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densha
United States797 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:26 Benga wrote: i hope they realize what they're doing is wrong,losing potential money thus withdraw their decision I think it's better if they lose potential money and stick by their decision. GSL is legit. | ||
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ilikeLIONZ
Germany427 Posts
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:24 namste wrote: Hey nice point there, too bad it makes absolutely no sense at all. Except it does. Koreans get preferential treatment. They get to have a translator standing there, they can bring their own translator and he can save them from saying stupid things from a PR standpoint. Plus all foreigners regardless of their country of origin are pretty much expected to answer interviews in English, Koreans should too, and if they can't it's obviously they're not fit to participate in the Foreign leagues. | ||
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Jurassic
Hungary79 Posts
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:24 Lunareste wrote: Then maybe he shouldn't have disrespected GOM and the GSL by basically walking out and not giving a shit about their competition. Just saying. Seems like a stupid idea to me. Except he did give a shit about their competition. His entire point was that at that stage there was no competition so he didn't bother either | ||
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Lakai
Canada315 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:22 SilverLeagueElite wrote: He kinda put Gom in a hard position. Punish Naniwa, foreign fans get butthurt. Don't punish him, Koreans get butthurt. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Not if they properly justified their decision, then no one has an actual reason to complain. Booting a player for the integrity of the competition and then fathering in two players without proper qualification is probably the dumbest thing GOM could have done. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:22 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Wouldn't Manner Mules be considered Disrespect and insulting to the other player? I guess I am happy that this will get out of the way. Since worker rushing is a great offense. The difference is that for the audience it is fun to watch people drop mules and /dance (pros outweigh the cons)...Naniwa didn't give the audience a game and should of just said he forfeited or something instead of blatantly throwing the match. Obviously the rule is there so they can easily get rid of actions that they don't want to see while still having a rule to stand behind. I'm not agreeing that what they did was right, but trying to find other things that are disrespectful isn't really meaningful for the discussion. The discussion is worker rushing against the rules and punishable, not what else is disrepectful and insulting that gom doesn't punish. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:23 babo213 wrote: Some of you guys are ridiculous with your 'arguments' Use some common sense. That's just the thing, they are using something in their rules and bending it to just kick out whoever they want. If they'd follow their rules, mule drops, manner nexus is all pretty damn offensive to the opponent. | ||
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Candide
456 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:26 TOCHMY wrote: exactly... band MVP for the mule drops, ban everyone doing ling/rine/zealot dance... pft. Im so upset T_T oh my... | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:26 TOCHMY wrote: exactly... band MVP for the mule drops, ban everyone doing ling/rine/zealot dance... pft. Im so upset T_T They are just bending their rules to act like they would have a basis to punish naniwa for stating his opinion on a live-show. Imo such action just hardens the stereotype of censoring-asian-countries. Thanks GOM, it makes me hate you  | ||
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akari
United States65 Posts
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AnTiX
France29 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:05 Grettin wrote: I assume you mean Korea? Yup, thats why Korea is miles ahead compared to everyone else when it comes to E-sports. "Amateurish" is not the best word to describe Korea and E-sports. And Naniwa's mind set is miles ahead compared to many progamers. He is not here for the money at all. He stays in Korea not because he likes it, not because his life is better there. No, he plays there to be the best. He is one of the most dedidacted player out there. And still GOM stated, he is an amateur prize hunter... | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:28 Demonace34 wrote: The difference is that for the audience it is fun to watch people drop mules and /dance (pros outweigh the cons)...Naniwa didn't give the audience a game and should of just said he forfeited or something instead of blatantly throwing the match. Obviously the rule is there so they can easily get rid of actions that they don't want to see while still having a rule to stand behind. I'm not agreeing that what they did was right, but trying to find other things that are disrespectful isn't really meaningful for the discussion. The discussion is worker rushing against the rules and punishable, not what else is disrepectful and insulting that gom doesn't punish. I watched the game live and I was laughing the entire 1 minute 23 seconds or whatever it was one of the most entertaining games I have seen. It was so bad it was hilarious... | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
I think the punishment is very fit for what he did. | ||
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RaizeL
Canada5 Posts
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Haze.884
New Zealand192 Posts
Koreans (me being one of them) have a high expectation of 'pros' the 'pro mindset' is one of the thing that is expected. And one part of being pro is to give one's best in every matches. Some might argue, Nani 4 gating is the same thing as this probe rush. However, as a Korean, I dont see it that way. Nani's 7probe rush cant even win. And he was playing with one hand as well. This shows extreme disrespect for the league and the audience. If he had 4 gated, he might have got some flak for that. But not this much. Anyways, he is not 'banned'. His seed is merely revoked. I hope Nani does well in other tourneys | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:29 AnTiX wrote: And Naniwa's mind set is miles ahead compared to many progamers. He is not here for the money at all. He stays in Korea not because he likes it, not because his life is better there. No, he plays there to be the best. He is one of the most dedidacted player out there. And still GOM stated, he is an amateur prize hunter... Im pissed off that people think 'prize hunter' is a negative thing. | ||
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msl
Germany477 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:28 dapierow wrote: Face it, the punishment was so severe because of the fact that the community was so outrated and vocal about it... You guys have yourselves to blame, and now you feel sorry that this happened to Nani and blame GOM... Quite Pathetic actually, how the community always looks for small to exaggerate and blame organizations because the community can never be held responsible. The Coca and this incident are to appease the community because the fact is, if its not done, there is outrage, and if there is something done, there is still outrage Really? So a judging body (which GOM made itself) should just listen to whoever shouts loudest and therefor not be responsible for misjudgements? | ||
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:28 densha wrote: I think it's better if they lose potential money and stick by their decision. GSL is legit. so legit that they give code S spots to foreigners to get more views | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:29 AnTiX wrote: And Naniwa's mind set is miles ahead compared to many progamers. He is not here for the money at all. He stays in Korea not because he likes it, not because his life is better there. No, he plays there to be the best. He is one of the most dedidacted player out there. And still GOM stated, he is an amateur prize hunter... Who cares? GOM is an amateur TV-production if nani is an amateur prize-hunt which throws us back about 5-10 years in the developtment of eSports. | ||
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