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shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#41
hm i'm really sorry for all those players like myself who just got bored with sc2.
hope you guys will find something to keep you interested in sc2. if everything else fails just switch games like i did.
as long as you stay on tl.net it's fine XD
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
April 08 2012 12:03 GMT
#42
Its inevitable that every game will get less popular over time.

What is needed though, is to keep a large core group of passionate viewers to sustain the scene just like in BW.

Stuff like more community interaction, better social mediums in the bnet client, more interesting gameplays, more marketing of tournaments and personality to viewers. All of these blizzard have either dropped the ball huge time or they just don't want to create a sustainable sc2 scene (i can't understand why they wouldn't want this so i assume they fucked this up big time)
oggy
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway32 Posts
April 08 2012 12:07 GMT
#43
I've had the same problem to some degree, I think it's largely because I generally have been trying to copy the builds and styles of the pros. Only playing standard strategies can get quite repetetive over time.

Switching around and trying weird shit helps alot to add variety to the game, for those who haven't played more than one race for a long time should definitely play around with the other races aswell.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
April 08 2012 12:08 GMT
#44
Watching progames always inspires me to play more, to attempt to do half the shit they do.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
April 08 2012 12:12 GMT
#45
since i dont have much time to play i enjoy sc2 every day
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
April 08 2012 12:42 GMT
#46
I got bored of SC2 after discovering League of legends in august 2011.

But you know what, after watching a couple of lan events 1 month ago, i wanted to get back on sc2 and see if i could become master again, i think season 7 will bring me this promotion and i will keep playing until i reach top 8 master.
Of course i have good friends to play with so it helps a lot, but i think starcraft 2 is interesting only if you have a goal and that you can achieve it. ( plus i enjoy sc2 because games don't last like 45 minutes, and you have less rage in sc2 than LoL, because you can only blame yourself )
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 08 2012 13:02 GMT
#47
I think some people are lying to themselves if they say that it is Battle.net's fault or gamers today are much more whiny than they used to be. Fact is, matchmaking is fine, hosting games is fine (no problems with NAT traversal etc.) and cheating problem is still under control. Battle.net works fine for 99% of the people. It's just that missing features like cross-realm play, LAN support, reconnect ability and replay sharing leave a bitter taste in your mouth considering SC2 is supposed to be an e-sports title, but again, this maybe touches 1% of the player base.

You are missing moderated chat channels, embedded streams, alternative ladder systems? Guess what, older games didn't have all those features either but the community looked for and found better alternatives (IRC, scene sites, tournament orgs, etc.). The SC2 community appears to be extremely spoiled in this regard.

SC2 is possibly the gaming community with the biggest ratio of passive spectators to active players. This shows the interest and the reluctance to actually play the game at the same time. Don't you think the game itself is the problem here? SC2 is the best RTS of the last years, but it is so by doing its handcraft, it doesn't excel gameplay-wise in any point which would wow casual and expert players alike. Players that put a lot of work into the game will stick much longer to the game than just spectators. Yes, there is BW with a lot of spectators only in Korea, but it is a fully-dressed professional sports there with expensive production and its popularity developed from the grassroots PC bang scene.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
April 08 2012 13:05 GMT
#48
Usually when I get bored, its actually frustration, not boredom.

Play random, play team games, play customs, practice new builds, etc. Or just don't play for a while. There's no prize for playing sc2 (for you and me), so if you don't have fun there is no point.
Adventurekid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden505 Posts
April 08 2012 13:05 GMT
#49
On April 08 2012 22:02 SinCitta wrote:
I think some people are lying to themselves if they say that it is Battle.net's fault or gamers today are much more whiny than they used to be. Fact is, matchmaking is fine, hosting games is fine (no problems with NAT traversal etc.) and cheating problem is still under control. Battle.net works fine for 99% of the people. It's just that missing features like cross-realm play, LAN support, reconnect ability and replay sharing leave a bitter taste in your mouth considering SC2 is supposed to be an e-sports title, but again, this maybe touches 1% of the player base.

You are missing moderated chat channels, embedded streams, alternative ladder systems? Guess what, older games didn't have all those features either but the community looked for and found better alternatives (IRC, scene sites, tournament orgs, etc.). The SC2 community appears to be extremely spoiled in this regard.

