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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
April 26 2012 18:49 GMT
#901
Well, if the rumours are true, I imagine the next wave of BW pros making the switch will drown a lot of nerds.
twitch.tv/duttroach
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
April 26 2012 18:51 GMT
#902
oh this will really happen
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 19:19:36
April 26 2012 18:52 GMT
#903
On April 27 2012 03:20 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 03:17 Vul wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:55 blade55555 wrote:
Now to hope Jaedong sticks to zerg and enjoys the game to


This is what I'm waiting on, the SC2 scene is lacking top Zergs right now. I'm pleasantly surprised that Fantasy is switching to Zerg though


I really hope Bisu can be persuaded to play P... otherwise it ain't looking to bright for us Brotoss.


That could be an interesting story line though because Protoss are doing so well lately as it is. The whole "can these BW bonjwas (Flash, Bisu, Jaedong-- T, T, Z) who all happen to play T and Z in SC2, dominate GSL players like Parting, Squirtle, MC, Oz, Genius, who all happen to play P?"

Of course, that ignores players like MVP, MMA, DRG, Nestea, etc. but it's interesting to me that a lot of the top SC2 players right now play P, but none of the BW bonjwas who are switching over play P. (If they switch over!)

Also, to be honest I'm not as aware of many BW players who play Protoss other than Bisu. Who do you guys think would be the best BW Protoss who could still play P in SC2 if they were to switch?

Just to get an idea of who's at the top of the BW scene right now, here's the player list and race of everyone who qualified for the OSL earlier this month:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328812

(Z)RorO, (Z)Action, (Z)Alone, (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey, (Z)herO[jOin], (Z)ZerO (Z)Calm, (Z)hyvaa, (Z)Killer, (Z)Hyuk,
(Z)Jaedong, (Z)Modesty, (Z)Shine, (Z)Hydra, (Z)n.Die_soO

(T)Rush, (T)Bogus, (T)Last, (T)BaBy, (T)Flash, (T)HiyA, (T)Sea, (T)Fantasy

(P)Grape, (P)mini, (P)Horang2, (P)Stork, (P)JangBi

---

I accidentally left the 4 players who qualified from last year's OSL off the list, that's why JangBi wasn't there, oops. Also, (P)Bisu didn't qualify =(

In response to my own question I guess I would say Stork or JangBi just based on how popular I know they are--JangBi won the last OSL in 2011 and I did get to see the VODs of that. But I don't watch much BW outside of like RO8 and onwards OSL VODs (and MSL back in the day).
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 19:00:40
April 26 2012 18:59 GMT
#904
I don't think you can be as dominant in sc2 bc its so easy to lose to someone way less skilled..but I know flash will be amazing.

Take MKPs control and timings
Take Partings Caster control
Take Nestea/MVPs Macro God Brain Power
Take DRGs mechanics
Take MMAs decision making/mind games

This combined is a player the caliber of Flash...Whether it takes 2 months or 1 year...Flash has these talents and will no doubt be a force in Sc2 based on this alone.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 19:03:59
April 26 2012 19:03 GMT
#905
On April 27 2012 03:52 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 03:20 SeaSwift wrote:
On April 27 2012 03:17 Vul wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:55 blade55555 wrote:
Now to hope Jaedong sticks to zerg and enjoys the game to


This is what I'm waiting on, the SC2 scene is lacking top Zergs right now. I'm pleasantly surprised that Fantasy is switching to Zerg though


Also, to be honest I'm not as aware of many BW players who play Protoss other than Bisu. Who do you guys think would be the best BW Protoss who could still play P in SC2 if they were to switch?


Style-wise maybe (P)Horang2? If (P)free was still relevant id throw him in the pool but the way he is right now i doubt it.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
April 26 2012 19:18 GMT
#906
I am excited to see how BW will do. I consider SC2 a different game, RTS with same races but with whole new gameplay. I have no idea how BW players will do, and I don't want guess. My only wish is, for them to mix up the field, GSL players with Kespa and maybe 1-2 foreigner seeds (like in GSL) and group stages not a bracket. It will be horrible if BW progamers play only among themselves, it would stir up shitstorms beyond my imagination when people try to explain which one is better without at least some amount of heads up games. "omg omg that marine stutter step, it would kill gsl players in a second omg omg" "lol u stupid it was nice but not that incredible" etc etc
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
April 26 2012 19:18 GMT
#907
I hope Bisu doesn't go terran =[ Protoss needs a new hero!
Team Captain for FXO.NA Follow me on twitter @FXOkarmy
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
April 26 2012 19:25 GMT
#908
For those thinking the 2 years deficit will be hard for Flash to overcome, think about this.

Flash started playing Starcraft when he was 12. He was obviously not a full time pro, and his parents wanted him to finish school. If he were able to obtain a progaming license within his first few courage tournaments, he would be able to continue. Flash miraculously achieved this feat first time, something Jaedong took a year to do.

By the age of 15, he won his first starleague and by 2010, he was God.

