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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 22 2012 11:26 GMT
#6801
you aren't getting phil jackson, and brooks is a fine coach for his pay grade, enough with this stupid banter....a team just won the title and all you can do is play the pity card for yourself.....pathetic.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 11:40:10
June 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#6802
Whoa didn't realize the temperature had gone up so much since I was gone. Still euphoric about Heat's victory, feels good ^_^

Would like to see a Finals rivalry between Miami and OKC spring up in the coming years
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 11:53:49
June 22 2012 11:50 GMT
#6803
On June 22 2012 20:16 thuracine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 19:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yes, they did. That's why they showed the shotclock to the players: Because the shotclock on the court was set at 5, (and would swap to off if OKC got possession). Scott Brooks isn't the greatest coach in the league but that blunder is purely on Westbrook's shoulders, not his. He and his staff informed the team.

I didn't even post the gif. You are, again, talking out of your ass about something you're mad about and asigning blame where it doesn't belong.


Miami only gets 5 on the shot if they win the jump ball. To not inform your players of that is a mistake. Westbrook thought the clock reset and went back to 24


Let me spell this out to you clearly, because you somehow are still not getting what I'm saying. Scott Brooks and his assistant coaches told the players who were going to be on the floor for the jump ball that if Miami gets it back, there will be 5 seconds on the clock. They then made sure every player saw the shotclock had 5 seconds.

Floor reporters confirmed it. ESPN was all over it the morning after. Westbrook took the blame himself because he misunderstood the situation when no one else did. You are making stuff up to blame Scott Brooks who is, at worst, and above average coach.

And even still, this all stems from you saying Miami got lucky and stole a title, when, even if Westbrook does not make that mistake, they've got 12 seconds or less to score 3 points to tie it, which is a less than 30% chance (because setting up an open 3 is not likely with 12 seconds or less, so you can't go by their averages). Then you assume Miami can't score again or can't win in Overtime and this is in ONE GAME of a 4-1 championship.

I hate you so much right now aaaaaaaaaaargh. I give up arguing with you about the eastern conference crap and the refs rigging it and I get drawn in by you blaming your own team INCORRECTLY for why the team lost and just shoot me in the face please.
Remember Violet.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 22 2012 11:54 GMT
#6804
hoping nash gets his next year!
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 12:06:10
June 22 2012 12:05 GMT
#6805
Congrats Heat!! On fire beyond the arc.

I turned it off after Fisher got that flagrant though. Was obvious who would win after seeing that bs.
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
June 22 2012 12:25 GMT
#6806
On June 22 2012 20:26 Holcan wrote:
you aren't getting phil jackson, and brooks is a fine coach for his pay grade, enough with this stupid banter....a team just won the title and all you can do is play the pity card for yourself.....pathetic.


What pity? OKC missed there shots and Scott Brooks made some decisions. If Phill comes back it going to be close to his home in Montana and Scott Brooks turned down a contract. Not to far fenched
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 12:35:10
June 22 2012 12:32 GMT
#6807
...Oklahoma City is not close to Montana.

OKC to Lakeside Montana is +2600 kilometers.
Remember Violet.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 12:33:58
June 22 2012 12:32 GMT
#6808
what pity? you claim miami can't make it out of the west, and that brooks was the reason for the thunders failures, even though his adjustments were the only reason they made it past the spurs to begin with.


brooks will be coaching the thunder next year. this isn't even up for debate, or internet speculation, brooks will be the thunder coach next year.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
June 22 2012 12:38 GMT
#6809
refs were shit. i fucking hate seeing miami get away with murder. its just little things here and there, a flagrant vs fisher, a missed call on durant by james while shooting and then all of a sudden james is on the line....OKC down late AGAIN. harden going 20% from the field in g3/4 didnt help much either i suppose : ( : (

although, how smart is miami to load up on 3 point snipers knowing wade and james pull double teams all night long. i hate miami with all of my heart but that was well done : (
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
June 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#6810
On June 22 2012 20:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 20:16 thuracine wrote:
On June 22 2012 19:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yes, they did. That's why they showed the shotclock to the players: Because the shotclock on the court was set at 5, (and would swap to off if OKC got possession). Scott Brooks isn't the greatest coach in the league but that blunder is purely on Westbrook's shoulders, not his. He and his staff informed the team.

I didn't even post the gif. You are, again, talking out of your ass about something you're mad about and asigning blame where it doesn't belong.


