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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 24 2012 13:11 GMT
#141
Yeah it's a pretty elaborate story but this is Arizona..right?
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
April 24 2012 13:24 GMT
#142
this country makes me sick to my stomach, and some idiots still trry to make us believe this is the example to follow, that's hilarious. how many cases of power abuse do we have to show before people stop with saying "stop bashing our country omg omg omg!!" and start wondering in what kind of sick society they are living in.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#143
So according to the article he should be sentenced in about three hours?
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
April 24 2012 13:32 GMT
#144
Sometimes I really hate calling myself an American, not always, but times like these...seriously people.
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Opeasy
Profile Joined August 2011
107 Posts
April 24 2012 13:34 GMT
#145
Spending the rest of your life in jail because you broke someones toe just doesn't sound right with me. Of course he freaks out when he got an angry mob trying to, and successfully hurting him. I wonder if the guy who punched him gets the same sentence, because, you could kill someone by punching them in the nose. Could this be the reason US has one of the highest ratios of prisoners pr. citizen? It just might be....
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
April 24 2012 13:43 GMT
#146
Things like this make me ashamed to live here. The court system so often is used to appease rather than bring justice, it's shameful.
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
April 24 2012 13:44 GMT
#147
On April 24 2012 18:24 haduken wrote:
Don't want to be a dick but I'm curious. Could the story of the Norwegian psycho from months before had any influence on this?

I highly doubt that. It was one terrible incident and currently the trial is going on in a very professional way.

Shit like this story here pops up fairly often and is the reason why so much US-bashing is going on. Just look through the general section, every 5th thread will probably be about some case of american police violence/injustice or some crazy new law (hi arizona). The whole story sounds very biased, but just watching the video and how the police handles stuff tells me everything i need to know.

The norwegian clearly was breaking the law in some way or another, but 5-35 years?
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
April 24 2012 13:51 GMT
#148
On April 24 2012 21:11 kukarachaa wrote:
the story is presented with extreme bias towards one side, that said no matter how u sugarcoat it he still slammed his gas in the crowd full of people and injured two of them i am sure there is way more to this as well


Yeah. The bias in the writing is absurd. It makes him seem like such a victim. Who cares why he is in the states or why he got a rental car. The fact is that he ran over someone almost hit someone's family and fled the scene.
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 14:30:50
April 24 2012 13:56 GMT
#149
What is with my country? this is absolutely unacceptable if i was in that guys situation i don't know what i would do... this makes me wanna call the jail hes in and give him support! no one deserves this bullshit he did absolutely NOTHING wrong only panicked because he was being attacked by a fucking mob, they should arrest all the retards that were surrounding his car, i would say this is a fucking hate crime and the state is taking action against the wrong person.

I don't give a fuck if you thought your wife and kids were "gonna get run over" the guy that broke his nose should be doing the sentence, you don't just walk up and punch somebody in the face while they are steering an automobile, how in the fuck does that even help the situation?! Fuck the people in Arizona bunch of bastards i hope they all go to jail for tenfold of what this guy got... there's just no excuse for this, EVERYBODY makes mistakes! just because you have a group against you doesn't mean state law has to persecute you, this man deserves justice NOW!

Edit: lol tons of spelling mistakes i ranted a little bit too much xD
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Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
April 24 2012 13:56 GMT
#150
Poor guy. =/

Just seems like crappy luck put him into a lose-lose situation.. and here we are now.

Jaedong!
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 14:00:22
April 24 2012 13:57 GMT
#151
Just read that he's already "proven" guilty and that he will get sentenced in a couple of hours..

Considered dangerous

VG presented the story of 33-year-old who is imprisoned in Navajo County Jail on Monday. There, he is considered one of the most dangerous prisoners, and mets with VG in anklets and handcuffs in prison.

- "The treatment I receive here in prison is based on what I have been arrested for, not what I am convicted of, as long as I have not measured the penalty. The conditions here are pretty bad for me right now. I can get out of my cell three times per week, one hour each time, to take me a shower and maybe read the documents. Otherwise, I'm inside the cell, which has a toilet, a sink and a mat to sleep on", says Lars farm.
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
April 24 2012 14:00 GMT
#152
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.

Err, link is there now if it wasn't before you posted, and yeah, our media is stupid but I wouldn't call it a pile of horseshit.
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Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 14:05:20
April 24 2012 14:03 GMT
#153
... weird doublepost
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 14:04:35
April 24 2012 14:04 GMT
#154
On April 24 2012 22:51 arfyron wrote:
The fact is that he ran over someone almost hit someone's family and fled the scene.

After someone broke his nose, and after he "fled" he called the cops and said he had been attacked.

