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Blaming a 13 year old girl for her own suicide on the basis that she's a "slut" is NOT acceptable. |
+ Show Spoiler +"In Pijnacker last night a 13-year-old girl committed suicide possibly because of a so called banga list. On the Internet and social media rumors are going around that the girl has deprived herself of life because her name would appear on a "banga" list. Police in the southern Dutch village has confirmed the suicide, but would not comment." Google translated from; http://www.mediaenkranten.nl/?p=704
A tragic development in The Netherlands. A "Banga-List" as it is called, is something pubescent boys send around. It's a list of their top-10 girls who are "easy" or, as Banga (slang) literally translates to; are sluts. This has been going on for a while and has now come to light. Girls are committing suicide because they are on this list..
What is your opinion about this TL? It's kind of sad as I see it.. But is it something, SO BAD, that is it worth of depriving yourself of life?
Also, is this poor parenting, or what?
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+ Show Spoiler +The media reports this is not the first suicide because of these lists. Though it is silly, her tweets show things like;
"I can't handle this shit"
"Please, I want to hold on''
And her last tweet:
"I tried, but I can't hold on. Bye xx"
Her twittername provokes such stuff. I won't post here because of respect, but it is so sad.
On March 29 2012 19:45 Ketch wrote:
Hmm, just read her twitter account as it's still public. Looks like a normal teenager tweets, but also a lot of tweets that indicate she is unhappy. Too bad she was that unhappy
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Not that I'm defending it, but I doubt these lists are the cause of any suicides. The catalyst, sure, but not the cause.
Either way. 
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so that banga list means "easy to pick up and fu***" .. disco sluts?
why the hell would u suicide because some idiots put u on a "slut" list?
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On March 29 2012 19:15 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Not that I'm defending it, but I doubt these lists are the cause of any suicides. The catalyst, sure, but not the cause.
I agree. I don't think the list - in itself - would drive someone to that, but if it was just one part of lots of bullying over time etc ...
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why put out in the first place then. they want to be a slut in secret?
ah well maybe if they got bullied over shit etc. but if the sole reason if cuz they put out easy...then thats kinda their own problem :/
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Sad and unnecessary, but I don't think that list would have been the only cause. Must have been a pretty unstable person already.
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My guess is there is more to it than "just" a list like that behind the suicde, sure it must suck but i doubt anyone would actually commit suicide over a thing like that.
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Am i reading this right; Teen boys are making lists of what girls they deem to be easy to sleep with, and because she saw her name on the list, she decided to commit suicide.
I can't personally understand this being a valid reason to kill yourself, but I could possibly be biased since I am male. I can kind of understand the problems this could cause for girls, especially in highschool, where your image is everything and it's even more important for girls.
Was this "banga list" being sent around on facebook and twitter?
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If a 13 year old really did deserve the spot on that list, her parents should have committed suicide instead.
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I also don't think the guy who made the list is the one to blame. There must have been much more serious issues.
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On March 29 2012 19:20 KonohaFlash wrote:
Was this "banga list" being sent around on facebook and twitter?
There are no details being posted about the actual list in this case, but it's common that social (note the irony) media are used for distribution of these banga lists according to the news.
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On March 29 2012 19:21 -Archangel- wrote:
If a 13 year old really did deserve the spot on that list, her parents should have committed suicide instead.
I feel the same way.
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On March 29 2012 19:17 boppel wrote:
so that banga list means "easy to pick up and fu***" .. disco sluts?
why the hell would u suicide because some idiots put u on a "slut" list?
Because you're 13.
On March 29 2012 19:19 Silidons wrote:
why put out in the first place then. they want to be a slut in secret?
ah well maybe if they got bullied over shit etc. but if the sole reason if cuz they put out easy...then thats kinda their own problem :/
13. Why is the personal life of any 13 year old fair game? And why are you assuming that it was even deserved?
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Well...
Sad news of course but I can't help but feel that this is a silly non-issue. If I commit suicide because Jaedong lost his powerrank place, will we have a huge emo discussion about why flamewheel is evil (not that there is any doubt on that)?
Teenagers are dumb and do dumb things :/
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Guys keep a list of girls who are sluts and share them amongst each other? Is this a Netherlands thing?
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Suicide is a selfish act and never solution of problems, but rather source for problems and suffering of other people. It was her choice and I respect that, but I don't feel sorry nor do I think are the boys that put her on such a list guilty.
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I think these girls got big problems(mentally) and the reason for suicide isn't being on a bang list. Maybe it's the tipping point of stuff they are overwhelmed by but it certainly isn't the sole factor.
On March 29 2012 19:28 Type|NarutO wrote:
Suicide is a selfish act and never solution of problems, but rather source for problems and suffering of other people. It was her choice and I respect that, but I don't feel sorry nor do I think are the boys that put her on such a list guilty.
You are so wrong on so many things in your post I don't even know where to begin. Suicide is a selfish act? If a person doesn't want to live anymore for whatever reason(unhappy, deadly disease, old age, whatever) they must be kept alive against their will so their family can be happy? You don't think the happiness of the specific person is more important than the feelings of the family members? It's their life and their right to do whatever they want with it.
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On March 29 2012 19:26 Forbidden17 wrote:
Guys keep a list of girls who are sluts and share them amongst each other? Is this a Netherlands thing?
I am from the Netherlands myself, and before today, I had NEVER heard of it.
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On March 29 2012 19:19 Silidons wrote:
why put out in the first place then. they want to be a slut in secret?
ah well maybe if they got bullied over shit etc. but if the sole reason if cuz they put out easy...then thats kinda their own problem :/
Errr. Because they are normal human beings?
Unsurprisingly woman enjoy sex too, however if you call a man a slut, it carries no weight with anyone, however for women, people find it hurtful. We shouldn't shame people for having sex. In this case we should be more concerned with the possibility that this girl was having underage sex.
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On March 29 2012 19:25 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 19:17 boppel wrote:
so that banga list means "easy to pick up and fu***" .. disco sluts?
why the hell would u suicide because some idiots put u on a "slut" list? Because you're 13. Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 19:19 Silidons wrote:
why put out in the first place then. they want to be a slut in secret?
ah well maybe if they got bullied over shit etc. but if the sole reason if cuz they put out easy...then thats kinda their own problem :/ 13. Why is the personal life of any 13 year old fair game? And why are you assuming that it was even deserved?
I completely agree with you. People don't seem to understand that kids these days are learning about sex at much earlier ages, and are deciding to experiment. I'm not saying that they should be doing this, but it's reality.
I'm pretty sure she didn't know this was going to happen(banga list) and she overreacted about how much of an impact this would have on her life and killed herself.
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