EPTOn March 09 2012 07:44 Klondikebar wrote:
It's not. Otherwise that would've been Orb's excuse right outta the gate.
It's not. Otherwise that would've been Orb's excuse right outta the gate.
He did say it was a scam, so he kind of did.
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
He did say it was a scam, so he kind of did. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Let people rage with whatever terminology they wish, isn't that the point of losing your nerves? Or if you can't do that, atleast don't bring your terrible tabloid journalism to my TL, please. | ||
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
Also note I did not say orb is either a racist or homophobic - like destiny, he merely employs such language. Regardless of his views regarding race and sexual orientation, he should really know better | ||
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:30 MercilessMonkey wrote: I think EG's sponsors will give a flying fuck. But is that because he says nigger or because people go around screaming that he is saying nigger? He has probably been saying it for years yet suddenly it's an issue? ------ He's been doing this since beta. There are 1000000s of players constantly doing similar things. It's somewhat a part of gaming and being online. It's the way to trash talk when you are anonymous. And trash talk is a part of competition. Competition doesn't have to be fair because we cannot define that fairness. I hate it when people just take a tone or ping too much in team games I leave. Yet I hold no judgement over them for doing so. What I would judge is childish acts like this. I think it's far worse to support this than to say whatever words you can think off. Don't actions speak louder than words? Also in general but especially for reddit, when a post becomes "succesful" it will spawn many clones. Because they all think it's an easy ride to recognition or whatever. The someone made balbabladerp, some kind of development idea, ingame strats or tactics with minitwists or things like these. It truly is due to whatever psychological effect is applicable here, dno the name. For lack of better words, sheeple describes what I'm aiming for pretty well. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:43 darkscream wrote: no it's not what the fuck. This is a real problem, the internet all of a sudden became super uptight and politcally correct. News flash, people make their own defintions for words all the time. We use rape and gay and fuck and whatever else in a totally different context within gaming compared to the outside world. Saying "gay" as a negative doesn't make you a homophobe any more than it makes you a sociopath. Gay also means happy, so if you call something gay negatively it doesn't mean you hate happiness. And if you call someone a nigger (especially someone whose race you can't possibly know) it doesn't mean you hate black people. Sorry this isnt 1950, popular culture changes the definition of words very quickly and if you get hung up on one meaning from one time period, you have to be sensitive to a LOT more words than just nigger and faggot. This isn't 1950? Because your post sure seems like it is. It's amazing that people think context is the magical tabula rasa for a word. Hint: it's not | ||
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Durso
United States51 Posts
my point is people are hypocrites, and like to watch the world burn and others suffer because they feel like they are worthless. some people just need to get over it | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:42 Firesilver wrote: Last time I checked IdrA doesn't use racial slurs. Neither does 5 year olds, which was the analogy. | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
Just lol... | ||
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Zambrah
United States7312 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:34 Klondikebar wrote: The fact that you think the term "gay" can be used to describe something you don't like is inherently homophobic. Words go through phases of amelioration and pejoration, slurs like nigger and faggot are certainly going through them. Also, context, lordy lordy, context. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
Do we want Starcraft to be as big as pro basketball one day? Yes Would a basketball commentator get fired for saying the N-Word publicly? Yes Why should we change our standards just because we're on the Internet? Just because a lot of people on the Internet insult others on the Internet doesn't make it right. Especially not for a high ranking figure. No sponsor wants their logo strapped on to a person who acts like this. We have to go through these growing pains for Esports and pro Starcraft to work. | ||
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RibsNGibs
64 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:36 Skilledblob wrote: I dont understand the american obcession with the word nigger. Well, we have very complicated racial social issues stemming from a long history of bad things. It may be "just a word", but it's a word that is associated with very ugly stuff. I don't know what the analogous thing might be for a German, but I'm sure there's some stuff you just shouldn't say about Jews or the Holocaust or Nazis, even though they are "just words," and maybe the young people don't remember what happened back then, but it remains in the public consciousness. | ||
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:42 Logros wrote: Idra got out of hand sometimes but what Orb is saying is 10x worse. Idra just calls people bad/dumb. If you don't understand why people are offended by 'nigger' then I'd read up on some American history. Wiki: Nigger is a noun in the English language, most notable for its usage in a pejorative context to refer to black people (generally people of Sub-Saharan African descent), and also as an informal slang term, among other contexts. It is a common ethnic slur, and suggests that its target is extremely unsophisticated. The word originated as a term used in a neutral context to refer to black people, as a variation of the Spanish/Portuguese noun negro, a descendant of the Latin adjective niger, meaning the color "black" | ||
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frozenrb
Poland389 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:45 Serinox wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=318389¤tpage=5#100 Just lol... Why this is bad? That's just advice... | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:44 AegiS_ wrote: CLASSIC CASE OF REVERSE RACISM Nice double standards brohan.My logic is fail? You realize that NO "white" singers or rappers (orb is white) say the N word. Guess why? They're professional and know that if you're white and you use the N word all the time, it's racist. again for the derps that read this and will rage, I'm not saying a huge deal should be made. but he is a representative of our community and to say it doesn't matter is also very insensitive and doesn't look good. | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:44 ZwuckeL wrote: this is the incident of a few months ago he played with that account on his stream all the time past then ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/N5J4s.jpg) obviously he BM raged about being beaten in a very standard ZvZ. this guy is simply one of the immaturest people in the entire sc2 scene hey thats me! | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:41 MaGariShun wrote: That's a pretty funny thing to say when their premier player is idra Scoots said the same thing on Lo3. He also said: "Guess what, Idra doesn't say that anymore". Big hint being, EG stepped in and said, if you represent us, you don't say something like that. Huk got the same treatment with a tweet a couple of weeks ago. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:44 Jinsho wrote: It's not ok to say nigger,fa ggot, *bitch*, or chink. Not on stream, not to your friends, not to anyone. Never. That's it. That's all. Discussion over. Orb needs to get a severe reprimand and realize that he isn't a dumb kid anymore and same for everyone who posted stupid shit in this thread about how you totally use nigger with your black friends. What the fuck? I can't say bitch? Are you the living incarnation of the FCC? | ||
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
TL;DR: Always tell the truth, no matter what. | ||
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Demicore
France503 Posts
To Robin and inControl: please don't use offensive language on air; I want you to keep casting! | ||
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