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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:47:54
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#881
imo they're make an example of him - noone's ever going to do this again now. Hopefully they'll also try to fix the matter of pointless games.
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#882
still buy tickets next year
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Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#883
well,, that's what happens,, no need to whine,, no need to cheer,, fucking move forwards,, *sigh*
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#884
On December 14 2011 19:46 probablywrong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:41 bana wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:37 Legace wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:30 mgl0x9 wrote:
A Korean player WOULD NEVER do this and everyone knows it


Choya, Byun and CoCa.

They would never...


Choya did it on LADDER

Byung, CoCa in a ONLINE cup, which was for nothing, CoCa loses 1 game on purpose, but won the series anyway.




To qualify for Code B, ladder ranking on the KR server is actually important.

Byun and Coca did it in a tournament where there was a Code A seed on the line.

there was no code a seed on the line
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#885
Did gom just make this rule up? This is a total embarrassment for esports and the GSL. Does this mean that mule bombs, manner nexus, and /dance is banned from GSL?
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#886
On December 14 2011 19:45 XRaDiiX wrote:
GOMTV Needs to Rescind their Decision/Ruling i don't think this will stand

A lot of people are angry. Too harsh of a decision...

IMO they decided on this way too fast and they probably won't rescind their decision either since they have already contacted Sen
ChoboKal
Profile Joined September 2011
United States74 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#887
I cant wait until a month from now when Naniwa is back in and everyone who says they are not going to by the season pass end up buying it and make GOM more money that way lol. Talk about backfire hahahahaha
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#888
On December 14 2011 19:38 Leeoku wrote:
that isn't abusive... wut

This is my issue, you have certain wordings in a rulebook so people understand what they can and cannot do, you dont change them after the fact because you're upset. It just smacks of immaturity just like Naniwa's actions.
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#889
On December 14 2011 19:45 leBIGcrab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:41 CuSToM wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:39 leBIGcrab wrote:
To people supporting Gom TV : Stop being such awful pricks and sucking korean *****.

Banning Naniwa IS UNFAIR. Get over it omg.


Sounds like you're the one that needs to get over it.

Throwing a game IS UNPROFESSIONAL especially when you're a progamer.

All these people whining about not wanting to buy tickets cause Naniwa isn't going to be in Code S next season: did you feel like you got your money's worth after what he did last night?


You're an idiot. Read my other posts. I dislike Naniwa and what he did wasn't good.

But they shouldn't ban him from Code S. That's what i defend.

You want to be professional GOM? Write motherfucking clear rules.


Well you know your argument is garbage when you have to resort to name calling to defend it.

Maybe you should learn to read. He wasn't banned from GSL or Code S, his Code S seed that was GIVEN to him for GSL January was revoked.
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rtem
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland54 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#890
Sad to see a protoss go but glad that gom is setting some standards. The fact that the format sucked doesn't give a free pass to do anything. There is a time and place for statements and as far as Im concerned that isn't in game.
hYrasD
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany164 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#891
On December 14 2011 19:44 snailz wrote:
GOMTV lost a lot of love today

Nani lost a lot more love yesterday
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Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#892
On December 14 2011 19:47 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:46 TheDwf wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:45 Medrea wrote:
So Gom is removing people's Code S for doing certain strats?

Are you seriously calling probe rush a “strat”?


Good one beats a 6 pool. Something to think about.

he probably shouldn't have said he threw it then
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Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#893
On December 14 2011 19:45 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:44 snailz wrote:
GOMTV lost a lot of love today

nope, actually the opposite. They gained a lot of respect for treating all players the same. Naniwa broke a rule so he got punished for it.


