I think there's a general thread for discussing this already. >.>
GOM vs NANI, an Alternative View Point. - Page 2
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
I think there's a general thread for discussing this already. >.> | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43756 Posts
On December 16 2011 21:59 Rekrul wrote: ban /signed This OP is hilarious. We don't need another new thread about this either >.< | ||
JustPassingBy
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redloser
Korea (South)1721 Posts
On December 16 2011 21:55 thesideshow wrote: baseless conspiracy theory agreed. | ||
HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On December 16 2011 21:50 Azz wrote: This topic will highlight a different point of view and aim to challenge ESPORT fans over questionable issues and view them under a different light. This topics aim is to consider 'all possibilities' and open your mind to the little things that do matter to some people. GOMTV announces a great confusion, but this may simply not be the case. Please do not be influenced by GOMTV's comments or responses as they may be simply untrue and attempt to take advantage of the community's good will. As an organisation, when you announce a decision you provide reasoning behind the decision the moment it bcomes public. What you are seeing here, is a more calculated and knifing approach designed to: Analyse the community's response before deciding upon an announcement which publicly benefits the current position of GOMTV which aims to caters for the majority of the community in a way in which GOM walks out the winner and community leader Do not be fooled. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the reasons behind the process in which GOMTV 'REMOVES & REPLACES Naniwa': A) Maintain GOMTV's 'presence or stature' of being the worldwide premier tournament. Did anyone ever stop to wonder as to why the MLG & GSL transfer every stopped? Step back for a moment and keep an open mind. The majority of viewers GOMTV is aiming to attract is the worldwide market, however GOMTV did not think very strategically when they agreed to player transfers with MLG. If any of you have noticed the amount of viewers watching MLG & GOMTV, you will notice that MLG has only increased its viewership and GOMTV's viewership has declined. There are some legitimate reasons behind this: 1) By agreeing to the player transfer, MLG is able to take 'the very best korean players' and the 'very best foreigners' all at once. The barriers of playing in the United States are far less than the barriers in participating in GSL. This means that you will recieve a much greater and broader range of players worldwide competing, which in turn creates much greater value for the viewer. Additionally, the entire event is cast in ENGLISH! A popular language no doubt! 2) Once upon a time, GSL was 'THE TOURNAMENT'.. And why do you think this is? Very simply, the best of the best remained in Korea and this meant that to see the greatest game play, you would have to tune in to the GSL during an awkward time of day. This gave it 'prestige, desirability and a competitive advantage in having all the best players and talent delivering high quality starcraft 2 gaming'. HOWEVER! The market leaders are changing! Yes, MLG is now closer to the market leader in providing high quality value and entertainment for Esports Viewers. For some time now, MLG has been stealing marketshare of the starcraft 2 viewership numbers. Why watch 'all' the koreans when you can just watch the very best vs players who you know locally, directly or someone from your own region of the world? I can keep talking about this, but lets get down to business. This move by GOMTV is a POWER BASED MOVE and has MOTIVES behind it. What this move is: - A slap in the face to MLG, "We do not have to honour our agreement with you.. And this publicity helps us to achieve this.. It means less top koreans participating in your events and more focus on our events. - Sends a message that GOTMV will not put up with Naniwa but MLG/other tournaments will, hence attempting to 'establish itself as the premier tournament or maintain higher status within the minds of its market' We are above dealing with conflict mentality. - Cultural Discrimination: Both Idra and Sen have been affiliated with Korea for some time now, and Naniwa has not. Naniwa broke NO RULES, if GOMTV were not interested in playing this move to their advantage, they would simply modify the rules for future events. GOMTV is telling us all, that WHEN THEY FEEEEEL like it, they will disadvantage you. In many countries & regions around the world, the rules are what matter, and if the rules do not suffice, you change them. [B] According to this quote, Naniwa is being discriminated against based upon 'Korean Values' rather than any legitimate issue. If Naniwa wants to probe