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Huk and IdrA in Code A; "Zerg doesn't beat Toss" - Page 7

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 29 2012 22:52 GMT
#121
You know, it's not really my kind of thing condoning whining and complaining. It tends to get on my nerves. I also believe that Idra isn't playing to the best of his capacity. He's got the rote mechanics but he needs that extra something... Either way, I also really dislike people, who really don't know better, shitting on a professional opinion.

"Well, if Idra said ZvP is imba atm, it sure as hell must not be"... come on guys seriously? Who plays SC2 all day long? You or Idra? Who has the better insight on the game?

Again, I'm not saying Idra is always right and that he should be worshiped like Flash a god, but his statements should at very least not be scoffed at that lightly and should hold some meaning.

maru lover forever
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#122
such a whiner ... it really gets boring
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#123
On January 30 2012 07:43 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 07:37 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 30 2012 07:34 Lumi wrote:
love watching people whine about idras whining


The important thing is that you found a way to feel superior to both.

xkcd.

But isn't it ironic?

People whine about Idra and are telling him to stop whining, while they are whining themselve.
I tell you man, they just project their mistakes to Idra and want him to fix it. Like parents educating their children.

now give me a psychological nobel prize.


And then people whine about people whining about Idra whining.

Whineception.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
January 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#124
On January 30 2012 07:52 Incognoto wrote:
You know, it's not really my kind of thing condoning whining and complaining. It tends to get on my nerves. I also believe that Idra isn't playing to the best of his capacity. He's got the rote mechanics but he needs that extra something... Either way, I also really dislike people, who really don't know better, shitting on a professional opinion.

"Well, if Idra said ZvP is imba atm, it sure as hell must not be"... come on guys seriously? Who plays SC2 all day long? You or Idra? Who has the better insight on the game?

Again, I'm not saying Idra is always right and that he should be worshiped like Flash a god, but his statements should at very least not be scoffed at that lightly and should hold some meaning.



This statement would hold true for any pro -idra. Ever heard of the kid that cried wolf?

Yeh that kid was Idra.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#125
Oh idra. Looks like he's decided to just give up again.
aka ilovesharkpeople
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 29 2012 22:55 GMT
#126
idra not confident against avenge but saying he would win against huk ? where is the logic
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
January 29 2012 22:55 GMT
#127
Something I noted about both of those interviews, as well, on a more serious note, is that for whatever reason, both of the guys found a convenient time to drop a line about not being able to practice enough.

This is something that severely worries me about foreigners.Both of these guys are considered to be at the top of the foreigner scene, both are afford a very nice salary from their team and have superior living / training conditions in one of the top korean team's training houses. Don't have to worry about money, have superior training conditions, and yet they still seem to find a way not to get it done. I truly don't know what else they could possibly need to have a better situation set up for them.

If this is the best that NA has to offer, then truly, foreigners are a lost cause until something significant changes.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
January 29 2012 22:55 GMT
#128
Idra feels a bit like a broken record... broken record... broken record...

white dudes hwaitiiing.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
January 29 2012 22:55 GMT
#129
On January 30 2012 07:25 BrauL wrote:
For all the people ragging on IdrA and trying so hard to prove him wrong or start some kind of ZvP argument, do any of you actually know what it's like to be playing in the ABSOLUTE TOP of the Korean ladder? The metagame in top Korean play might actually just be in favour of Protoss right now IdrA's comment could just be a reflection of that.


Perhaps but it's the exact same repeated line Idra has been dropping for literally YEARS now and nothing has changed. It has absolutely nothing to do with the state of the "ABSOLUTE TOP KOREAN METAGAMEEEEE!"
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
January 29 2012 22:56 GMT
#130
Someone should teach Idra how to baneling bust FFE fromthose greedy protosses I guess. Watching Stephano/Leenock doing that to every one of my fave's and having a 100% win rate makes me sad
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 23:00:37
January 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#131
Isn't ZvP even more one-sided than TvP at the moment? -.-'

THAT says something. Come on, IdrA. I'm rooting for you, but don't make excuses before the games actually play out x.x

EDIT: I hope IdrA and HuK both win :D

They're totally ready:

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"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
January 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#132
On January 30 2012 07:30 Mementoss wrote:
what circumstances are stopping Huk from practising as much??


I think it's because of his use of drugs, but thats just my theory.
-,-
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
January 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#133
Drop the QQ Idra and learn to play the matchup.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
January 29 2012 22:59 GMT
#134
I thought ZvP had a 55% win rate currently?

RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
January 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#135
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#136
DRG's interview from Code S Group F:
After you won King of Kong I was in awe of your play. Is it still that way?

Not anymore (laugh). I practiced a lot after that but these are tough times for Zerg. I asked for advice from NesTea and he also said he's having a hard time. ZvT and ZvP are both difficult. I think Terrans and Protoss have figured out how to beat a Zerg too well.
There are only 3 Zergs in the Ro16. It's ridiculous. It's so hard to play. The maps play a part as does the balance, it feels like I'm dying.

Get outta here. DRG also complaining? No way.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#137
well alot of pros complain about something being harder for one side in the matchup. But for me its often the zerg having the easier time, though i like to ignore the reproduction need for zerg. Especially pvz seems currently easy for the zerg, but toss getting more accustomed to the current zerg playstyle.
Idra just states his opinion, though often negative and i guess he got a bit of to negative mindset, to perform up to his bw standards, from one year of being the weakest race.
Zerg is doing pretty fine currently everywhere, even in the gsl, though code S is still terran dominated, its mostly due to mass terrans being in the code S before.

tanks for the interview!
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 23:01:55
January 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#138
On January 30 2012 07:54 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 07:43 Hardigan wrote:
On January 30 2012 07:37 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 30 2012 07:34 Lumi wrote:
love watching people whine about idras whining


The important thing is that you found a way to feel superior to both.

xkcd.

But isn't it ironic?

People whine about Idra and are telling him to stop whining, while they are whining themselve.
I tell you man, they just project their mistakes to Idra and want him to fix it. Like parents educating their children.

now give me a psychological nobel prize.


And then people whine about people whining about Idra whining.

Whineception.


It's well known that whine and cheese go well together. ^^


Who here actually watched Idra's stream when he commentated?
maru lover forever
horsebanger
Profile Joined January 2012
141 Posts
January 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#139
On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote:
even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says


agreed
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#140
lol, personally I find Terran has a reason to whine vs Protoss in late game but I can't believe Zerg still whining about Protoss.
And I just ignore IdrA anyway, he doesn't have any quality of a top level champion. The best thing he could do is blaming and whining.
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