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deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
April 08 2012 23:33 GMT
#301
On April 09 2012 08:31 Cracked wrote:
OP you're absolutely full of crap.

You spent so much time talking up BW and looking at all the finer points of BW, that you cannot appreciate the same things that happen in SC2.

I'll give you an example:
Lurkers vs Marines and Medics - This is exactly the same as Marine splitting against Banelings. Both increase the cost effectiveness of your marine. In both games, you can use tanks to target fire the lurkers/banelings and further increase the cost effectiveness of your army. Then you get stim for marines, or baneling speed, as well as the positional aspects of fighting on/off creep, and you have depth much like high ground lurkers or other things.

In both games, the zerg has multiple ways to deal with this at varying stages of the game. Mutalisk harass in the main base. Mutalisks sniping as much as possible. Queens for broodling or Infestors for fungal. Late game, you have defilers in BW, or Brood Lords in SC2. You'll have scourge to deal with science vessels in SC1, or you'll have raven/viking fighting your corruptor ball, with thor/infestor support.

Now, I'm not even going to say that my knowledge of BW is anything close to complete, but you can sort of see where an SC2 fan is coming from - and how much you don't understand as someone that doesn't watch SC2 at all.

My point is that from a completely objective perspective, you can enjoy similar levels of strategy in both games. The point is that you look at what I typed, and you think "wow, marine/lurker interaction is SO much more in depth than marine/baneling interaction!"

Because of that, I don't think any amount of VODs can help you.


I do watch SC2, but you're right, i don't understand it as much as i do BW. That's why i made this thread, because i hope that if you guys help me understand and appreciate SC2 i will enjoy it more.
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Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
April 08 2012 23:34 GMT
#302
basically the answer is : sorry, keep waiting for SC2 to get better. There really is no other answer.
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
April 08 2012 23:38 GMT
#303
Well the reseaon for most people switching to Sc2 was probaly the hype around it and the fact that it's new, which makes it more exciting. I agree to your points, but i think as the time goes on, sc2 developes into a good direction. The more things get figured out and the better players become, the more awesome actions we will see, but not only that i think the game will get deeper in many terms. Lets just pick maps for example : First there were just some maps by blizzard, that were imba and bad etc. Then there were either kind of boring maps that are balanced and macro orientated etc, but as said were kinda simple and boring or there were maps that tried to implement some new features, but didn't work out or were heavily imbalanced (this is actually kind of the situation atm), but eventually people will learn how maps should be done and will be able to combine both : new features and strategical possibilities and a good balance, which will make the game more exciting.
This was just an example of the fact that the game is developing in a good way, which is a process that BW went through as well, making it to the awesome game it is right now ( or has been the past years).
The problem that a lot of people have with sc2 fights is, that they're often only include late game 200/200 balls, but i can already see a development into smaller fights for map controle etc, because as people got better they realized that several actions they thought were undoable, because they were afraid of getting killed, do actually work.
I fell that sc2 has a lot of potential.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
April 08 2012 23:39 GMT
#304
On April 09 2012 08:26 deafhobbit wrote:
We're running in circles here.


That's basically how these threads play out. This is the 8923742nd one created.
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