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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
Jhax[IRE]
Profile Joined November 2011
Ireland47 Posts
March 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#321
OP, orb is a boss, you are a bitch

User was warned for this post
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
March 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#322
On March 09 2012 07:41 Tsuki.eu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:39 Logros wrote:
On March 09 2012 07:33 laugoatse wrote:
wow, seriously? so much drama over a few insults on the ladder? orb gets mad after losing? big fucking deal.

It's probably a big deal for EG. Having someone that represents them act like an ignorant 5 year old and cuss out multiple people publicly and then try to lie about it to cover it up doesn't reflect well on them.


like idra?


Last time I checked IdrA doesn't use racial slurs.
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SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:43:42
March 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#323
On March 09 2012 07:41 pr0bez wrote:
Sure, out of context it's not a big deal for someone to use racial slurs in an online game. But what separates the SC2 community is that we have higher standards than the average gaming community. It's completely appropriate to be discussing these things so that Orb, and other players, know that they're out of line.


LOL

"higher standards"

That's the funniest thing I've seen yet. Being magnets to drama and writing pointless open letters/constantly berrating people who make 1 mistake (like IdrA) isn't holding yourself to higher standards.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 08 2012 22:43 GMT
#324
On March 09 2012 07:39 3772 wrote:
You guys realize that chat in replays can be edited, right?


would be funny if thats the case
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 08 2012 22:43 GMT
#325
I find his fannying about with "i was sleaping..other people share my account etc" to be the icing on the cake on his lame character. He's allways been a whiny, bm and immature guy. Nothing new really.

It's also pathetic how people can go on with all the sexual/ family etc abuse and nobody cares, but when the "n" word comes everyone is in shock.
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Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
March 08 2012 22:43 GMT
#326
He always raged when I beat him. Can i get a casting spot on NASL? I'm more skilled and manner than that racist white boi.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:45:19
March 08 2012 22:43 GMT
#327
On March 09 2012 07:34 Klondikebar wrote:
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On March 09 2012 07:32 frozenrb wrote:
Wonder how many times, you called something gay, even if you didn't have anything homophobic in mind...

It's childish like hell still... He is so stiupid:D


The fact that you think the term "gay" can be used to describe something you don't like is inherently homophobic.


no it's not what the fuck.

This is a real problem, the internet all of a sudden became super uptight and politcally correct.


News flash, people make their own defintions for words all the time. We use rape and gay and fuck and whatever else in a totally different context within gaming compared to the outside world.

Saying "gay" as a negative doesn't make you a homophobe any more than it makes you a sociopath. Gay also means happy, so if you call something gay negatively it doesn't mean you hate happiness. And if you call someone a nigger (especially someone whose race you can't possibly know) it doesn't mean you hate black people.

Sorry this isnt 1950, popular culture changes the definition of words very quickly and if you get hung up on one meaning from one time period, you have to be sensitive to a LOT more words than just nigger and faggot.



for the record, I barely even know who orb is and have watched almost zero of his casts. I don't give a damn about the dude. I care about our community which is rivalling celebrity magazines in terms of gossip, drama and stupidity.
kamkerx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States264 Posts
March 08 2012 22:43 GMT
#328
I thought you said he posted something racist. theres nothing racist here thread should be taken down
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:44:56
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#329
On March 09 2012 07:39 Kuja wrote:
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On March 09 2012 07:35 AegiS_ wrote:
If I was black, I would have just lost a lot of respect for TL from this thread.

He's a "professional" commentator, if you want the e-sports scene to be taken at least SOMEWHAT seriously from the rest of the world, there needs to be a higher standard than this (this, also referring to the countless people in this thread saying who cares).

If he was some no-name on ladder, then yeah I wouldn't care.. but guess what? He isn't some no-name. He is, like it or a not, a representative of OUR community because of the viewers he gets. So an example needs to be set by EG, or whoever, so that it doesn't continue and our community improves. That said, let the guy continue commentating.
What the fuck? Hip-pop and rap are so much bigger then eSports and use the word all the time, your logic is fail.


