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gnuell
Sweden16 Posts
Seeing how well the Starcraft I and WarCraft 3 players have done, it would be interesting to know how the Age players have done. I want to know if players like Arch_Koven, Grunt and IamChris, would be competitive at Sc2? The only Age player I have seen is Capoch who I ran into on the ladder playing GM on the NA server. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
Capoch was "good" in the beta when 4 gate was strong, ever since 4 gate is a free win he hasn't done anything in tournaments. And idk the other 2 guys. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
Capoch is playing, i see him from time to time in Argentinian events, nw´s etc.. he just qualified for wcg korea this weekend. Daut was playing SC2 was pretty high in GM on EU, but i think he stopped playing some time ago , dont know why  i wish brazilian beasts like Alive started playing zerg! that would be fucking awesome.. wasnt BlinG from aoc brazilian ? the bling from sc2 isnt.. | ||
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unjugon
Spain119 Posts
I am farily sure Chris is not playing many games, much less competitively, except a game of AoE2 every now and then for kicks. I would be surprised to see Koven or Grunt in SC2, but would be exciting. Other old timer like Kkab, Halen, Mimmox would be great to see, but some of them must be close to 30 now. Daut used to appear in SC2 ladder a year ago, he was doing very decently. I think Ruso has played some SC2 too. From AoE3 I have no idea. | ||
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unjugon
Spain119 Posts
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FluXen
Canada210 Posts
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Lobber
Canada414 Posts
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debasers
737 Posts
Didn't even know there was a competitive community | ||
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Remb
United States190 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:10 Roe wrote: I remember Artosis saying he played age of empires somewhat competitively. I played Age but I'm not sure if you're interested in that. (high diamond) Artosis was one of the best in the world for AoE | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
http://www.ageofempires3-alliance.com/Artosis.3336.0.html I love that pic hehe | ||
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debasers
737 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Roe wrote: Actually I just found Artosis on AoE3. It's an interview from about 6 years ago. http://www.ageofempires3-alliance.com/Artosis.3336.0.html I love that pic hehe wow, what a find. Love it | ||
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nkulu
United States242 Posts
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:18 Carras wrote: Hi,im an ex-aoc player.. i was only 17+ in voobly when i left (real ranking,not the stupid one they have now..) i could have improved a lot if i had kept on playing , but i passed on to SC2. Capoch is playing, i see him from time to time in Argentinian events, nw´s etc.. he just qualified for wcg korea this weekend. Daut was playing SC2 was pretty high in GM on EU, but i think he stopped playing some time ago , dont know why i wish brazilian beasts like Alive started playing zerg! that would be fucking awesome.. wasnt BlinG from aoc brazilian ? the bling from sc2 isnt.. Nope BlinG from AOC and SC2 are the same person and Daut played SC2 but got a salaried position playing Age of Empires Online | ||
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
Lol that interview is awesome. Favorite part: You should have the option to save the recorded game AFTER you play it. Also, you should be able to watch them online with friends. Replay watching is a huge social thing in StarCraft, and it helps learning if you can discuss it while watching it. Oh really? It's a shame no one told Blizzard this. | ||
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
And I'm Terran, masters in SCII, unrated, Goth/Byz/Teut in AoConquent | ||
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9016 Posts
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:35 Tidus Mino wrote: Nope BlinG from AOC and SC2 are the same person and Daut played SC2 but got a salaried position playing Age of Empires Online that´s sad for daut , that game probably sucks, and is not even close to an esport also..chris had challenged daut to a bo21 in AOC for $500 out of their pockets to see whos the best  , i dont think they have played yet..i think daut is greatest of ALL time,without a daubt (lol) | ||
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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Remb wrote: Artosis was one of the best in the world for AoE Is this for real? Stories please! | ||
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
wich AoE ? | ||
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tripledoubles
Australia213 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:41 Emperor_Earth wrote: The Sheriff was probably AoK/C's BoxeR. I still remember playing Sheriff and maimin_matty in AoE2, if memory serves Marty even ended up working for Ensemble. OP, I was 1750ish in AoE2 and Diamond in SC2, playing casually, if that is of any interest to you. | ||
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Jyaki
Australia170 Posts
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Eliwood5837
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SiCkO_