Miami only gets 5 on the shot if they win the jump ball. To not inform your players of that is a mistake. Westbrook thought the clock reset and went back to 24


Let me spell this out to you clearly, because you somehow are still not getting what I'm saying. Scott Brooks and his assistant coaches told the players who were going to be on the floor for the jump ball that if Miami gets it back, there will be 5 seconds on the clock. They then made sure every player saw the shotclock had 5 seconds.

Floor reporters confirmed it. ESPN was all over it the morning after. Westbrook took the blame himself because he misunderstood the situation when no one else did. You are making stuff up to blame Scott Brooks who is, at worst, and above average coach.

And even still, this all stems from you saying Miami got lucky and stole a title, when, even if Westbrook does not make that mistake, they've got 12 seconds or less to score 3 points to tie it, which is a less than 30% chance (because setting up an open 3 is not likely with 12 seconds or less, so you can't go by their averages). Then you assume Miami can't score again or can't win in Overtime and this is in ONE GAME of a 4-1 championship.

I hate you so much right now aaaaaaaaaaargh. I give up arguing with you about the eastern conference crap and the refs rigging it and I get drawn in by you blaming your own team INCORRECTLY for why the team lost and just shoot me in the face please.


Really? The clock doesn't reset to 5 until Miami wins the jump so it stays at 1.7 or w/e it was. As far as refs Fisher 1 flagrant foul 0 technical in his career and league president, thats just one. Blaming Scottt Brooks damn right he made some terrible errors in the finals same for James Harded
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 22 2012 12:55 GMT
#6811
I know harden sucked, I'm one of his biggest critics, but ibaka was also dreadful this series, bad offensive movement, bad spacing on screens, taking shots out of rythym. and his rim presence wasn't as good as it should've been with battier making him pay for sagging, for being their defensive anchor, and what many considered to be dpoy, he really wasny doing much.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 12:59:07
June 22 2012 12:57 GMT
#6812

On June 22 2012 21:53 thuracine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 20:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 22 2012 20:16 thuracine wrote:
On June 22 2012 19:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yes, they did. That's why they showed the shotclock to the players: Because the shotclock on the court was set at 5, (and would swap to off if OKC got possession). Scott Brooks isn't the greatest coach in the league but that blunder is purely on Westbrook's shoulders, not his. He and his staff informed the team.

I didn't even post the gif. You are, again, talking out of your ass about something you're mad about and asigning blame where it doesn't belong.


Miami only gets 5 on the shot if they win the jump ball. To not inform your players of that is a mistake. Westbrook thought the clock reset and went back to 24


Let me spell this out to you clearly, because you somehow are still not getting what I'm saying. Scott Brooks and his assistant coaches told the players who were going to be on the floor for the jump ball that if Miami gets it back, there will be 5 seconds on the clock. They then made sure every player saw the shotclock had 5 seconds.

Floor reporters confirmed it. ESPN was all over it the morning after. Westbrook took the blame himself because he misunderstood the situation when no one else did. You are making stuff up to blame Scott Brooks who is, at worst, and above average coach.

And even still, this all stems from you saying Miami got lucky and stole a title, when, even if Westbrook does not make that mistake, they've got 12 seconds or less to score 3 points to tie it, which is a less than 30% chance (because setting up an open 3 is not likely with 12 seconds or less, so you can't go by their averages). Then you assume Miami can't score again or can't win in Overtime and this is in ONE GAME of a 4-1 championship.

I hate you so much right now aaaaaaaaaaargh. I give up arguing with you about the eastern conference crap and the refs rigging it and I get drawn in by you blaming your own team INCORRECTLY for why the team lost and just shoot me in the face please.


Really? The clock doesn't reset to 5 until Miami wins the jump so it stays at 1.7 or w/e it was. As far as refs Fisher 1 flagrant foul 0 technical in his career and league president, thats just one. Blaming Scottt Brooks damn right he made some terrible errors in the finals same for James Harded


No it doesn't. It's set to 5 so that the shot clock operator can instantly start it if miami gets possession. If OKC gets it it gets turned off because there's only 17 seconds left in the game. The clock that the players look at was at 5. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. There's literally 0 reason for it to be at 0.4 seconds, and there was none, and it wasn't. Stop making things up.

Here is the proof in the top left corner of this video:



Shut up.
Remember Violet.
Brow23
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
June 22 2012 13:01 GMT
#6813
FUCK THE HEAT,FUCK THE HEAT,FUCK THE HEAT!

