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Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 24 2012 14:40 GMT
#261
On January 24 2012 23:24 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 22:44 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/4EH5l.jpg


Hahaha you just fail , you show pictures from live events , and try compere them to Sc2 television match for studio where is less space for audience ?. Its picture from GSL studio you fool

What about GSL final audience vs OSL
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
January 24 2012 14:47 GMT
#262
On January 24 2012 23:40 Tomken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:24 pallad wrote:
On January 24 2012 22:44 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/4EH5l.jpg


Hahaha you just fail , you show pictures from live events , and try compere them to Sc2 television match for studio where is less space for audience ?. Its picture from GSL studio you fool

What about GSL final audience vs OSL

also. dunno about the LoL picture. but the BW picture is form a normal Broodwar playday in the sutdio.
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
January 24 2012 14:49 GMT
#263
lol picture is from yongsan esports stadium
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
January 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#264
On January 24 2012 23:47 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:40 Tomken wrote:
On January 24 2012 23:24 pallad wrote:
On January 24 2012 22:44 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/4EH5l.jpg


Hahaha you just fail , you show pictures from live events , and try compere them to Sc2 television match for studio where is less space for audience ?. Its picture from GSL studio you fool

What about GSL final audience vs OSL

also. dunno about the LoL picture. but the BW picture is form a normal Broodwar playday in the sutdio.


I don't really care about LoL so i don't know about that pic but as rasers said, the bw picture is from a normal BW playday in the studio, i've watched every single match this season, and in everyone of them the studio has been full (:
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 24 2012 15:30 GMT
#265
On January 24 2012 23:21 fabiano wrote:
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On January 24 2012 23:05 noD wrote:
On January 24 2012 23:03 fabiano wrote:
LoL hacks up to 150k viewers man... is it because its free?

just like SC2, LoL is casual and aimed for newbies accessibility and it can be fun to play for a while, but its a pain in the ass to watch it and nothing 'competitive' can really be taken seriously.


well I would agree with you till IEM Kiev, now I really dont know...


is it worth watching?

recommend me games please, want to see how SC2 is rightnow (humble request)


Well I was talking about lol.
Sc2 gsl level is pretty high in code s (still a child compared to bw tho ... )
Acer1791
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany182 Posts
January 24 2012 15:56 GMT
#266
cant believe why so many people like lol more than sc2..
sc2 is much more competitive than lol.
its clear to say bw>sc2>lol
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
January 24 2012 15:58 GMT
#267
On January 24 2012 23:35 Milkis wrote:
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On January 24 2012 23:12 ShadeR wrote:
On January 24 2012 22:27 Milkis wrote:
I really don't understand the level of denial in this thread

Poor you. Reddit SC2 has killed your soul.
I'll see if i can find you something warm and fluffy.


Haha, won't deny that i lost a lot of interest in esports in general after that incident.

But BW scene switching to SC2 isn't really a "rumor" from what I know :S


How can you be sure? And can you give us anymore details, especially whether you're referring to entire teams? The OP and others seem to think that we're only talking about C-teamers practically, and maybe some B-teamers who actually do play BW pretty well, but not many.

I will be excited either way. Because former BW players have been so successful in SC2, many SC2 fans respect the top BW players like Jaedong even though they don't watch them. Even if players of that top caliber don't switch to SC2, it'll be cool to see SC2 players playing in the same practice house and environment as Jaedong, Bisu, Flash, etc. Maybe the same practice environments that produced those players can produce some excellent SC2 players.

Also maybe it would give SC2 more legitimacy in KR if BW teams had SC2 teams? Obviously it would help a ton if big names switched to SC2, but I still don't believe that yet.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
January 24 2012 15:59 GMT
#268
On January 24 2012 23:03 fabiano wrote:
LoL hacks up to 150k viewers man... is it because its free?

just like SC2, LoL is casual and aimed for newbies accessibility and it can be fun to play for a while, but its a pain in the ass to watch it and nothing 'competitive' can really be taken seriously.


lol at this elitist bullshit.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
January 24 2012 16:07 GMT
#269
On January 24 2012 22:27 Milkis wrote:
I really don't understand the level of denial in this thread

I just want BW scene to prosper
Too much losses...
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
January 24 2012 16:07 GMT
#270
On January 25 2012 00:59 cuppatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:03 fabiano wrote:
LoL hacks up to 150k viewers man... is it because its free?

just like SC2, LoL is casual and aimed for newbies accessibility and it can be fun to play for a while, but its a pain in the ass to watch it and nothing 'competitive' can really be taken seriously.


lol at this elitist bullshit.


Yea, you could just as easily say that no video game should ever be taken seriously for the same reason, but I'm sure fabiano wouldn't agree with that argument. How difficult can it be to sit in a chair and type on a keyboard, right? I mean I do that everyday. Why would anyone watch people do that?