United States481 Posts
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Beorning
United States243 Posts
. Also, you should be able to watch them online with friends. Replay watching is a huge social thing in StarCraft, and it helps learning if you can discuss it while watching it. | ||
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Attilanator
United States154 Posts
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Tanukki
Finland579 Posts
For a really long time I just did the same rush every game, and pulled the plug when I was losing. Eventually grew some balls and specialized in a Goth infantry style that's kind of like playing swarm-style Zerg :p | ||
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Sabretooth
United States3 Posts
I will allways <3 aoe | ||
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kofman
Andorra698 Posts
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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StavrosHL
Greece128 Posts
 here is a game of him before some days Greatmista Vs MillStephano | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Roe wrote: Actually I just found Artosis on AoE3. It's an interview from about 6 years ago. http://www.ageofempires3-alliance.com/Artosis.3336.0.html I love that pic hehe I downloaded the AOE3 demo in september. I thought that it was pretty fun, and after playing it for a while I realized that it might actually require skill to play well. That made me happy and I played a bunch on the demo. Hahaha that sounds just like him. | ||
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Bonkerz
United States831 Posts
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1hpBuiltForLove
Canada89 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
I've never watched it competitively. I think I might have to check it out. I was okay at AoE3, but I didn't play online very much because I bought BF2 like 2 months after I bought it then went on a BF2 bender for over a year. | ||
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Cyclone999
Canada331 Posts
Now that I have Starcraft II...boy was I wrong (need I talk about Brood War lol) I was around a Master Sergeant, my cousin was a 2nd Lieutenant, we played 2v2 a lot (I didn't think 1v1 was fun). These ranks are for 2v2 btw French forever ^.^ (until I switched to Japan cause Samurai were hella good against Cuirassers) | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 23 2011 10:23 Quasimoto3000 wrote: Hmm I had no idea ape was played competitively... I'm curious, how balanced was/is the game? horribly balanced, and balance patches didn't come for like 6 months rofl... Game was really broken :/. | ||
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sealpuncher
United States130 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 23 2011 10:57 sealpuncher wrote: I was a very high ranked aoe3 player but started out in bronze league in sc2. Completely different game I am curious what was your very high rank? In aoe3 high rank was rank 42 (major general). Which most people in that rank knew about rts sanctuary to. I was a col (36) but they are different games indeed. But I also played bw 7 months prior to sc2. | ||
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Trump
United States350 Posts
On November 23 2011 10:38 1hpBuiltForLove wrote: I heard Trump say before that he played AoE. true aoe was my first RTS. Followed by war2 and aoe2, followed by war3 and aoe3. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Roe wrote: Actually I just found Artosis on AoE3. It's an interview from about 6 years ago. http://www.ageofempires3-alliance.com/Artosis.3336.0.html I love that pic hehe ahaha, from the interview: "Can you tell us your history in the video games? Especially in the Age of series. I come from StarCraft, where I have been playing competitively for 7+ years on and off." For some reason, I thought this was really funny. Like, he can't get his mind off of SC and doesn't even address AoE when asked about his past with it. ;p | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
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fumikey
Canada58 Posts
They have videos and some other rankings @ rornews.net, there's still quite a bit of skill I think. | ||
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FaiL_SaFe
United States104 Posts
I played AoE3 for a couple years, although I was never any good (My best rank was around 2nd-1st Lieutenant-ish). AoE3 was the first game I ever played competitively and I have a ton of fond memories.\ Did anybody here spend time on the various AoE Heaven family of sites? | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
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babyToSS
233 Posts
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:07 Beerdrinker wrote: I was Storm_Panther_ aka KS_Haws in age of empires II and did pretty well. Not Arch Koven or Grunt level, but I played a lot with Chris and Capoch, and I won a tournament, planet age of empires path of the conqueror tournament (which in 2001 had a $500 prize pool). Capoch is the only good AOE2 player I know of that plays SC2, and he was at blizzcon last year representing LA. I have plenty of thoughts on how AOE2 compares to SC2, but I will save them unless there is any interest in them. I am 6 months away from a PhD in Chemistry and I have a 5 month old child, so I am not able to play very much, but I think its the most aoe2-esque game that I've played since that game died. I remember playing in that PAOE tournament, I got smashed by Gx_Kami. I know Gx_Iron played SC2 for a little bit after release, he has competed twice at MLG Dallas for SC2. I think I quit AoE3 right before TWC was released at that time I think i was at PR rank 40 with ELO 2.2k? I forget about the PR stuff but definitely 2.2k ELO. Uh and I guess i was 1800 in AoC and 1900 in AoM(pre-titans). On SC2 release I was top 200 on NA and SEA with zerg but I stopped playing in november 2010. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10325 Posts