It took 3 years for Flash to turn from newbie to 15 year old Starcraft genius. How long will it take him to turn from Bw bonjwa and God, into sc2 amazing player. Probs not long.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 26 2012 19:27 GMT
#909
If flash plays, IPL king of the hill, fight club, will be at least a 50 week streak of flash constantly winning.
liftlift > tsm
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
April 26 2012 19:33 GMT
#910
dear god, its really happening.

flash is going to destroyyyyyy nerds.
I love crazymoving
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 26 2012 19:34 GMT
#911
On April 27 2012 04:25 Micket wrote:
For those thinking the 2 years deficit will be hard for Flash to overcome, think about this.

Flash started playing Starcraft when he was 12. He was obviously not a full time pro, and his parents wanted him to finish school. If he were able to obtain a progaming license within his first few courage tournaments, he would be able to continue. Flash miraculously achieved this feat first time, something Jaedong took a year to do.

By the age of 15, he won his first starleague and by 2010, he was God.

It took 3 years for Flash to turn from newbie to 15 year old Starcraft genius. How long will it take him to turn from Bw bonjwa and God, into sc2 amazing player. Probs not long.


I really hate these "he was god" references but to respond to your post a bit, when he played bw when he was 12 it was his first time playing an rts competitively (this is assumption obviously). The first game is going to be the hardest,I highly, highly doubt it's going to take him 2 years to get good at sc2, more like a few months along with jaedong and all those gosu bw pro's. I imagine a couple months and they will be super good (this is assuming they play as much as they do bw in terms of how much they practice).

There's a difference between playing an rts like bw for the first time, then playing an rts that is very similar to bw in terms of macro, expanding and the only difference being new units and what they can and can't do just the macro part being a lot easier then in bw obviously.

I am just imagining the flash vs jaedong in sc2, continue their rivalry. In bw they are very even (record is like 25-24 favoring flash lol). Wonder how it'll be in sc2

When I think of something else, something will go here
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
April 26 2012 19:34 GMT
#912
If BW players don't make the game less boring blizzard better be putting out an amazing expansion.
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
April 26 2012 19:36 GMT
#913
so happy to hear that he is enjoying learning the new game! yay !!!
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
April 26 2012 19:38 GMT
#914
On April 27 2012 03:59 Irre wrote:
I don't think you can be as dominant in sc2 bc its so easy to lose to someone way less skilled..but I know flash will be amazing.

Take MKPs control and timings
Take Partings Caster control
Take Nestea/MVPs Macro God Brain Power
Take DRGs mechanics
Take MMAs decision making/mind games

This combined is a player the caliber of Flash...Whether it takes 2 months or 1 year...Flash has these talents and will no doubt be a force in Sc2 based on this alone.


I hope that is true and it will be interesting to see how much of that he can actually do if he really switches. I generally like the fact that in SC2 you cannot gain as much advantage over your opponent as in BW by simply being able to click buttons faster than him.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
April 26 2012 19:43 GMT
#915
Funny this information comes up, with Blizzard-KeSPA-OGN-GOM SC2 Announcement May 2nd. Coincidence maybe.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
scissorhands
Profile Joined July 2011
United States68 Posts
April 26 2012 19:44 GMT
#916
There's an interesting quote from an article where the BW head coaches discussed their players' transition into SC2. One quote was pretty interesting:

Stars Coach Lee: I first thought that the better players in SC1 would be better players in SC2, but it didn’t hold true for everyone. It’s more of a case-by-case thing. Some players are only good at SC1, some only at SC2, and some are good at both. In any case, I’m confident that practice will make up for the gaps. Honestly, some of the players that were, let’s say, terrible at SC1, are now absolutely demolishing others in SC2. We all started at the same time, but already we’re seeing skill differences.


Based on that, it seems pointless to argue who's going to be good and who isn't. But the operative word from the quote is "practice," which we know Flash will do in spades. So whatever mojo that made Flash what he is in SC1 isn't necessarily going to make him a god in SC2, but at least we know his perseverence and hard-work "may" overcome any deficiencies he might have in SC2.

Article: http://notyuna.parkjiyeon.net/post/21468962777/sc2-discussion-with-kespa-progaming-team-coaches
TL Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806
Xodushai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden174 Posts
April 26 2012 19:46 GMT
#917
yay! Go terran all the way flash!
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5673 Posts
April 26 2012 19:46 GMT
#918
On April 27 2012 04:38 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 03:59 Irre wrote:
I don't think you can be as dominant in sc2 bc its so easy to lose to someone way less skilled..but I know flash will be amazing.

Take MKPs control and timings
Take Partings Caster control
Take Nestea/MVPs Macro God Brain Power
Take DRGs mechanics
Take MMAs decision making/mind games

This combined is a player the caliber of Flash...Whether it takes 2 months or 1 year...Flash has these talents and will no doubt be a force in Sc2 based on this alone.


I hope that is true and it will be interesting to see how much of that he can actually do if he really switches. I generally like the fact that in SC2 you cannot gain as much advantage over your opponent as in BW by simply being able to click buttons faster than him.


Because that's the case in BW...
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
April 26 2012 19:49 GMT
#919
Seriously tho, just thinking about Flash and Bisu playing Terran in sc2 is kinda wicked. I mean, Flash and Bisu is on pair with MKP when it comes to control and they have waaaaay better multitasking than say MMA and DRG who are known to be the best multitaskers in the scene right now. If they play bio in TvZ man, holy fucking fuck. O_O
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 26 2012 19:51 GMT
#920
Mark my words - Flash will be the popularizer of Mech in TvP
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