It's an entirely subjective perspective that almost doesn't even warrant discussing. You will never convince people that the things they are passionate about aren't worth taking seriously.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 16:25:06
January 24 2012 16:20 GMT
#271
On January 24 2012 23:38 Tomken wrote:
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On January 24 2012 07:47 Luepert wrote:
If Nestea (zergbong) leaves IM for a BW team I'm gunna be so friggin pissed.
As long my precious SC2 players stay in the Sc2 scene and there continues to be GSTL and GSL, I am happy

Isn't he going to the military anyway soon or has he been there..?


He actually went to the military before he even was a BW progamer, iirc.

If anything, I have a feeling that the BW sponsors would just dissolve their teams and get out of the scene rather than take on SC2 teams. After all, who cares or even knows about SK Telecom or KT outside of Korea? They're rival telecommunication companies that operate within South Korea. Since SC2 market is mostly outside of Korea, there is really no incentive for these guys to sponsor a Korean SC2 team.

Edit: I did remove SC2 from my sidebar.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 24 2012 16:30 GMT
#272
On January 25 2012 00:56 Acer1791 wrote:
cant believe why so many people like lol more than sc2..
sc2 is much more competitive than lol.
its clear to say bw>sc2>lol


I think no one is insane enough to disagree with you
But the simplicity is what makes lol sell so much for girls and young audience ...
And where is more people money will be there ...
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 24 2012 16:31 GMT
#273
On January 25 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 22:27 Milkis wrote:
I really don't understand the level of denial in this thread

I just want BW scene to prosper
Too much losses...



same, but times are changing. I can get behind SC2, only if its a smooth transition. None of that middle of the season crap. I want a proper ending of the epic BW legacy in Korea if they do decide to end it (oh God I hope not).
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
January 24 2012 16:33 GMT
#274
On January 24 2012 09:01 fabiano wrote:
I wrote, deleted, rewrote, redeleted and wrote again this post again trying to keep it as little SC2 bashing as possible.

For me, SC2 is horrible. It is a really good game if you compare to CnC and it is fun to play casually, but for someone who has been playing BW, watching competitive SC2 is awful, disgusting and I found myself facepalming at each new feature they added/removed from the game. It is enraging.

But it is ok. I just stopped playing it, stopped following it and forgot about it, except the fact that I flushed US$60 down the toilet. I still have BW to play and to watch and everything is kind of okay, even if they ADD SC2 to Proleague its okay, I might even check a game someday to see if I change my mind.

Now, if KeSPA slowly replace BW with SC2 then its just over. In my eyes, the era of the competitive eSports sinks with BW.

We then will be hostages of Browder's 'creative mind'.

gg

Amen, brother.
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 16:52:25
January 24 2012 16:47 GMT
#275
On January 25 2012 00:56 Acer1791 wrote:
cant believe why so many people like lol more than sc2..
sc2 is much more competitive than lol.
its clear to say bw>sc2>lol


Everything else being equal, a team game is always more popular than individual game though. ( yes i know, in starcraft, teams have crucial role with practice and strategies and what not but in essence the game is still 1v1). The same way football/basketball is much more popular than tennis/track/swimming etc. It's always fun to see interactions and even conflicts between teammates. In this sense, I don't really think you can compare LoL and SC2.

Also, it is sad that in BW and SC2, the majority of the viewers don't really play anymore. Heck, even TL staff don't play SC2 anymore ( they play LoL and Dota more as far as i can see) and reddit starcraft are full of people who do not even own the game despite being one of the most active subreddits. That makes it so hard to attract new bloods to the game a few years in. How can you tell someone that the game is fun and worth following when you don't even play the game anymore.

Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
January 24 2012 16:49 GMT
#276
Wow does every single thread in BW general have to turn into BW vs SC2 now? This page doesn't even have any pictures on it . C'mon guys play nice.....
Eiaco
Profile Joined January 2012
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 16:51:16
January 24 2012 16:50 GMT
#277
Its wierd how the BW people are constantly discussing BW vs SC2 whilst the SC2 people have more important things to discuss. Serioulsly, if you enjoy BW, play it and watch it. If you like SC2 play it and watch it. If you like both then do both. If you hate both then fuck off away from me.

User was warned for this post
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
January 24 2012 16:52 GMT
#278
A rumor is a rumor not even worth a thread of its own.. lolz...
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
January 24 2012 16:54 GMT
#279
Most teams have to see that SC2 in proleague/Kespa is at least a possibility. and the teams who are the last to start practising it will be the worst.

It will take months to get used to the different mechanics and micro and get players knowledge even close to the current SC2 S class players.

So what good team wouldnt at least have a few players who are ready to represent their team in SC2 in case it happens? Or do you think they will just keep playing BW hoping everything fixes itself?
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 24 2012 16:54 GMT
#280
On January 25 2012 01:50 Eiaco wrote:
Its wierd how the BW people are constantly discussing BW vs SC2 whilst the SC2 people have more important things to discuss. Serioulsly, if you enjoy BW, play it and watch it. If you like SC2 play it and watch it. If you like both then do both. If you hate both then fuck off away from me.

And i thought australia was upside down land...
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