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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#201
On December 14 2011 19:15 TOCHMY wrote:
"- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours"

How is probe-rushing an unimportant match offending the audience or opponent?

Sigh....


Every mule drop ever.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#202
On December 14 2011 19:16 LXR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:52 namste wrote:
I'm gonna buy the yearly ticket now to support Gom, glad that they have standards. Gom fighting!

this. I have much more respect for GOM now knowing that they're this devoted to the quality of e-sports. I can only commend them for being upset at naniwa. they're trying to create a high quality piece of entertainment and naniwa just comes in and shits on everything? screw him...

Yeah on the one hand I respect them for that but on the other hand I reaaaaally dislike them handing out Code S spots based on pure popularity (to Sen and Idra lol) and not to more deserving players
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
AZKziek
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia64 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#203
Chances are I'll get banned for the language I'm about to use... but...
FUCK YOU GOMTV.
You've just lost so many viewers.

User was temp banned for this post.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#204
On December 14 2011 19:16 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:10 Badboyrune wrote:
This is just beyond stupid.

Yes, was Naniwa did was pretty idiotic. However what GOM is doing is first of all denying any responsibility. The classy thing for GOM to do would have been to make an announcement in the style of "We recognize that at least some part of the Naniwa issue lies on our behalf with a format that was not completely thought through. We do however not condone the type of behaviour that Naniwa displayed in his match against Nestea and therefore he will be receiving X." - where X is a harsh warning or a minor penalty.

Instead they're sinking to Naniwas level by taking away a spot in a tournament that has no relation to this one, that he had earned in a tournament not related to this one.

And people bringing up the difference in culture do have somewhat of a valid point. However they also need to consider that GOM is marketing their tournaments as international tournaments, actively trying to bring foreign players into their tournaments. Considering this they should have some leniency with foreign culture and try to meat foreigners maybe not half way but at least somewhere along the road when it comes to culture. It doesn't seem quite reasonable to expect people who have been there for such a short amount of time to be able to fully understand and abide to all Korean cultures and values.


"they're sinking to Naniwas level". so you're defending Naniwa while accusing GOM of sinking to his level? what?


Yes, how doesn't that make sense? Two wrongs don't make one right. If someone does something stupid, is it the right thing to do to be equally stupid back?
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#205
On December 14 2011 19:17 perestain wrote:
too bad gom values entertainment over competition.

hurts the legitimacy of the sport abit imo.

but money comes first i guess.


that doesn't even make sense. they're banning a player knowing it will decrease viewership for the sake of upholding their rules.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#206
I think Nani was just made an example of, GSL and the scene in korea has a ton of pride and feel like they can't let it slide. I wonder if it would of been different if it wasn't against Nestea?

Both sides are to blame, Nani should of just played the game out even if it was less than 15 min game all-in and GSL needs to make sure that their format isn't so shitty that the players have to play "pointless matches".
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#207
I don't think GOM should do it, but it is their right.

I feel that there is double standards at work since MC/Stephano should get some type (pun!) punishment for writing stuff in game. But whatever.

I will continue to watch GSl though but my motivation to buying tickets just dropped off by a couple of percents..
Seohyun fan
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#208
I expected Naniwa to escape punishment because he is a foreigner.
billz
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom63 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#209
Gom should have given Nani a token financial fine too then - fine him a thousand dollars and he won't do it again.
Pie > Cake
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:18:54
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#210
Well, if there actually is some rule than Naniwa is pretty screwed.. not much more to say here
iCemiLo
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore94 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#211
so many people throwing hissy fits threatening to cancel their subscription...

oh you gotta love the drama
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#212
Why does it bother you guys that NaNiwa is being tossed from GSL January?

It isn't like NaNiwa has any respect for GOM or their tournaments.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#213
Isn't that the exact same punishment Coca got for fixing a match?
Lakai
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada315 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#214
On December 14 2011 19:11 Zzoram wrote:
Apparently MLG was really close to disqualifying him at Providence against Nestea because of his pause and calling MLG a "joke tournament" but they decided against it.

GOM just did what MLG didn't have the guts to do. If a player disrespects your tournament, kick him out for the season.

This has nothing to do with guts. MLG isn't a tournament that will make an exaggerated decision just to set an example for other players. GOM on the other hand justifies most of their decisions on this premise.
HerO - Minigun - MaNa - Puzzle - NonY - Axslav - MKP - DeMusliM - SeleCT - LosirA
hahaimhenry
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada368 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#215
On December 14 2011 19:16 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:14 hahaimhenry wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:12 Xax wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:09 hahaimhenry wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:08 anrimayu wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:07 Zzoram wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:04 billz wrote:
If this was any other sport then lawyers would be consulted right now about lodging legal proceedings against Gom. Pretty scandalous behaviour from them - can you really imagine Manchester United getting banned from a tournament for fielding a weakened team in a game that doesn't matter?


A better comparison would be if their players just stood still and let the other team score infinite goals.


More like a team just walks out of the stadium as soon as the game starts.


Actually, in PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, useless games aren't even played. If they are, they don't use their starting lines, instead they play their rookies and developing roster. Get your facts right people, stop living in a box.


Yup, and that's also getting punished:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/18/wolves-fined-manchester-united


They punished them for 25,000 euros? LOL, you know how much money football players make?

you can't relate that to this situation because in this case, they're taking the COMPLETELY OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT.


you can't force fines in GSL like you can with sports, but the point is if you don't take games seriously in any sport, you will get punished.

Even useless games


The point is, the punishment was too severe, god people are slow.
:]
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#216
On December 14 2011 19:15 arQ wrote:
Just tweeted mr chae by simply saying: "Will never buy a GSL ticket again, well done".

My small contribution at least.

Just did too. I'm a Naniwa fan so obviously I'm biased but if any other player did the same thing and was punished the same way I'd still do the same. The ruling was so ridiculous
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#217
On December 14 2011 19:18 AZKziek wrote:
Chances are I'll get banned for the language I'm about to use... but...
FUCK YOU GOMTV.
You've just lost so many viewers.

Isn't this the only forum you're not banned from?
Seiber
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore35 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#218
Well done GOM! Gotta lay down the law.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#219
On December 14 2011 19:17 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:15 arQ wrote:
Just tweeted mr chae by simply saying: "Will never buy a GSL ticket again, well done".

My small contribution at least.


your tears amuse me. you know you'll buy a ticket when jinro makes through the qualifier.


I just tweeted him saying that I bought a yearly ticket. :p
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
iglocska
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway589 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#220
On December 14 2011 19:17 perestain wrote:
too bad gom values entertainment over competition.

hurts the legitimacy of the sport abit imo.

but money comes first i guess.


Yeah because a player obviously not taking the two biggest tournaments seriously enough to show a hint of respect towards them and getting absolutely no punishment is not hurting the legitimacy of the sport.
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