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Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1341
For those of us that want to email Razer and/or Quantic, anyone here know the relevant e-mail adresses that we can send our complaints to?
Mugennn
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:22:27
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1342
On May 02 2012 03:19 zefreak wrote:
Journalists are jailed in Russia, North Korea is keeping its own people in poverty while constantly threatening stability in the region, portions of Africa are ruled by roving gangs and warlords while the civilian population is exiled or slaughtered and this is what gets you assholes to turn off the tv and start writing emails 'for change'?


In before someone makes a post about how racism is a world issue ect. ect. Someone said the word 'gook' because they were frustrated at loosing a game < ----- not a world issue
"bite off more then you can chew, then chew it "
Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
May 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#1343
On May 02 2012 03:16 Josketh wrote:
If you cared this much about racism, stop fighting over language and actually DO something to defeat racism. Words aren't an important step. They are irrelevant. Education is the crucial step. Spreading love and understanding is an important step. Let's move in those directions rather than filling a thread full of babble that doesn't absolutely nothing in the fight against racism/bullying.


I'll just call you white boy from now on. I think that'll get past the censors.
Namenlos
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany96 Posts
May 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#1344
On May 02 2012 02:56 SovietHammer wrote:
My email to razor, in an attempt to mitagate any damage done by this poor judment:

"Razor is my favored company when it comes to the purchase of gaming equipment. The company's support of the StarCraft player Steven "Destiny" Bonnell has increased my desire to purchase razor products in the future. I appreciate razor's commitment to supporting eSports and its players, and I would simply like to say thank you."

Attempting to slander a promineate player in the community for expressing emotion does in no why help this game, scene, or any players related to esports.



I send one and I hope others follow. Even if you are stupid enough to be offended by that you should rather write to quantic or destiny.

It is pretty dumb to be offended by his flames in a private time ladder game. In the more professional broadcasted tourneys I could understand this thread, but this time I question the mental sanity of a lot of persons in this thread.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18875 Posts
May 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#1345
On May 02 2012 03:20 Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:17 NMHU. wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:15 act.hero wrote:
Destiny is a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. You're allowed to be racist.

It's disgusting that people think it's okay to try to force others to act a certain way. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

If Destiny's words hurt you, don't watch his stream. He is a person playing a fucking video game. I hope he continues offending you people, because I want you to continue to be upset. You deserve not to feel good, and I'm glad Destiny exists to cause you this pain.



I don't think that I can agree more with you. Well thought post. QxGDesting fightingggggg!

Counterargument.

Mr. Obama is just a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. He is allowed to be racist.
So if Obama says each and every person that ever thought of the Koran, doesn't belong in this world, than what?!

America would oppose because their representative behaves in a way that harms them.

Destiny, who sadly IS a representative of the SC2 community (being a 'pro') is doing exactly the same thing. The community (america, in this metaphor) resists, AND HAS REASON TO DO SO!

Your counterargument, based on the ludicrous grounds that the public speech of an elected official is equitable to that of a professional Sc2 player, is terrible. Try again.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#1346
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.

User was banned for this post.



Thank you, whichever mod did this ban.

As an atheist I feel strongly offended by this statement. Please ban this entire IP as well.

User was warned for this post
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:23:23
May 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#1347
On May 02 2012 03:19 skrjabin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.


/lol

god will not save eSports my friend. You are now spewing hate speech towards a group of people based on their beliefs.

(he has to be a troll, right?)


omg lol gem in this thread. that has to be trolling. the username just spills dem beans. people shouldn't take that seriously it actually was just a joke.
maru lover forever
NMHU.
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada110 Posts
May 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#1348
On May 02 2012 03:20 Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:17 NMHU. wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:15 act.hero wrote:
Destiny is a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. You're allowed to be racist.

It's disgusting that people think it's okay to try to force others to act a certain way. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

If Destiny's words hurt you, don't watch his stream. He is a person playing a fucking video game. I hope he continues offending you people, because I want you to continue to be upset. You deserve not to feel good, and I'm glad Destiny exists to cause you this pain.