My logic is fail? You realize that NO "white" singers or rappers (orb is white) say the N word. Guess why? They're professional and know that if you're white and you use the N word all the time, it's racist.

again for the derps that read this and will rage, I'm not saying a huge deal should be made. but he is a representative of our community and to say it doesn't matter is also very insensitive and doesn't look good.
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#330
Holy damn people love blowing things up in the SC2 drama scene. It is like I'm back at highschool.

He got angry and BMed on ladder, what here is news? People do dumb shit when they're emotional.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#331
On March 09 2012 07:43 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:39 3772 wrote:
You guys realize that chat in replays can be edited, right?


would be funny if thats the case


It's not. Otherwise that would've been Orb's excuse right outta the gate.
#2throwed
DrAbuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany209 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#332
On March 09 2012 07:41 Roe wrote:
He didn't just say "Nigger" in a sanitized and analytic way. He said things like "dumb nigger" repeatedly, indicating he thinks blacks are stupid.


Objection!!! If he thought that blacks are stupid, he wouldnt use "dumb nigger", as it would be a tautology!! Gotcha there, bro... gotcha there.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#333
On March 09 2012 07:41 Roe wrote:
He didn't just say "Nigger" in a sanitized and analytic way. He said things like "dumb nigger" repeatedly, indicating he thinks blacks are stupid. And if he didn't have that in mind, why did he renege? Clearly he is an ignorant idiot, and we shouldn't associate with people like that. People and actions like these are the first steps to the degradation of ESPORTS.

He probably renege because he knew people would freak out if it was him and tried to brush it under the carpet. And by doing so made it worse when it came out.
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:45:05
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#334
this is the incident of a few months ago

he played with that account on his stream all the time past then

[image loading]

obviously he BM raged about being beaten in a very standard ZvZ. this guy is simply one of the immaturest people in the entire sc2 scene
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#335
It's not ok to say nigger, faggot, bitch, or chink. Not on stream, not to your friends, not to anyone. Never.

That's it. That's all. Discussion over. Orb needs to get a severe reprimand and realize that he isn't a dumb kid anymore and same for everyone who posted stupid shit in this thread about how you totally use nigger with your black friends.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#336
Leave the drama for reddit
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#337
On March 09 2012 07:39 Sultan.P wrote:
This thread should get all the attention it's getting.

This kind of behavior needs to stop in general in our community. The nerd rage and all the excuses for it is just idiotic. I used to watch orb's stream for a bit but the endless flaming and harassment towards his opponents is really irritating and uncomfortable. It's a shame honestly, bc orb is a charismatic person and does particularly well as a caster, but these are the kind of things that just turn you off about him. It was obvious that this guy was not classy but these pictures are just embarrassing.

Personally, I hope he's reprimanded as this immaturity should never be advocated.


As long as games remain tailored to children you'll have immature behaviour in them.
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#338
Hahaha, waiting for Orb KKK pics right now :D

Kinda sad - i rage on ladder too (from time to time ... erm ... ^^) but i never write that in the chat and i'm not a caster so that's fine (still need to invent sth i can punch instead of my table).
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
March 08 2012 22:44 GMT
#339
Ban his racist ass please.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
March 08 2012 22:45 GMT
#340
On March 09 2012 07:41 Roe wrote:
He didn't just say "Nigger" in a sanitized and analytic way. He said things like "dumb nigger" repeatedly, indicating he thinks blacks are stupid. And if he didn't have that in mind, why did he renege? Clearly he is an ignorant idiot, and we shouldn't associate with people like that. People and actions like these are the first steps to the degradation of ESPORTS.


I disagree. If you know anything about raging and swear words you would be able to recognize a string of rage. Saying "your dumb nigger strategies" is equivalent to saying "your dumb shit strategies" or "your dumb gay ass strategies".

There is no correlation between "dumb" and "nigger" which indicates he thinks black people are stupid, you are on a witch hunt.
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