EPTOn May 01 2012 23:49 lolspoon wrote:
Destiny must laugh really a lot right now, and he is not the only one
Destiny must laugh really a lot right now, and he is not the only one
I agree, all those kids crying makes the thread stupid.
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Bellazuk
Canada146 Posts
I agree, all those kids crying makes the thread stupid. | ||
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Myrddraal
Australia937 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:36 partisan wrote: Don't you think this sort of thing is better off being policed by the community? It's important for pressure to be put on these teams to remove players that hurt the community through their own actions. The sponsors will hear about it one way or another if nothing is done. It's our job to make sure that doesn't happen if possible. Being policed by the community is absolutely not what should happen, that has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Tell the team and let them decide if you really want to try to make something happen or tournament organizers if you really want to go above the team. Words and insults do not hurt the community unless the community makes them (ie. making them into a huge deal and doing stupid things like complaining to sponsors.) Why don't we just let the community police our countries? Because ultimately the community is not fit for making such decisions and should not have the power to do such, unfortunately in these cases the community does have power, but they are still not fit for making decisions. | ||
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skrjabin
United States46 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote: To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler + and other places I suppose Blows my mind. and edit: I think people who get made need to make the differentiation between the race or what is taken advantage of, and their opponent. Get mad at what you lost to, not the person >< My friend, you are extrapolating too much from this. In no way, shape, or form (or alternate universe) can the language usage of some slightly racist, moderately popular figure, in a largely unknown, niche sub-culture, be applied to the universal 'ignorance of America ... And other countries, too.' The words are ugly and horrible, yes. We have Free speech (thank god)and he is free to exercise that, but I reiterate again, that he will eventually be the victim of his own actions. Let's agree that the language is deplorable, but also be realistic about his position in the community. He is a non-issue, and if he keeps this up, he will just fade further and further from the spotlight. | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:44 Zennith wrote: Guys, the issue here is that there's absolutely a double standard. If ANY other player acted like this, they'd be in a hell of a lot of trouble. Because it is Destiny, and he's known for it, somehow that makes it okay? It really shouldn't. Yes there is a double standard... but yes, that is how things work. Suppose you bump into someone while walking down the street, he says "watch it, you worthless piece of trash". You look up and see that it's President Obama. You would feel insulted and think that his actions were extremely inappropriate. Now suppose you bump into someone on the street, she says "watch it, you worthless piece of trash". You look up and see Snooki from the Jersey Shore. You wouldn't feel offended, you would realize that the opinion of some drunken person of low value does not mean very much, and that kind of behavior is to be expected from them. | ||
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Grend
1600 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:47 partisan wrote: Clever enough to not use the word illegal. You missed that part. Both of your posts are kind of hard to understand but Germany actually have rather strict laws when it comes to furthering nazi beliefs and spreading false information about the Holocaust. Haha I just realized he was also being called a faggot and for some reason that is pretty much being ignored. Is not that a double standard and hypocritical and so forth by the critics too? If people are okay with people throwing around gay slurs while not being okay with racial slurs then that really confuses me. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
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thingULTRA
United States48 Posts
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Auren
United States82 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:33 Myrddraal wrote: Can people please stop suggesting/considering complaining to the sponsors? I honestly could not give a single fuck whether anyone is offended by anyone else's comments, on either side of the (any) situation, but if you bring the sponsors into it you are the one responsible for genuinely damaging Esports. Sponsors are what make Esports possible, and if you do anything to drive them away in any shape or form you are not just hurting the player or the team, but Esports as a whole. And don't say: "Oh but if he didn't act this way, we wouldn't respond this way", if you don't like the behaviour of a player or team, simply don't support them. Do whatever else you want, I don't really care, but leave Esports out of it. Exactly what I wanted to say. Is there a more sure-fire way to destroy esports/competitive sc2 than to go crying and bitching to the sponsors everytime? What is even the point of the team if you just ignore them and try to force their hand? It's beyond idiotic. I'm not defending destiny for the stuff he says but jesus people, stop giving quantic/destiny attention or contact the team if you have a problem and let them deal with it. Bitching at the sponsors is not the right solution. Sure, you may get the result you want(which is for quantic to drop him I assume) but you're also going to damage the community and every time you idiots do that shit you make sponsors less and less likely to want to put money into the sc2 scene. Stop it. It should not have been done with the orb/eg situation either. What should have happened was contacting EG and letting them deal with the situation... instead you idiots went over their heads to the sponsors and gave EG only one option. Can we at least allow the teams an opportunity to have the choice of punishing a player/caster/whatever before instant firing the guy? Please? Isn't part of the entire point of the teams to make those kinds of decisions? Or are we just a community that can't give someone a second chance when they fuck up? Granted, I realize that isn't entirely relevant to destiny in particular but I'm speaking in general here. If you go and bitch at sponsors, fuck you. | ||
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:51 Grend wrote: Both of your posts are kind of hard to understand but Germany actually have rather strict laws when it comes to furthering nazi beliefs and spreading false information about the Holocaust. Godwin's law hard at work here people!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:48 partisan wrote: Nope. I'm saying racial/ethnic/homophobic slurs will cause issues with the growth of the community, regardless of who says them. What about a useless post meant to defame a public figure while hidding its true purpose under a political correct theme. I think that would be a greater threat to the community? So if you guys keep up with this we might get to a point where people are so affraid of saying anything becuase of the horde of angry jealous dramaqueens who would rather want to create drama instead of watching starcraft games. | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
who cares, grow up. People on the outside looking in on eSports and more importantly Starcraft 2 do. Some professionalism has to be shown, from Destiny especially. If you want eSports to be taken seriously, you have to act professional while in the work enviroment. In this case it would be on the online ladder. Look at what happened to Ozzie Guillen on the Marlins a few weeks ago about some of his choice words. Though eSports isn't as big as the MLB, its getting bigger and bigger every year and players need to learn that more and more people are looking up to them. All I'm saying is BM is fine to a certain degree, but once the racial/ethnic slurs start popping out, the gloves come off for some people. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:44 FliedLice wrote: Pretty much this. I'm pretty sure any german speaking person has been the victim of this online at some point.. Just lol and move on. Of course, because he or you or me are just a noname in the society. People don't care about what we are doing. If we say bad word, people will just consider us retard. But if Obama, Justin Beiber say it, people are going to be all over it, because they're community figures. If you say Destiny is not community figure and can do whatever he wants, then fine, let's act like he's not community figure and defeature him. | ||
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exterminatus
Korea (North)142 Posts
but "nigger" is not? | ||
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jimbob615
Uruguay455 Posts
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manloveman
424 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
If HuK or Ret starts saying racial slurs all over the place, I'm sure the public outcry would be totally different. And that's just the way it is. | ||
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Eisregen
Germany967 Posts
I didnt care about the words Orb used somewhere in the past or present, I dont care what Destiny uses. What I care and wonder about is this horrible community full of twisted morals and standards made up by idiots. This community should grow some balls and a thicker skin asap. God, if I cut myself for every insult I recieved over the inet so far, I'd be some tasty steak already. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7290 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:50 partisan wrote: I live in an area that is fairly diverse. Racial slurs are a huge deal. I'm curious as to where you live if you say that's not the case there. I live in a rural, redneck town in Virginia that has a fairly diverse population, lots of hispanics, blacks, and whites, with some asians. Its not an issue here. At all. | ||
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Syrupjuice
United States173 Posts
I was never in favor of the harsh consequences that got slapped onto Orb, so I don't really care what gets said on Destiny's stream. | ||
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