intentional use of hurtful words in a humorous manner is even more insulting and disrespectful than he intended it to be.
Pantythief
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark657 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1334
On May 02 2012 03:18 sad.wish wrote:
IF quantic and Destiny don't want us to punish them by emailing razer, then they should of use their heads before signing Destiny. I would be glad to send an email a week, till Destiny is suited an appropriate punishment.


1. Get a life.

2. Grow a pair.

3. Don't use the internet.




I'm not trolling you. You need to hard-reorganize your life, right now.

User was temp banned for this post.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1335
Reading a lot of these responses about Razer potentially pulling all its money out of esports because of this makes me think that not a lot of those people know what Razer sells.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1336
On May 02 2012 03:17 andReslic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:16 RaptorSC2 wrote:
Listen the fuck up, when you are emailing the sponsors, it actually hurts esports more than it does when destiny calls people faggots. Just stop, you wont "help grow esports" by doing so. It also makes you look like little crying children, who gets offended over silly things.

Can you tell me how does it affects E-sports? If the problem is only 1 player?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=incontrol&t=c&f=-1&u=incontrol&gb=date&d=

Look at Incontrol states in this thread. It's been lost amid a sea of shit, but it's still there. I advise everyone to read it.

I'd like to ask the mods to put it at the top of the thread as warning as well. People overreacting are incredibly immature.
maru lover forever
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:24:37
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1337
On May 02 2012 03:17 andReslic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:16 RaptorSC2 wrote:
Listen the fuck up, when you are emailing the sponsors, it actually hurts esports more than it does when destiny calls people faggots. Just stop, you wont "help grow esports" by doing so. It also makes you look like little crying children, who gets offended over silly things.

Can you tell me how does it affects E-sports? If the problem is only 1 player?


Sponsors pull money/more sponsors withhold actions such as sponsoring a team or an event. Getting the sponsors in on this is really a all-around awful situation for the Esports scene.

Edit: Sponsors potentially do the above actions because of the way that previous sponsorships have been handled. Incidents like this and the whole orb thing and the reddit witch hunt that came with it are just giving people more reason to not invest in the industry.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1338
On May 02 2012 03:10 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:08 Swords wrote:
If you're Razer and you get these emails, do you:

a) drop your lucrative sponsorship of multiple esports teams, including Quantic who currently has an extremely popular foreigner who has broken into the Korean scene?

or

b) request Quantic drop/suspend/reprimand Destiny?

Razer is not going to damage itself over this, that'd be bad business. Contacting them is not going to kill esports. Like people have said though, this sort of behavior being picked up on by a major publication or something of that ilk will actually do terrible terrible damage.


If I am Razer, I'd be much closer to (A) than (B). No reason to hang around this scene if I have to dealt with this shit on weekly basis.

I can understand that viewpoint if you were a sponsor like Dr. Pepper.
But Razer? I doubt they would consider #1, that would be like Coke deciding not to produce beverages.
Toastie
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands104 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1339
On May 02 2012 03:20 EpiCenteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.

As someone who is a devout Christian himself, I would just like to point out his post count. Do not think this guy represent's Christians....

Disregarding peoples arguments based off their postcount doesn't make you more relevant either.
Never give up, never surrender!
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:22:33
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1340
On May 02 2012 03:20 EpiCenteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.

As someone who is a devout Christian himself, I would just like to point out his post count. Do not think this guy represent's Christians....


This guy represents Christians, alright........

Just kidding. It would be fuckin' silly if we thought he did. Much like how people think Destiny represents the community's view on Asians when he, himself, says the word "gook".
EG-TL!
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