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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 14 2011 10:45 GMT
#841
On December 14 2011 19:44 snailz wrote:
GOMTV lost a lot of love today

And gained a lot of love today!
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
December 14 2011 10:45 GMT
#842
On December 14 2011 19:42 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:39 ptrpb wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:36 bana wrote:
Remebering TSLRain / FnaticRain ? He was disqualified from code S (or whole GSL) for 2 seasons just because of not showing up in the group drawings

Yes but those are important and worth something. Rain put GOM in an awkward position when he said he'd be there and then wasn't there.
Based on some of the things that have been said, NaNiwa told GOM he was going to forfeit the match because it was meaningless and they still put him out there to play that meaningless match, so GOM put themselves in that situation and then punished NaNiwa

Naniwa put GOM in that situation. He agreed to play all the games. He agreed to their rules. Then at the last minute he said "Fuck it I'm gonna throw this game" and GOM said you're going to play the game as you agreed to. They probably knew then they'd ban him if he did.

Naniwa did this to himself. He agreed to the terms. He didn't abide by the rules of the tournament (unfit for progamer rule). He got banned for it.

The fucking casters didn't even know the game was going to be played and they WORK for GOMtv. Khaldor and Moletrap explicitly said "looks like Nestea and Naniwa will not be happening because doesn't change anything in the groups", they later said "Oh no, it's going on".
If GOM really wants to enforce so many meaningless matches, why don't the bo5 in the Blizz cup go for all 5 games? I mean they don't change anything about who won but it's still a match!
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:46:26
December 14 2011 10:45 GMT
#843
So is the ban for a year or just January? I thought it was only January, but I`ve heard the year ban thrown around. Im very confused.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:48:08
December 14 2011 10:45 GMT
#844
Jesus, all he had to do was proxy 2gate instead of probe rush if he didn't care and wanted to get the game over with and none of this shitstorm would have happened. Seems ridiculous to revoke something as precious as a Code S spot for a relatively minor and inconsequential offense. They're acting as if he punched one of the korean commentators or something.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Chickaboom
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
December 14 2011 10:45 GMT
#845
good decision GOM, as professionals they have to do this, even though their tournament system is flawed by having this useless game, they must follow the rules and they must still remain professional, naniwa decided to play the tournament and follow GOM rules...but he didnt so he deserves a penalty
dattebayo!
Telefonmann
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany111 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#846
Did Idra took Naniwas spot or did Sen?

was Idra qualified cause of IEM China? or just revenue..PR etc ...and how was Sen chosen....
synkronized
Profile Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#847
On December 14 2011 19:29 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:25 synkronized wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:18 Vari wrote:
I actually can't wait to buy my ticket now

give the spot to someone that deserves it and doesn't turn into a child when they lose

someone with pride in themselves and their team

Idra does the early gg in EG Master's cup games, games that affect his whole team's record.
Idra's gg'd won games and has spewed an unprovoked "Fuck you" to MouzMana in the IPL, broken his keyboard after losing to Trimaster along with a slew of other immature reactions.

Idra's getting a Code S spot. He doesn't sound like a paragon of mature behavior after losing to me. Face it, Naniwa got crucified.

Yeah none of that had anything to do with the GSL. While Idra was still competing in Korea he was always respectful. Heck, GOM even made a farewell video for him. Being a BW player who trained there, he very well knows the standards for pro players in Korea.

Amusing. So it's ok for Idra to not give a shit and act like a prick in a tournie hosted by his own team when the team's relying on him to win a set? I'm glad shows such deference to Koreans and shits on the guys sporting the same colors.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#848
On December 14 2011 19:44 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:41 GhostLink wrote:
Guys, GOM PAYED Naniwa to play all of his games, no matter how meaningless they are. What he did was plain disrespect to GOM, viewers, and his opponent, who practiced hard for that match. It's not like he was banned from GSL, he can still go through Code A qualifiers, so it seems perfectly reasonable.