I don't think that I can agree more with you. Well thought post. QxGDesting fightingggggg!

Counterargument.

Mr. Obama is just a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. He is allowed to be racist.
So if Obama says each and every person that ever thought of the Koran, doesn't belong in this world, than what?!

America would oppose because their representative behaves in a way that harms them.

Destiny, who sadly IS a representative of the SC2 community (being a 'pro') is doing exactly the same thing. The community (america, in this metaphor) resists, AND HAS REASON TO DO SO!



Counterargument,


He has called himself numerous times that he is only a semipro player.

Reminder of Destiny awesomeness : Alright, I did some thinking, I'm sorry about what I said. Here's a link to my official statement on the issue - http://tinyurl.com/apologytocommunity

Debate me now.



User was warned for this post
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#1349
So just beacuse Destiny is one of the `Big Faces` of Starcraft 2 that means he has to become a loving/daring and sophisticated person?

No, but he needs to learn that with his popularity comes responsibility and that in that responsibility means learning to think before you speak.

Many people of all races/ethnic backgrounds, of all shapes and sizes watch his stream. He needs to learn to think before he speaks to the thousands watching.

Especially in the Starcraft 2 scene where the Asian community is such a huge part of it.

I brought this up earlier, but look at what happened to the Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen. He said some choice things that infuriated many Cuba-Americans. It hurt the team even more since the majority of their fanbase is Cuban-American and playing in South Florida where a lot of Cuban-Americans call home.
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
neosympathy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4 Posts
May 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#1350
By the way, there's nothing stopping us destiny fans from e-mailing Razer to tell them how upset we'd be if Destiny was removed from Quantic.

I'm just sayin' ...
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#1351
On May 02 2012 03:17 NMHU. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:15 act.hero wrote:
Destiny is a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. You're allowed to be racist.

It's disgusting that people think it's okay to try to force others to act a certain way. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

If Destiny's words hurt you, don't watch his stream. He is a person playing a fucking video game. I hope he continues offending you people, because I want you to continue to be upset. You deserve not to feel good, and I'm glad Destiny exists to cause you this pain.



I don't think that I can agree more with you. Well thought post. QxGDestiny fightingggggg!


You cannot actually think that, in general, "[i]t's disgusting that people think it's okay to try to force others to act in a certain way." That would entail that ANY regulation of others' behavior, either by community norms (say, of politeness) or by legal means (say, making murder illegal) are 'disgusting.' There are plenty of ways that we are forced to behave. I am not 'ashamed' of myself because I want people to be forced not to kill one another. And I do not think that people should be ashamed if they want to stand up and say that they do not accept public use of racist language.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
May 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#1352
This thread is nuts now. Mods piping in to argue with him and mock him, then when they get called out on it they ban? Mods, if you want to set an example, isn't there a better one you should be aiming for? Trolling each other =/= discussion.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
May 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1353
On May 02 2012 03:20 EpiCenteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:18 ChristianGamer wrote:
Is it a coincidence that this has come from an atheistic scumbag with no morals? This is where atheism ends people, disgusting racism covered with "I can do what I want" ideology.

You are a disgusting sinner in the eyes of god Steven "Destiny" Bonnell. I hope you sleep every night knowing you are first in line for a spot in hell you sack of shit.

As someone who is a devout Christian himself, I would just like to point out his post count. Do not think this guy represent's Christians....


Just a troll, probably a 12yo atheist who wants to make Christians look bad. No need to concern yourself over him.
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
May 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1354
On May 02 2012 03:17 zerglingrodeo wrote:
First, I do not think that everyone who is upset with public use of racist language is a 12 year old. If the implication is that it takes a 12 year old (or typical 12 year old characteristics) to be upset with this language, I think that is false as well.

The idea is that any human capable of rational thought over the age of 12 will not become upset at something someone else says. "12 year old" simply means sheltered and / or irrational person, befitting of people who have not lived in this world very long.

Think of it as a concession I'm making. Rather than assuming that you people are all autistic, I just assume your childish behavior comes from actually being a child. That's pretty nice of me to do.