rush, then its his strategic choice to do so. He even GGd, infact someone who just 'leaves the game' is more or less likely worse. Additionally, how about all those players who 'don't leave the game when its over'... What Naniwa did may be frowned upon, but it was clearly within his right to do what he did, and GOMTV is just using this 'legitimate match' to further there own agenda and discriminate against Naniwa. [b] Do not be fooled by GOM's true motives, they are an organisation and are out to profit in both the short term and the long term. It can be very easy to just go along and say 'I support GOM and back them 100%'. Yes they may support community interests, but this does not mean you should not consider all possibilities on the table, GOM will be adapting a strategy against MLG as a competitor in 2012, wait and see. Player Rights have not been considered in this topic, and Naniwa would have a 'Strong Legal Standing' in regards to this incident should it go to court. Once again, Naniwa is being discriminated against by Korean culture or Corporate power play. I QUOTE: 'as laid out in the paragraph above'. If it DOES NOT MATCH with your paragraph above, then please feel free to publicize this, rather than defining your own principles as you go along. Whatever suits your needs is your definition according to how you have handled this. I am deeply disappointed in GOM for the way it is acting. Wow. You are taking this WAYYYYY too far. This isn't some sort of soap opera. GomTV's relationship with MLG is different from your perspective of it. MLG simply allows koreans to bask in the light of international community while GomTV is no doubt a place where foreigners and koreans alike duke it out for the top places. Also, it serves as a place for foreigners to be exposed to the korean community. That's why, some of the koreans appear in MLG on their own will. Top koreans invited by MLG serves as a way to promote the tournament, but the main focus is on how up and coming foreigners take on those powerhouses. Naniwa's case can be viewed by both sides of the coin. He is BOTH wrong and right. Why so? Being a foreigner himself, he is excused from those korean values and tradition. This makes him right in a sense as that game with nestea would have gone nowhere if it was other foreigners (excluding white-ra, he is too kind). What would IdrA do in that situation? He would be hot-headed, doing cheeses. However, being in a KOREAN tournament, this implies that Naniwa have to be mannered and stuff, so that it shows he respect his opponents etc etc, therefore making him wrong in this situation. Both koreans and foreigners have their own stand in this incident as this is traditions VS modern ideas. | ||
BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
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ParkBomLove
Korea (South)22 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
![]() I really do. I think it's time for you to take your head out of the sand and look around you - the world is actually a wonderful place. As for all that stuff you wrote - I don't even know where to start man. No, I don't think GomTV made this call out of monetary reasons or to bitchslap MLG. Yes, Naniwa didn't broke any rules, but what he did was offensive not only towards GomTV, Nestea or the korean audience in general. I got offended by this as well. In fact, I got so mad, that if I were in Mr. Chae' shoes, I would've applied at least 6 months ban to Naniwa and then pushed all possible buttons in my relation with MLG to make them follow my example. Naniwa's play before that game was brilliant and only luck denied him to be a victor. He has nothing to be ashamed of those 3 losses. They were darn good games. But that final game vs. Nestea ... Seriously, he needs help. | ||
human_ko
Russian Federation676 Posts
Don't be fooled, Indeed! | ||
Ninjahoe
Sweden148 Posts
![]() Then i started reading ":/" Finished reading " ![]() Dude did you think through what you just wrote? You have provided no proof on your theories. GOMtv doesn't show their viewership publicaly. How do you know it has decreased? | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Azz
Australia65 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Your opinion is ridiculous, baseless assumptions everywhere. | ||
CallmeMuppet
Ireland176 Posts
Finally the proof that this topic is more than dead, please stop making posts like this. | ||
0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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human_ko
Russian Federation676 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On December 16 2011 22:08 Probe1 wrote: I'm glad I read the comments before the OP. That saved me from taking this too seriously. same, i always read comment first to see if it's worth reading | ||
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