Most undeserved Champion in the History of this Sport!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 22 2012 13:01 GMT
#6814
Yeah the 2006 Heat were really lucky.
Remember Violet.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 22 2012 13:11 GMT
#6815
On June 22 2012 21:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 21:53 thuracine wrote:
On June 22 2012 20:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 22 2012 20:16 thuracine wrote:
On June 22 2012 19:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yes, they did. That's why they showed the shotclock to the players: Because the shotclock on the court was set at 5, (and would swap to off if OKC got possession). Scott Brooks isn't the greatest coach in the league but that blunder is purely on Westbrook's shoulders, not his. He and his staff informed the team.

I didn't even post the gif. You are, again, talking out of your ass about something you're mad about and asigning blame where it doesn't belong.


Miami only gets 5 on the shot if they win the jump ball. To not inform your players of that is a mistake. Westbrook thought the clock reset and went back to 24


Let me spell this out to you clearly, because you somehow are still not getting what I'm saying. Scott Brooks and his assistant coaches told the players who were going to be on the floor for the jump ball that if Miami gets it back, there will be 5 seconds on the clock. They then made sure every player saw the shotclock had 5 seconds.

Floor reporters confirmed it. ESPN was all over it the morning after. Westbrook took the blame himself because he misunderstood the situation when no one else did. You are making stuff up to blame Scott Brooks who is, at worst, and above average coach.

And even still, this all stems from you saying Miami got lucky and stole a title, when, even if Westbrook does not make that mistake, they've got 12 seconds or less to score 3 points to tie it, which is a less than 30% chance (because setting up an open 3 is not likely with 12 seconds or less, so you can't go by their averages). Then you assume Miami can't score again or can't win in Overtime and this is in ONE GAME of a 4-1 championship.

I hate you so much right now aaaaaaaaaaargh. I give up arguing with you about the eastern conference crap and the refs rigging it and I get drawn in by you blaming your own team INCORRECTLY for why the team lost and just shoot me in the face please.


Really? The clock doesn't reset to 5 until Miami wins the jump so it stays at 1.7 or w/e it was. As far as refs Fisher 1 flagrant foul 0 technical in his career and league president, thats just one. Blaming Scottt Brooks damn right he made some terrible errors in the finals same for James Harded


No it doesn't. It's set to 5 so that the shot clock operator can instantly start it if miami gets possession. If OKC gets it it gets turned off because there's only 17 seconds left in the game. The clock that the players look at was at 5. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. There's literally 0 reason for it to be at 0.4 seconds, and there was none, and it wasn't. Stop making things up.

Here is the proof in the top left corner of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdKxFWCRoc

Shut up.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
what now?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 22 2012 13:20 GMT
#6816
Does that one merit a boom shakalaka? :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13113 Posts
June 22 2012 13:24 GMT
#6817
On June 22 2012 18:35 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 16:33 Gladiator MG wrote:
On June 22 2012 16:21 RowdierBob wrote:
On June 22 2012 15:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Best all around playoff run from a single player that I can remember seeing since Shaq. Lebron earned this win, as did the rest of the Heat. Played out of their mind.


It's interesting to compare LeBron's play in this year's finals to Dirk's last year. Whose performance was better?

LeBron: 30.5p, 9.7r, 3a (this year)
Dirk: 27.7p, 8.1r, 2.5a (last year)

LeBron's a better player: let's not argue that. But who was the more influential player/had the better playoff run?

I'm leaning towards Dirk, but I'm sure I'll get howled down for that. The Mavs had one of the most incredible Playoff runs that I can remember. Dirk was so ridiculously clutch in all the games he played during that.

What's your vote?


I think your averages are off.

LeBron had 28.5, 10.2 and 7.4 in 5
Dirk Had 26.0, 9.7 and 2.0 in 6

I am going to have to go with LeBron just because Dirk was never under constant media pressure like LeBron has been ever since he joined Miami.


lebron definitely had the better playoff run. he showed up every single game unlike last year. definitely proved himself to the haters and doubters (i was kind of a doubter but now i believe).
dunno about influential cause dirk was crazy but i do believe that lebron played a large part in the role players' success in the playoffs; especially battier and chalmers. we also had cole/miller play great in the finals (miller out of his mind) and haslem also showed success overall in the playoffs.