Second, I do not think that people who want to publicly decry the use of this language need to have an opinion on whether Destiny "gives a fuck about them". Whether or not he even notices the thread, the thread could still have a good effect.

The point of the thread (as evidenced by the OP), has nothing to do with language. OP preemptively GGed, he's pretty obviously a douchebag. He made this thread to +1 his e-cock because he made Destiny mad, kind of like people posting IdrA rage screens.

On the topic of actual censorship and restriction of free speech, as explained above, pretty much anyone who isn't suffering from Aspergers, and is over the age of 12 isn't going to care about something a video game player types in a ladder match.

User was temp banned for this post.
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:24:53
May 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1355
On May 02 2012 03:19 zefreak wrote:
Journalists are jailed in Russia, North Korea is keeping its own people in poverty while constantly threatening stability in the region, portions of Africa are ruled by roving gangs and warlords while the civilian population is exiled or slaughtered and this is what gets you assholes to turn off the tv and start writing emails 'for change'?


Great post. Seriously, people are TRIPPIN.

User was warned for this post
EG-TL!
pirsq
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia145 Posts
May 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1356
On May 02 2012 03:21 Fliparoni wrote:
For those of us that want to email Razer and/or Quantic, anyone here know the relevant e-mail adresses that we can send our complaints to?

http://www.razersupport.com/index.php?_m=tickets&_a=submit
Select "Public Relations - USA"

User was temp banned for this post.
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States508 Posts
May 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1357
Can't believe people are trying to cry to the sponsors again. I thought that was the most important lesson taken from the orb controversy-- don't fucking involve the sponsors it's not worth it and does a lot more harm than good.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:25:40
May 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1358
Is it me, or is it ironic that this is just increasing Destiny's hype and exposure?

He's like the Southpark of eSports, /swoon
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#1359
On May 02 2012 03:11 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:05 KristianJS wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:03 Stiluz wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:52 KristianJS wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:47 TheChostoProject wrote:
This is totally outrageous, If we want our community to grow we need to start thinking before talking/posting. We need to take special care on the selection of words we use when we want to insult/offend someone. I mean, we want them to feel bad but not too bad.

Here's a list of words we all should eliminate because some people's feelings might get hurt beyond our original intention of hurting them.

faggot - offensive to the gay community
nigger - offensive to the black community
gook - offensive to asians(?)
spic - offensive to hispanics
retarded - offensive to mentally challenged
rape - offensive to rape victims
snipe - offensive to war veterans
nuke - offensive to descendants of hiroshima survivors
grammar nazi - offensive to descendants of concentration camp survivors
murdered - offensive to people who've experienced death in family
cancer on the community - offensive to people who've suffered from cancer


Also, don't do drugs and eat vegetables, ok?



The fact that you are comparing the offensiveness of the word "murdered" to people who've experienced murder in the family, with words like "faggot" and "nigger" is completely absurd. There were not millions of people enslaved and systematically abused on the basis that someone in their family had been murdered. People don't get beaten to death on account of them being a Hiroshima survivor. They do for "being a faggot".



Actually, I've lived in Japan, and study Japan as part of my studies. Nuclear survivors from Hiroshima and Nagasaki are systematically discriminated in Japan, and talking about nukes as something casually, is absolutely not taken lightly in regards to people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His points can be said to be valid, especially about nukes. I don't agree with the motion of "being offended" by specific words myself.



Oh, really? That's enlightening, thanks.

The main point however is that words like "faggot" and "nigger" and "gook" are derogatory BY DEFINITION. Words like "nuke" or "murder" are neutral without context.


I don't even think young people in the US see faggot as offensive anymore. It's just become a general way to insult someone in the past few years. In high school everything was 'gay' and everyone needed to stop acting like 'faggots'



I know several gay people, and they do not find the word "faggot" to be particularly pleasant, to put it mildly.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:25:25
May 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#1360
Why does Orb get fired for this but everyone defends Destiny for it / loves him for it? It's the exact same thing...
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