EPTNorwegian student risks 35 years in jail in the US - Page 9
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
On April 24 2012 23:07 feanor1 wrote: English, do you speak it? He hit 6 people with his car, that counts as doing something wrong. If the it really happened the way the article states (unlikely), then his sentence is way harsh and a fine would have been way more than enough. I would wait until more than one news story is available before jumping to such extreme judgement. He hit 6 people because they surrounded his car like hateful morons, How in the hell is it this guy's fault? he followed his moms orders i wouldn't get out and try to reason with an angry mob either! and nice insult, at least try harder next time... Only reason i am actually appalled about this is because the witnesses were the ones who jumped to conclusions, and now all this tax payers money is wasted because they wanna charge a completely innocent man, why not just fine him? | ||
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vOkk
Belgium576 Posts
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mbsupermario
United States101 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On April 24 2012 23:29 mbsupermario wrote: I want to go to Norway and try to re-enact this scenario with the roles reversed. Any bets on whether or not I go to jail? No, all the people in this thread making themselves look stupid will show up at court and demand you be released and talk mad shit on Norway. Don't worry, they'll be 100% consistent. And since you'll have a record in Norway for stalking like this guy does in the US (he caused a family to move from Alabama to Chicago because he was stalking their daughter and then whaddayaknow he shows up in Chicago shortly after they move) and you drove through the crowd not once but twice they'll actually reimburse you for the repairs to your car and probably give you a medal too instead of throwing the book at you for being a dangerous dumbass. | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On April 24 2012 23:29 mbsupermario wrote: I want to go to Norway and try to re-enact this scenario with the roles reversed. Any bets on whether or not I go to jail? I bet you probably would, and America would still be at fault somehow.... At the end of the day, this is just another F-USA thread =[ | ||
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SilentBonjwa
Germany119 Posts
sucks to be convicted on US court. | ||
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Hellboy.100
Slovenia135 Posts
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Driving with a car into a crowd can definatly and and rightfully be seen as asault with a deadly weapon, though off course it depends on specific conditions In the netherlands 1 guy killed ~7 people by deliberatly driving into a crowd on a national holiday. We now did hear Johns version of the events but surely there is another version of the events from the people in the crowd, wich version is true is up to the judge to decide. and in September the same year his school kicked him out because he might be a terrorist This small sentence in the op makes me think that there is at least something suspicious about this john. Annyway: cant realy judge this and luckily i dont have to either as i have no jury duty  "TL has a lot of bored Europeans who have nothing better to do than troll US local news for things that show Americans in a bad light" Lol this is kinda true | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 Didn't save fully, just use Larsgard as the last name. Should give you the list, most relievant is the 4th one down. + Show Spoiler + 5 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST 6 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST 7 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST 8 ENDANGERMENT 16 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST 17 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST 18 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST 21 AGGRAVATED ASLT-DEADLY WEAPON/DANG INST Are the charges that weren't dismissed. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On April 24 2012 23:48 Irave wrote: Court Information http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 Link doesn't work for me. | ||
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ownyah
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MostDifferent
Norway124 Posts
The person who hit him would face worse charges. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On April 24 2012 22:44 MaGariShun wrote: I highly doubt that. It was one terrible incident and currently the trial is going on in a very professional way. Shit like this story here pops up fairly often and is the reason why so much US-bashing is going on. Just look through the general section, every 5th thread will probably be about some case of american police violence/injustice or some crazy new law (hi arizona). The whole story sounds very biased, but just watching the video and how the police handles stuff tells me everything i need to know. The norwegian clearly was breaking the law in some way or another, but 5-35 years? And if you look at all those threads, most of them aren't started by Americans. TL has a lot of bored Europeans who have nothing better to do than troll US local news for things that show Americans in a bad light. At least this one involves a Norwegian so it's understandable that it made its way to Norway but some of the other threads are just obscure local news. And for what it's worth, most of it are from the stupid hick towns in the US, too. The US is almost as big size wise and population wise as the entire EU. I'm sure that if you aggregate the entire EU, there will be a similar incidence of bad news as well. Of course, it doesn't seem like anybody is interested in posting any of those in TL, except in very rare cases. I'm almost 30 years old. I've taken up a few law classes in business school. I've served in a jury. I have relatives who are lawyers here. The system works for the most part. Just because ignorant foreigners don't like it doesn't mean that it's broken. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On April 24 2012 23:48 ownyah wrote: Can someone keep updated on what has happened ever since? If anything new has happened and what the verdict ends up being? They found him guilty a month ago to the charges listed above. His sentencing is in a few hours. | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
On April 24 2012 23:29 mbsupermario wrote: I want to go to Norway and try to re-enact this scenario with the roles reversed. Any bets on whether or not I go to jail? Ok, I'll bet 10 000 dollars you would not stay there for more then 3 months at maximum ( and that's me being overly dramatic) And when you get to court. And the case is at it is in the states you'd probably get refunded the fine aswell as court costs if a person hit you before you hurt somebody. | ||
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teaCher
Canada521 Posts
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barrocco
Norway2 Posts
Ironic really... one thing I have though about is how he acts so spoiled, through each of the cases. Not "Oh poor me" but "I know the laws, so I use them" kind of reaction, and he is a mamas boy, always in all the cases. I am kinda wondering if the mother got the papper to get over there by making it seem like a terrible thing. In a way it is a overreaction, all of it, that guy is a pussy, and my, my... seems like they throw away cash at agressive police instead of bether things in usa as well. The thing about this doche bag is that he though is not completly inocent in this case. Considering how he always is mindless, that in itself is no problem, but considering that he does not try to do things on his own is kinda irritating. He must have been seen as threatening, but even so minimum of 5 years? For just driving over some womans toes? He was the one calling for the police, and it is obviously a missunderstanding, but he is guilty of harming someone and driving the wrong way, however, the man who hit him harmed him as well, though that man did so on base that his family had been in danger (avenging someone still alive and well, not even harmed in any ways?). If he considered the guy a crazy man I understand that, or if he wanted to punch him to realize how stupid he had been, either way, that escelated the situation in such a way that the guy and mother panic. The guy moved to usa because he hated norway, and now he hate usa as well I figure. Trying to find sympathy with norwegians as if saying "I wanna go home now". Spoiled. He did move a place and so he should live by the rules of the country he is in. I do not think he should be in jail for more than a month or two, or that he should pay back for scaring the people. It is reasonable, for he is not innocent in this case. No mather what you can not just panic and drive through people. He should have stayed in the car, tried to calmly solve the situation without opening the window to much. Being hit might have been provoked by something he said. I am a norwegian who think jail for two months might be okay for this happening, but 5-35 years? Only insane people would throw away cash on prisoning someone who was just driving wrong. It will cost much more to have someone in jail than letting them go, and the cash can be used elsewhere. I consider this reasonable if he can not pay the fine. | ||
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Fumanchu
Canada669 Posts
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