On February 11 2012 03:29 VPCursed wrote: i'm confused, i wasn't aware police kick your window and have there gun on you when you stop your car... wtf?
if you don't obey them they do that. obviously when in shock you can't really obey lol
On February 11 2012 03:40 solidbebe wrote: I hate it when they keep yelling at the guy do not move do not move when obviously he is just sitting there still in the car, fucking braindead cops.
You want to wait for him to start reaching for something before you tell him not to move? Now that would be a braindead move.
Very unsettling. Why does he pull a gun and kick at the window when they pulled him over for "drunk driving"? And why does not 6 police officers see that the man does not have regular motor control? And why do they feel the need to kick him while he's down, breaking his ribs?
First of all, police brutality and this incident is really sad and messed up. However, the problem of police brutality is an example of a vicious cycle. We tend to hear more stories about police brutality than good deeds by the police, and this affects our general perception of police. For example, in the US a common phrase is "fuck the police", and people often drop it casually. For the police, many of whom risk their lives to ensure public safety, all of them are impacted negatively by the actions of a few brutal police, and thus a gulf emerges between police and populace. When the populace that you are supposed to be protecting is hostile to you, then incidents of police brutality, which increases hostility towards police, etc, until the system is broken.
I don't believe a fine is enough. Whenever something like this happens, it should be the end of the line for the police responsible, fire them and prohibit them ever from serving again, they can't handle the responsibility that comes with it.
On February 11 2012 03:44 shabby wrote: Very unsettling. Why does he pull a gun and kick at the window when they pulled him over for "drunk driving"? And why does not 6 police officers see that the man does not have regular motor control? And why do they feel the need to kick him while he's down, breaking his ribs?
1) Probably because he wasn't responding, following their commands once he stopped the car. 2) They thought he was drunk. 3) No idea.
On February 11 2012 03:26 Chill wrote: I can't watch the video at work, but I can say being in diabetic shock is really similar to being drunk. My friend has had to physically hold me down and pour honey in my mouth in the past while I tried to fight him. Dude seriously shouldn't have been driving and should have had his medicalert braclet on. But he still didn't deserve to get beaten :X
Is diabetic shock something that can come on quickly? I am just wondering why he was driving in this state, the only explenation (besides stupidity) I can think of is if hit him while he was already driving.
Typically not. You can usually feel it coming. In certain circumstances (you mismeasured your insulin, you accidentally took two injections, you haven't eaten, etc.) when you are focused on other things, it can hit pretty sudden and hard.
Edit: I have had one situation like this. I started driving, felt 100% fine, and then I could feel it was coming. By the time I pulled off to a convenience store to get some sugar, I was in a very bad state and couldn't drive straight. I don't know why it hit so suddenly that time.
Now I usually, but not always, have my insulin and something sugary with me when driving on the highway.
On February 11 2012 03:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't believe a fine is enough. Whenever something like this happens, it should be the end of the line for the police responsible, fire them and prohibit them ever from serving again, they can't handle the responsibility that comes with it.
Police unions prevent any real punishment (besides paid leave) upon the police officers.
While the OP may not intend for this to turn into a "European vs. US police" thread, it will. The OP contributes to the situation in the following ways:
I'm not intending on bashing U.S. Police, because for example, even tho here in Romania this kind of stuff would never happen, another thing would happen, you could get stabbed in front of a police men and receive no help because cops here won't risk their life to save a civilian.
If you aren't interesting in making this a US cop bashing thread, why even make an out-the-ass comment about how it would never happen in Romania? I know you probably have good intentions but you are setting up this thread for a bad future by saying this.
Also you SUCK at qualifying your statements, watch:
I'm not intending on bashing U.S. Police, because for example, even tho here in Romania this kind of stuff might not happen as much due to the more restricted nature of police, however, another thing might happen, you could get stabbed in front of a police men and receive no help because cops here might not risk their life to save a civilian.
You speak in absolutes yet cite no sources or data to substantiate your claims. If you want to be abstract about it, be abstract and qualify your statements and back up what you say with information from your own experience or that of others.
IMO: This situation is an exception to the rule, US police don't make a policy of beating sick people.
On February 11 2012 04:01 attwell wrote: While the OP may not intend for this to turn into a "European vs. US police" thread, it will. The OP contributes to the situation in the following ways:
I'm not intending on bashing U.S. Police, because for example, even tho here in Romania this kind of stuff would never happen, another thing would happen, you could get stabbed in front of a police men and receive no help because cops here won't risk their life to save a civilian.
If you aren't interesting in making this a US cop bashing thread, why even make an out-the-ass comment about how it would never happen in Romania? I know you probably have good intentions but you are setting up this thread for a bad future by saying this.
