EPTOn January 30 2012 08:09 Shackadeemus wrote:
Idra, just switch to protoss already..
Idra, just switch to protoss already..
That'll be the day. XD
Huk and IdrA in Code A; "Zerg doesn't beat Toss" - Page 9
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
That'll be the day. XD | ||
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote: How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same? Because every other zerg either tries to find a way around their issues or deals with it in a constructive manner. He is about the only person that just constantly bitches and whines like a little kid. | ||
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Asrathiel
Australia377 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
I've always been amused that people have used that as some sort of argument against IdrA. IdrA complained about things back in the beta that were nerfed... things that have been released have been nerfed countless times. Just because he keeps complaining and you don't like it doesn't make all the things he's said have been incorret. It might make him sound like a broken record, but that doesn't suddenly mean the validity of many of his complaints have been wrong. That being said, IdrA was asked a question in an interview and he gave his opinion. He didn't randomly created a thread on teamliquid complaining about balance or calling out protoss users. There is a difference between unsolicited whining and answering a question. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On January 30 2012 08:07 Megaman_X wrote: because Idra knows Huk is a macro-based player instead of some 2base all-iner or some gimmicky player Which is funny because he used to always refer to him as the exact opposite. ^___^ | ||
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
Idra probably wins the majority of his ZvP, but when he loses, he loses hard. He analyses his games and is perhaps unable to determine why he lost and concludes imbalance instead of looking harder. My personal perspective is as follows: Did you kill his quick third? Yes - I'll probably win No - GG | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
On January 30 2012 08:11 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I've always been amused that people have used that as some sort of argument against IdrA. IdrA complained about things back in the beta that were nerfed... things that have been released have been nerfed countless times. Just because he keeps complaining and you don't like it doesn't make all the things he's said have been incorret. It might make him sound like a broken record, but that doesn't suddenly mean the validity of many of his complaints have been wrong. That being said, IdrA was asked a question in an interview and he gave his opinion. He didn't randomly created a thread on teamliquid complaining about balance or calling out protoss users. There is a difference between unsolicited whining and answering a question. Did you read the post I quoted? What makes Idra's opinion invalid is that his opinion has always stayed the same regardless of how well Zerg has been doing against Protoss, in Korea or elsewhere. | ||
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
On January 30 2012 08:14 Noocta wrote: Meh.. I'm Terran so i dunno but isn't the match up all about " protoss can't move out because mutalisk are overpowered QQ " right now ? assuming the zerg survives until mutas are out yes, for the most part. | ||
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FuTon
United States308 Posts
"Forge Fast Expand is Difficult to Stop as Zerg This is something we discussed at BlizzCon as well. The new units we’re bringing in should allow zerg to play more aggressively versus players who are defending heavily with little intention of attacking in the early/mid game. For now, we believe this isn’t a game breaking issue because overall, zerg is performing well against protoss. In fact, zerg is not struggling at any level of play, and their win ratio compared to skill is extremely solid at every skill level." Source: David Kim's Q&As So according to David Kim who is the game balance designer, what Idra said about "zerg can't beat protoss" is not true. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
Greg has changed his outlook so much <3 | ||
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
On January 30 2012 08:13 Roxy wrote: I think the problem with balance discussions in the PvZ matchup are that people on both sides of this fence play someone every once in a while that buttrapes them so hard that they are left dumbfounded as to what they could have done better. Idra probably wins the majority of his ZvP, but when he loses, he loses hard. He analyses his games and is perhaps unable to determine why he lost and concludes imbalance instead of looking harder. My personal perspective is as follows: Did you kill his quick third? Yes - I'll probably win No - GG This is true. Humans apparently tend to remember negative experiences more vividly than positive ones. ...I remember hearing that somewhere...don't remember where. I wonder why that is... | ||
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werynais
Germany1780 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On January 30 2012 06:59 stonetalon wrote: even when zerg is destoying toss idra complains X_X i don't get it anymore... He will never stop ^^ It's like if you ask IdrA and Artosis how balanced brood war is they will say Toss is OP and Terran is UP  | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On January 30 2012 08:09 Shackadeemus wrote: Idra, just switch to protoss already.. It would be really fascinating it this happened. If he thinks zerg early game scouting/ability to react is bad... | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
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LoSoM
United States2 Posts
Terran(Happy,tlo,thorzain) ect =) right? | ||
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