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On January 06 2013 04:21 Cokefreak wrote:
am i the only one who finds it annoying that some random blog is now plagued with the OP saying things like "petition: keep fantasy out of LR threads" or the classic "please keep it to yourself" and "nobody cares".

please keep it to yourself. nobody cares, truly. if you think you have something interesting to say about fantasy, post about it, but keep the lr threads clean please.

i love that fantasy is causing more interest in proleague, but i just find it obnoxious.

On January 06 2013 12:50 Spyridon wrote:


You really have to ask where?

1) Saying anyone is entitled for expecting what the developers promised, furthermore going so far as calling their promises a "gamble", is defending their shady business practices that everyone should be upset about, whether they PvP or not. If developer promises are a gamble then how could you possibly say there is not some sort of shady business going on??

2) Trying to point fingers at others saying people are upset because "they didnt put what YOU want in the game" is defending them by displacing the blame on to the customers (who were lied to) instead of where it belongs (on the developers who lied to us in order to get us to by the game, which in effect ripped us off).

3) Even arguing with the lazy comments are defending them somewhat, because that was just one of the likely scenarios mentioned. You and I both know I've said laziness was only one of the outcomes, yet you keep holding on to that and saying it was incorrect. Yet you ignore the fact that if it wasn't laziness, that's an even worse outcome for us all as customers.

Now before I say more on this subject, don't get me wrong. I understand how this point could be easily debated and understand not everyone is going to agree, but I know first hand exactly how much work it takes to develop a TDM mode with their features. If you'd like you can PM me and I'll link you to a youtube video of a multiplayer game with a dedicated server where I designed the netcode/character controller/mode/scoreboard/the map/most the art, and I'm not even an artist, so creating my below-average art took longer than it would take an artist to create decent art.

The entire thing only took me a few months (not even doing it full time), and the majority of the work was the character controller, netcode and physics. The mode itself was one of the smaller projects to create in mere weeks, and most of that was to get a couple of the scoreboard and stat bugs out.

Considering they had their TDM mode fully playable with partly functional matchmaking years before release (even ready enough for the public to try in 2010), even a couple people could have had the mode fully playable in the time they had.

So do I think it's laziness? Laziness is one of the most likely scenarios. If it wasn't laziness than we were betrayed even worse than if it was laziness. If they had even a few people working on the PvP for more than 2-3 months and they couldn't get it to be fun and playable, laziness is the only answer. If they did not have people working on the PvP, if they decided TDM wasnt going to be profitable enough for them, or if they decided "screw what we promised, lets just scratch the mode", that is just another example of shady business practice when they consistently led us to believe things that weren't true and screwed us in the end. Which is worse than laziness.

Now, I know you got what made you happy and kept you playing. But you really should realize that a big majority of the people are just as pissed off as I am, or even more, and we have every right to be. Can you really deny that making a blog promising PvP TDM in a few months then not only failing to deliver, but canceling it completely, is shady business? It's only by a advertising technicality that what they did is even legal, since it was said in a blog session...