Also you SUCK at qualifying your statements, watch:
I'm not intending on bashing U.S. Police, because for example, even tho here in Romania this kind of stuff might not happen as much due to the more restricted nature of police, however, another thing might happen, you could get stabbed in front of a police men and receive no help because cops here might not risk their life to save a civilian.
You speak in absolutes yet cite no sources or data to substantiate your claims. If you want to be abstract about it, be abstract and qualify your statements and back up what you say with information from your own experience or that of others.
IMO: This situation is an exception to the rule, US police don't make a policy of beating sick people.
You assault the OP. Giving some reasoning behind it, yet this is what you do. We are talking about an incident here and this is what should be discussed. He did make an out-the-ass (as you said) comment, but you also concluded with an exactly the same out-the-ass "IMO: This situation is an exception to the rule, US police don't make a policy of beating sick people."
I agree with you that obviously that's the exception and that because having a gun is legal and common in the US, then police has sometimes to be overly cautious/brutal for their own safety.
But I can not see the reason why those cops should not get a psychiatric evaluation ASAP, after laughing and joking about kicking the ribs out of a sick person. I mean, this misunderstanding can happen. The guy got money in compensation, and that's all about him. But the officers who found the situation funny, have understood something wrong about the world. It is not funny to hurt other people, especially if they are helpless. It is sick
On February 11 2012 03:26 Chill wrote: I can't watch the video at work, but I can say being in diabetic shock is really similar to being drunk. My friend has had to physically hold me down and pour honey in my mouth in the past while I tried to fight him. Dude seriously shouldn't have been driving and should have had his medicalert braclet on. But he still didn't deserve to get beaten :X
Is diabetic shock something that can come on quickly? I am just wondering why he was driving in this state, the only explenation (besides stupidity) I can think of is if hit him while he was already driving.
Typically not. You can usually feel it coming. In certain circumstances (you mismeasured your insulin, you accidentally took two injections, you haven't eaten, etc.) when you are focused on other things, it can hit pretty sudden and hard.
Edit: I have had one situation like this. I started driving, felt 100% fine, and then I could feel it was coming. By the time I pulled off to a convenience store to get some sugar, I was in a very bad state and couldn't drive straight. I don't know why it hit so suddenly that time.
Now I usually, but not always, have my insulin and something sugary with me when driving on the highway.
The weird thing is they said they found insulin in his pocket.
On February 11 2012 03:45 Bagration wrote: First of all, police brutality and this incident is really sad and messed up. However, the problem of police brutality is an example of a vicious cycle. We tend to hear more stories about police brutality than good deeds by the police, and this affects our general perception of police. For example, in the US a common phrase is "fuck the police", and people often drop it casually. For the police, many of whom risk their lives to ensure public safety, all of them are impacted negatively by the actions of a few brutal police, and thus a gulf emerges between police and populace. When the populace that you are supposed to be protecting is hostile to you, then incidents of police brutality, which increases hostility towards police, etc, until the system is broken.
The problem isn't police brutality per se. It's that police routinely defend criminals in unfirom even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
The second part of your post is just victim blaming. Police brutality happens because there are assholes who happen to be cops. Hostility is not the issue, getting away with assult is.
So, I assume you two have statistics showing that the majority of police are corrupt and lazy, right? "1 in 100,000"? You got that number from a peer reviewed journal?
Fucking fourteen year olds.
coming from a guy named teh tehklz, that insult is a bit ironic.
And I agree with his statistical analysis based on personal experience with a lot of law enforcement. they're just humans, corruptible, lazy, and cowardly, like most individuals. Somehow people have gotten it into their head that when opeople put on a badge they become super heroes who are to be trusted and listened to, even thouigh your teenage daughter is more likely to be molested by a peace (lol) officer than a stranger. youtube it, google it, its true.
On February 11 2012 03:26 Chill wrote: I can't watch the video at work, but I can say being in diabetic shock is really similar to being drunk. My friend has had to physically hold me down and pour honey in my mouth in the past while I tried to fight him. Dude seriously shouldn't have been driving and should have had his medicalert braclet on. But he still didn't deserve to get beaten :X
Is diabetic shock something that can come on quickly? I am just wondering why he was driving in this state, the only explenation (besides stupidity) I can think of is if hit him while he was already driving.
Typically not. You can usually feel it coming. In certain circumstances (you mismeasured your insulin, you accidentally took two injections, you haven't eaten, etc.) when you are focused on other things, it can hit pretty sudden and hard.
Edit: I have had one situation like this. I started driving, felt 100% fine, and then I could feel it was coming. By the time I pulled off to a convenience store to get some sugar, I was in a very bad state and couldn't drive straight. I don't know why it hit so suddenly that time.
Now I usually, but not always, have my insulin and something sugary with me when driving on the highway.
The weird thing is they said they found insulin in his pocket.