Gotta remember Dirk didn't have anyone like the calibre of Wade and/or Bosh playing with him last year.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13113 Posts
June 22 2012 13:27 GMT
#6818
On June 22 2012 21:55 Holcan wrote:
I know harden sucked, I'm one of his biggest critics, but ibaka was also dreadful this series, bad offensive movement, bad spacing on screens, taking shots out of rythym. and his rim presence wasn't as good as it should've been with battier making him pay for sagging, for being their defensive anchor, and what many considered to be dpoy, he really wasny doing much.


I think he struggled playing out of position with his D. He really prefers being that help/weakside defender working with Perkins, but with Battier playing PF and shooting so well he was dragged away from the pain. And given Miami didn't much of a low-down presence, Perkins didn't play much significant time. Perkins and him work so well together but Miami's rotations forced them apart.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 22 2012 13:34 GMT
#6819
On June 22 2012 22:27 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 21:55 Holcan wrote:
I know harden sucked, I'm one of his biggest critics, but ibaka was also dreadful this series, bad offensive movement, bad spacing on screens, taking shots out of rythym. and his rim presence wasn't as good as it should've been with battier making him pay for sagging, for being their defensive anchor, and what many considered to be dpoy, he really wasny doing much.


I think he struggled playing out of position with his D. He really prefers being that help/weakside defender working with Perkins, but with Battier playing PF and shooting so well he was dragged away from the pain. And given Miami didn't much of a low-down presence, Perkins didn't play much significant time. Perkins and him work so well together but Miami's rotations forced them apart.

yea, definitely smart by spoelstra to go small for most of the series. I do think that ibaka on offense is as important as harden though, and both just sat back and let westbrook and kd carry them.


did you predict a miami blowout?? :p you should be a betting man.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
June 22 2012 13:34 GMT
#6820
On June 22 2012 22:11 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 21:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:

On June 22 2012 21:53 thuracine wrote:
On June 22 2012 20:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 22 2012 20:16 thuracine wrote:
On June 22 2012 19:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yes, they did. That's why they showed the shotclock to the players: Because the shotclock on the court was set at 5, (and would swap to off if OKC got possession). Scott Brooks isn't the greatest coach in the league but that blunder is purely on Westbrook's shoulders, not his. He and his staff informed the team.

I didn't even post the gif. You are, again, talking out of your ass about something you're mad about and asigning blame where it doesn't belong.


Miami only gets 5 on the shot if they win the jump ball. To not inform your players of that is a mistake. Westbrook thought the clock reset and went back to 24


Let me spell this out to you clearly, because you somehow are still not getting what I'm saying. Scott Brooks and his assistant coaches told the players who were going to be on the floor for the jump ball that if Miami gets it back, there will be 5 seconds on the clock. They then made sure every player saw the shotclock had 5 seconds.

Floor reporters confirmed it. ESPN was all over it the morning after. Westbrook took the blame himself because he misunderstood the situation when no one else did. You are making stuff up to blame Scott Brooks who is, at worst, and above average coach.

And even still, this all stems from you saying Miami got lucky and stole a title, when, even if Westbrook does not make that mistake, they've got 12 seconds or less to score 3 points to tie it, which is a less than 30% chance (because setting up an open 3 is not likely with 12 seconds or less, so you can't go by their averages). Then you assume Miami can't score again or can't win in Overtime and this is in ONE GAME of a 4-1 championship.

I hate you so much right now aaaaaaaaaaargh. I give up arguing with you about the eastern conference crap and the refs rigging it and I get drawn in by you blaming your own team INCORRECTLY for why the team lost and just shoot me in the face please.


Really? The clock doesn't reset to 5 until Miami wins the jump so it stays at 1.7 or w/e it was. As far as refs Fisher 1 flagrant foul 0 technical in his career and league president, thats just one. Blaming Scottt Brooks damn right he made some terrible errors in the finals same for James Harded


No it doesn't. It's set to 5 so that the shot clock operator can instantly start it if miami gets possession. If OKC gets it it gets turned off because there's only 17 seconds left in the game. The clock that the players look at was at 5. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. There's literally 0 reason for it to be at 0.4 seconds, and there was none, and it wasn't. Stop making things up.

Here is the proof in the top left corner of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdKxFWCRoc

Shut up.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
what now?


The clock resets when one team get possession it stays the same until than (it doesn't start till then). Good job NBA

Hell I am a Lakers fan and the only one defending OKC
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