Yeah, clearly sounds like an attempted mass murderer trying to kill people.
The article may be biased, but even if everything is true it wouldn't really surprise me, there's crazy shit like this all the time.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
April 24 2012 14:05 GMT
#155
Seems highly unlikely he would try to injure or kill people with his car when his mother is sitting right next to him in the car.

He's just a bad driver it seems like.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 24 2012 14:07 GMT
#156
On April 24 2012 22:56 FlyingToilet wrote:
What is with my country? this is absolutely unacceptable if i was in that guys situation i don't what i would do... this makes me wanna call the jail hes in and give him support! no one deserves this bullshit he did absolutely NOTHING wrong only panicked because he was being attacked by a fucking mob, they should arrest all the retards that were surrounding his car, i would say this is a fucking hate crime and the state is taking action against the wrong person.

I don't give a fuck if you thought your wife and kids were "gonna get run over" the guy that broke his nose should be doing the sentence, you don't just walk up and punch somebody in the face while they are steering an automobile, how in the fuck does that even help situation?! Fuck the people in Arizona bunch of bastards i hope they all go to jail for tenfold of what this guy got... there's just no excuse for this, EVERYBODY makes mistakes! just because you have a group against you doesn't mean state law has to persecute you, this man deserves justice NOW!

English, do you speak it? He hit 6 people with his car, that counts as doing something wrong. If the it really happened the way the article states (unlikely), then his sentence is way harsh and a fine would have been way more than enough. I would wait until more than one news story is available before jumping to such extreme judgement.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 14:10:13
April 24 2012 14:09 GMT
#157
On April 24 2012 22:51 arfyron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 21:11 kukarachaa wrote:
the story is presented with extreme bias towards one side, that said no matter how u sugarcoat it he still slammed his gas in the crowd full of people and injured two of them i am sure there is way more to this as well


Yeah. The bias in the writing is absurd. It makes him seem like such a victim. Who cares why he is in the states or why he got a rental car. The fact is that he ran over someone almost hit someone's family and fled the scene.


It's ignorant people like you that get innocent people to jail.

You have to think further than just..... "ok he clearly drove over that persons toe.......... DEATHSENTENCE!!!".
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
April 24 2012 14:11 GMT
#158
On April 24 2012 23:07 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 22:56 FlyingToilet wrote:
What is with my country? this is absolutely unacceptable if i was in that guys situation i don't what i would do... this makes me wanna call the jail hes in and give him support! no one deserves this bullshit he did absolutely NOTHING wrong only panicked because he was being attacked by a fucking mob, they should arrest all the retards that were surrounding his car, i would say this is a fucking hate crime and the state is taking action against the wrong person.

I don't give a fuck if you thought your wife and kids were "gonna get run over" the guy that broke his nose should be doing the sentence, you don't just walk up and punch somebody in the face while they are steering an automobile, how in the fuck does that even help situation?! Fuck the people in Arizona bunch of bastards i hope they all go to jail for tenfold of what this guy got... there's just no excuse for this, EVERYBODY makes mistakes! just because you have a group against you doesn't mean state law has to persecute you, this man deserves justice NOW!

English, do you speak it? He hit 6 people with his car, that counts as doing something wrong. If the it really happened the way the article states (unlikely), then his sentence is way harsh and a fine would have been way more than enough. I would wait until more than one news story is available before jumping to such extreme judgement.

He does, do you? He grazed on person and run over another persons toe. After being punched in the face and having his nose broken.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
April 24 2012 14:12 GMT
#159
I dont know whether to laugh or be angry. This is just so surreal. :o
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xian_
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany12 Posts
April 24 2012 14:12 GMT
#160
On April 24 2012 19:24 treekiller wrote:

As for the punishment, I doubt he will get 35 years in jail. In America, you are usually charged with a more serious crime, to give an incentive to plead to a lesser charge. Even the greater charge here seems to be 5 years. Thats why in the George Zimmerman case they charged him with 2nd degree murder. they hope he will plead guilty to manslaughter. They dont actually think he should be charged with murder.



Wow, do i get that right: The suspect is threatend with decades in jail to get an incentive to plead to lesser charge? And that is called a justice system? Is that done to speed up trails and reduce cost because it's easier for everyone when the suspects pleads guilty?

That sounds like the lightweight version of the Spanish Inquisition - without physical torture. If that is anywhere close to the truth maybe our fellow posters from the US should take the 'bashing' of the US 'justice' system as a statement of concern instead. Maybe it can even be an incentive to get active and try to improve the system?

Oh - and about the "without physical torture"-part: What about that little camp on Cuba again? Excuse me. Not part of this thread...
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