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Dutch girl commits suicide over ''Banga-List" - Page 2
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Blaming a 13 year old girl for her own suicide on the basis that she's a "slut" is NOT acceptable. | ||
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Yggdrasil Leaf
221 Posts
Still things are never as simple as they appear. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:26 Forbidden17 wrote: Guys keep a list of girls who are sluts and share them amongst each other? Is this a Netherlands thing? Never heard of this. Either way I don't really think this deserves it's own thread. As sad as it is, social pressure and rumors cause teenagers to kill themselves all the time. This isn't anything new really. | ||
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boppel
140 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:28 KonohaFlash wrote: I completely agree with you. People don't seem to understand that kids these days are learning about sex at much earlier ages, and are deciding to experiment. I'm not saying that they should be doing this, but it's reality. I'm pretty sure she didn't know this was going to happen(banga list) and she overreacted about how much of an impact this would have on her life and killed herself. yeah well then her parents failed in life and raising her up correctly i, when i was 13 i knew how to fu** without making the girl pregnant and other shit.. because my parents told me what to do when.. and also its teached in school | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2597 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:19 Silidons wrote: why put out in the first place then. they want to be a slut in secret? ah well maybe if they got bullied over shit etc. but if the sole reason if cuz they put out easy...then thats kinda their own problem :/ Shame on you for your misogynistic, slut-shaming, bullying post. A bunch of young teenage boys bully a girl by putting her on a list of "easy" girls, one of the girls commits suicide, and your response is to further shame the victim of the bullying? There is no evidence in the discussion thus far that the girl in question actually "put out easy", as you so charmingly put it, and even if she was sexually active, having sex does not grant a license to anyone who feels like it to bully you. The casual way that you just dismiss a child's suffering as her own fault because you think she might have had sex is disgusting. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:20 KonohaFlash wrote: Am i reading this right; Teen boys are making lists of what girls they deem to be easy to sleep with, and because she saw her name on the list, she decided to commit suicide. I can't personally understand this being a valid reason to kill yourself, but I could possibly be biased since I am male. I can kind of understand the problems this could cause for girls, especially in highschool, where your image is everything and it's even more important for girls. Was this "banga list" being sent around on facebook and twitter? Apparently many people just get thrown on such lists without actually being a slut and when you're on the list you'll just get bullied till no end. Atleast that's what the article said I've never heard about these lists before. Besides you know how cruel teenagers can be and how emotionally unstable some are. | ||
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Kiwiandapple
Belgium240 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:28 Type|NarutO wrote: Suicide is a selfish act and never solution of problems, but rather source for problems and suffering of other people. It was her choice and I respect that, but I don't feel sorry nor do I think are the boys that put her on such a list guilty. I do agree with this. I want to add something tho; i myself have been bullied for my whole elamentry? and high school, to a state i quited school. didn't go to it, i never wanted to end my life because off it; but the whole community in the netherlands - is just sooo fucked up. I feel the urge to protect my own family (im dutch btw; moved to belgium at the age of 10) for such things. i got a few nieces around the age of 16. Who have / are going true some just complete bullshit. Wich even 5 years ago, was just not even there. I dunno, im just blown away by this.. dont know what to actually think off it; other then its sad it happend. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:34 Paperplane wrote: I've never heard of these banga lists before : o It must be a new thing. I do recall sometimes in highschool, guys would talk about some girls that they had sexual encounters with, but nobody would ever make a list and distribute it freely. This is really tragic. On March 29 2012 19:30 boppel wrote: yeah well then her parents failed in life and raising her up correctly i, when i was 13 i knew how to fu** without making the girl pregnant and other shit.. because my parents told me what to do when.. and also its teached in school This has nothing to do with condoms, as she wasn't pregnant( at least from what the OP is says). I don't recall ever being taught by sex education teachers that you shouldn't have sex. All they said was if you wanted to have sex, you should know the risks(STD,STI) and always use a condom. We don't even know for a fact that she did have sex to begin with. It's entirely possible that someone who wanted to sleep with her, got denied and he put her on the list just to spite her. We don't know all the facts, so it's not fair to make comments about her being a "slut". | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
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whiterabbit
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
The main blow to the girls on the list is probably not that a few dumb boys call them sluts, it is that they broadcast it to the world. Suicide is the most common death cause for teenagers and I guess there are always multiple reasons for a suicide (being a teen is probably the main one), but discussion is rather : how identify / protect against social network harassment without impacting freedom of speach ? | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:39 Oshuy wrote: I would guess this kind of list are common everywhere, like teenage boys giving marks to girls passing by. Articles I read focus not on the list itself, but on the fact that they are shared/published on social networks. The main blow to the girls on the list is probably not that a few dumb boys call them sluts, it is that they broadcast it to the world. Suicide is the most common death cause for teenagers and I guess there are always multiple reasons for a suicide (being a teen is probably the main one), but discussion is rather : how identify / protect against social network harassment without impacting freedom of speach ? Suicide is the most common death cause for teenagers? Could you give a source, because frankly, it's most likely not true. | ||
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Ksyper
Bulgaria665 Posts
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Yggdrasil Leaf
221 Posts
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tehneXus
Australia38 Posts
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2597 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:41 Recognizable wrote: Suicide is the most common death cause for teenagers? Could you give a source, because frankly, it's most likely not true. According to the CDC, it wasn't true in the USA in 2009, and I'd suspect that it's not true world-wide or in Holland, either. http://www.cdc.gov/Injury/wisqars/pdf/10LCD-Age-Grp-US-2009-a.pdf | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17908 Posts
they point fingers at certain girls .. calling them sluts.. when in fact they'd do anything to have sex with most of the girls on the list. the guys i knew who had girls "all over them" in school basically kept their "conquests" fairly private because they didn't want the different girls they were banging to know how many different choices they had  | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:41 Recognizable wrote: Suicide is the most common death cause for teenagers? Could you give a source, because frankly, it's most likely not true. Motor incidents apparently. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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