SC2 is possibly the gaming community with the biggest ratio of passive spectators to active players. This shows the interest and the reluctance to actually play the game at the same time. Don't you think the game itself is the problem here? SC2 is the best RTS of the last years, but it is so by doing its handcraft, it doesn't excel gameplay-wise in any point which would wow casual and expert players alike. Players that put a lot of work into the game will stick much longer to the game than just spectators. Yes, there is BW with a lot of spectators only in Korea, but it is a fully-dressed professional sports there with expensive production and its popularity developed from the grassroots PC bang scene.


The thing is, "old games" had many of those things. Take wc3 for an example.
You should build a turtle fence!
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
April 08 2012 13:07 GMT
#50
Maybe it's time for you to take a break, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Try picking up another game for a few weeks and then come back to SC2 and you'll have a whole slew of new metagame intricacies and strategies to learn and explore.
Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
April 08 2012 13:17 GMT
#51
new builds always keep it interesting :D
VaultDweller
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania132 Posts
April 08 2012 14:07 GMT
#52
I have lost some interest in watching SC2, I used to watch tons of matches at first, most of them on Youtube, watched Day9 every day and so on. Now I only watch live tournaments or sometimes I keep a pro player's stream on the second monitor but that's about it. I'd say that it's a very normal thing to watch less and be more selective about what you spend your time on after the initial period where you want to gather information from anyone and anywhere.

I didn't get bored of playing yet even though I've played since the beta. In fact, I think I'm only now starting to really enjoy it. But yeah, I think it's Blizzard's job to make the experience more interesting, not much you can do if you stop having fun playing..
"War is not about who's right- it's about who's left."
arChieSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
Spain162 Posts
April 09 2012 12:45 GMT
#53
Same here, I used to stay late at night to watch streams and leagues, now I barely see any championship and it has been months since the last time I opened SCII, the game itself gets boring and BNet 0.2 makes It even worse, so from a hardcore user to almost never get online again... I feel like StarCraft II lacks something that other games have, but I dont know what It might be^^, by the way I am also playing LoL with friends as most of people who left SC2 do^^.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
April 09 2012 12:52 GMT
#54
I still play but barely watch anymore, it's just too repetitive, and the game is too fast, such that you don't see enough micro moves to keep it interesting. Except if you watch marineking of course =)
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 12:58:38
April 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#55
Stop playing standard (playing customs like monobattle works too) until you want to play "seriously" again. Battlecruiser or nuke rushes always makes me laugh (everyday can be funday monday!), and laughing is the cure for everything you get bored about. :-D

Otherwise just take a break, nobody is forcing you to play - maybe SC2 just isn't your thing.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
April 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#56
No meta game changes, no additional units, no patching at all. This game is very borin........wait
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
April 09 2012 12:59 GMT
#57
If people need a way to keep SC2 interesting...then I guess it isnt really fun.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
April 09 2012 13:02 GMT
#58
Battle Net is the thing that keeps me from being online 24/7, there is no reason to.

With WC3 or BW there was a reason to just idle online and chat. It got you coming back to the game, which in turn got you playing.

With WOL there is no compelling reason to log onto Battle Net, and this in turn keeps people from playing. In BW the majority of games I would play would only be after a conversation with a friend about XYZ vs ZYX. This doesn't really happen in WOL since chat channels are a joke and there is no clan support.

With the new GSL maps, people will hopefully play more, but I also think that a big reason people are bored of SC2 is that the game is boring. Unless you are a tip top professional player its a very stagnant and straightforward game. WC3 and BW had much more breadth of gameplay within a single match, and WOL simply doesn't.
Got that.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
April 09 2012 13:04 GMT
#59
Maybe you should try a different race. If you feel that you can't compete with another race in same level of league, then you could even purchase another account just for the other race. Protoss and Terran are complitely different playstyles PLUS I think you should have good games against zerg, since you now know that race quite well, which helps alot when forming new ideas for your play.
tuukster
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland114 Posts
April 09 2012 13:10 GMT
#60
Hopefully patch 1.5 will bring some new life to the community. We'll just have to see how long it takes to implement it.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/4592755/Developer_Update_with_Game_Director_Dustin_Browder_-3_12_2012
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