He didn't break any rules. Yes, that 'one rule about professionalism'. Which is a strange rule because it doesn't describe anything. In the end, it gives GOM the option to ban a player according to this rule without explaining why the person was banned. In this case it is obvious (although I don't agree) but such rules are not good for a proffessional organisation. The rule should be explained in much more detail. At this moment, it just says 'if we don't like you, you can get banned'. Brilliant.
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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#894
On December 14 2011 19:39 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:35 tetrismaan wrote:
GSL will never be "Global" if every player has to adapt to the Koreans. Why not just call it KSL then. God fucking damnit this is just killing eSport.

Don't they know how much viewers they would have gotten from keeping naniwa in Code S? After this "Incident" everyone would want to watch his performances in Code S. This is just such a bad descision both for the fans of eSport, but also for GOM as a business.


I don't think that demanding a certain level of professionalism and sportsmanship is demanding players to adapt to the Koreans. Also GSL is not killing esports, they are growing it probably more so than any other league in the world short of possibly MLG. Yes they could'dve sold a few more tickets if they kept naniwa in code s, but they would've lost a lot of tickets from the koreans who are very offended by what he did. And really saying "they could've sold more tickets if they didn't do anything" is a horrible mentality to have to try and say they should've let him get away with being BM and disrespectful and throwing a game on purpose.


So players showing up drunk or win trading or throwing games but not owning up to it is promoting proffessionalism?
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Ledcaveman
Profile Joined March 2011
100 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#895
LOL SUCH A JOKE HAHAHHAHAHA
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#896
People blaming the format really just don't make much sense. I guarantee you there are quite a few people out there who bought the Blizzard Cup ticket because they're Nestea or Naniwa fans and they saw that they were in the same group and were going to play - it was obviously a pretty hyped up match if Twitter(Quantic hyping it on their Twitter before the game) and previews are to believed. If they just didn't play the match out because it didn't matter then I GUARANTEE some people would of complained about that - people payed money to see it, Naniwa fucked them over, end of story really.

Also the Naniwa fans that are trying to like, threaten that they will stop watching GSL because of it are kind of funny. I mean, they're a drop in the bucket compared to the legions of Idra and Sen fans that will watch now because they're in.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:51:26
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#897
EDIT: Fuck, whatever.
I don't know why I get sucked into this drama bullshit all the time. TL had me spoiled about the whole arguing with people on the internet thing. I ain't used to it.

Nani Hwaiting.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#898
On December 14 2011 19:37 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:35 Vansetsu wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:20 jalstar wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:18 MrCash wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:15 jalstar wrote:
If Naniwa only cares about prize money then why does he regularly forfeit prize money matches at MLG, eg 7th vs 8th place matches?

Naniwa cares about getting 1st, there's a huge difference between that and caring only about prize money.


I've heard so many say this about Naniwa, but never once from him.
Honestly this feels like some self-justification for being unprofessional he tells his friends and I don't really see anything that makes this theory more legitimate then him simply being oblivious and selfish.


You didn't answer. If Naniwa only cares about getting prize money (Chae called him an "amateur prize-money hunter") then why does he forfeit consolation matches for prize money?


Whether it's prize money or not, Naniwa is being selfish. He's there to preform and play games. Think of it like this: Have you ever had a job that involved a commission? It's kind of like Nani's job as a gamer playing in GSL. Sometimes there's money with a game (consumer), sometimes there's not and it's a waste of time. But it's never an excuse not to do your job or deal with a consumer because there is no money it it this time, and it's always grounds to get your ass fired.


Naniwa sees his job as winning tournaments, not playing games for the sake of playing games. You might agree with that and you might not.


Too bad he's not good at doing either of those. His 0-10 record at the GSL speaks for itself.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:50:17
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#899
LOL....

My mind is fucking blown by this decision... I can't believe the way they've tried to justify this under an unbelievably vague rule.

GOMTV... You guys should be lawyers because that is some skilful abuse of your existing ruleset to punish something you don't agree with.

How about you deal with the cause of the issue by the way? i.e. the stupidity that is playing dead rubber matches... and Bo1 group stages.....................

EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
December 14 2011 10:48 GMT
#900
Well he had it coming for him.
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