I do think they should have fined him the prize money for not taking the games seriously. But the Code S seed was won a month ago at MLG, it's a completely different issue. It's not even really an invite, he qualified for Code S by one of the explicit means possible.

A fine is payed by his team though. That was takled about on state of the game. What would that teach him?
the bruvler
Profile Joined January 2009
16 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#849
On December 14 2011 19:43 Eury wrote:
Btw GSL can fuck off due to inviting Idra just to try to please the masses after their dumb decision to ban Naniwa.

Just shows what cynical and condescending attitude they have to their "foreign" audience.

Well said, exactly how I feel. I thought they were cool
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#850
they should apologise lack of professionalism for that format -,-
DeMusliM !!!
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#851
Perfecly fine with this decision .Didn't agree with the decision to give him a Code S Spot for MLG Providence in the first place cause the stupid MLG System with the seeding gave him a giant advantage . Not sure how i feel about Sen and Idra getting free Code S Spots but oh well.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#852
there's also no rule that says you can't take a shit in your own booth. i think someone needs to do it so they can criticize GOM for not putting a rule in place to prevent that from happening.
iCemiLo
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore94 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#853
On December 14 2011 19:45 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:44 Malpractice.248 wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:42 cosmincontra wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:37 CuSToM wrote:
Haha why are people saying they want to refund their ticket etc? Naniwa wasn't going to go anywhere in Code S anyways so what is the big deal?

Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen...

because they dont want to support an organization that screws their favourite players

Then maybe their favorite players shouldnt fuck around in a professional atmosphere and give up entirely,. throwing a match, making it less fun for the viewers?


But he's from sweden, so everyone from sweden will support him no matter what he does.


fanboys will be fanboys.
nightss
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia87 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#854
Everyone seriously needs to calm down, gomtv saw this as offensive and decided to ban him. Its their tournament and their decision. If you don't want to watch their tourney anymore don't, all you are doing is gimping yourself of great starcraft 2.
Christopher Hitchens <3 Rest in peace comrade
tarodotoxin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#855
i dont like naniwa.... but this wasnt against the rules
naniwa should stick up for himself
admit he was wrong, but say that taking him out is completely unfair since what he did was completely legal.
how pathetic.
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#856
Im really not bent out of shape by Naniwa's actions but its still his job, and he didnt perform. This is his employer docking his pay as a result. This is life, doesnt matter if its a video game or not, it is still his profession and he broke the rules outlined by his "employer". It could be a little harsh but GOM has every right to discipline him and when honor and conduct are so important to the Koreans, Naniwa really should have though a bit more about his actions before he did it.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#857
On December 14 2011 19:45 Medrea wrote:
So Gom is removing people's Code S for doing certain strats?

Are you seriously calling probe rush a “strat”?
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#858
On December 14 2011 19:41 Quasimoto3000 wrote:
You're kidding right? Was Nal_Ra banned when he probe rushed?

I payed to see NaniWa pay Mr. Chae. I will now ask for a refund.



Nal_ra won that game since he was actually trying to win, unlike Naniwa. Probes have shield regen and a longer range than SCVs.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#859
On December 14 2011 19:44 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:42 NGrNecris wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:37 CuSToM wrote:
Haha why are people saying they want to refund their ticket etc? Naniwa wasn't going to go anywhere in Code S anyways so what is the big deal?

Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen...

Pure speculation. Who are you to say he won't do well?


His 1-12 GSL record tells me.


As well ash is 0-3 Blizzard Cup performance, ignoring the 4th intentional game drop.
Korea seems like one intense environment for one to perform in.
So many great player choke when they get there.
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:47:02
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#860
I think GOM decision is very good, Naniwa had to be punished for his behavior... 1 season is ok duration I tough it will be longer but still I dont think Naniwa will learn anything he was banned from few leagues in his life, he was dropped from 7+ teams, and hes still naniwa. His future is grim, soon there will be no team that would sign with him, or tournaments that will allow him to play.
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