Capoch is playing, i see him from time to time in Argentinian events, nw´s etc.. he just qualified for wcg korea this weekend. wcg korea? he's not korean is he? and do u mean qualify for sc2 korea? cus the only ones that made it were like MVP MKP supernova or something i thought o.o | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: wcg korea? he's not korean is he? and do u mean qualify for sc2 korea? cus the only ones that made it were like MVP MKP supernova or something i thought o.o The WCG grand finals are at korea so that's what he meant. He qualified via his own regional WCG to go play at WCG "korea" 2011. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10325 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:17 tangwhat wrote: The WCG grand finals are at korea so that's what he meant. He qualified via his own regional WCG to go play at WCG "korea" 2011. oh, thanks | ||
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Zirith
Canada403 Posts
 Never really pictured it as a competitive platform though, more of a friendly nr 40 min while i make a giant castle and you try to break my cannon line | ||
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bobthebo
101 Posts
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:23 Zirith wrote: It is funny, back when I only had dial up all I did was play black forest in aoe 2, I must have at least 3000 hours logged in the series, havent thought about the game in ages Never really pictured it as a competitive platform though, more of a friendly nr 40 min while i make a giant castle and you try to break my cannon line Competitive AoC was more like 1v1 arabia skirm wars at 10 minutes. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:27 tangwhat wrote: Competitive AoC was more like 1v1 arabia skirm wars at 10 minutes. That's why island maps were where it is at. | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
Was the most fun imo, most diverse civilizations and not as noobyfied as AoE3 (well if you play it without that shitty expansion at least). | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:39 Ragoo wrote: Sad to hear so few people here played Age of Mythology Was the most fun imo, most diverse civilizations and not as noobyfied as AoE3 (well if you play it without that shitty expansion at least).I thought AOM was noobified AOC. They got out of their style of game and tried to be more like warcraft, it didn't make much sense to me. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:46 Beerdrinker wrote: I thought AOM was noobified AOC. They got out of their style of game and tried to be more like warcraft, it didn't make much sense to me. AOM was freaking awesome imo, I mean sure it was out of their style, but it was fun to play as a kid at least. | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:35 Beerdrinker wrote: That's why island maps were where it is at. Awwwww yeah boat booming ruled, definitely my favourite part of AoC(aside from champ flooding??). On November 23 2011 11:46 Beerdrinker wrote: I thought AOM was noobified AOC. They got out of their style of game and tried to be more like warcraft, it didn't make much sense to me. Yeah AoM was a stepback from AoC but AoM looks good in comparison to AoE3. I tried playing AoM a few weeks ago out of nostalgia and damn is that game bad. | ||
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Musketeer
142 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:11 blade55555 wrote: No, no aoe3 players have had any good results in sc2. H20 did in the first beta tournament but quit due to falling behind and the game being to hard for him, TLS had decent results not sure how he is now. The only aoe3 players who used to play it that went to sc2 are me/tsl (aka ourk in sc2) and naugim but don't think he's had any results either. The rest that tried quit (I believe grunt tried but went into military service). Capoch was "good" in the beta when 4 gate was strong, ever since 4 gate is a free win he hasn't done anything in tournaments. And idk the other 2 guys. There are several grandmaster players from AOE3. Edit: I know 3 to be exact - we play SC2 together still. No idea if Ourk is GM, if so that would make 4. AOE3 was such a slow game anyways, so the skills don't really transfer. Those of us who did alright in SC2... I don't think it has to do with experience in AOE3 at all. | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:48 BlueBird. wrote: AOM was freaking awesome imo, I mean sure it was out of their style, but it was fun to play as a kid at least. it certainly wasn't a bad game, but from age of empires to rise of rome to AOK to AOC, each game itterated upon an established economic system. AOM changed a lot of that with introductions of different population units and hero units. It wasn't what I loved in the age of empire series. It was almost a warcraft 3/aoe hybrid. For someone who had spent the better part of 4 years playing age games, it failed to live up to my expectations at the time. | ||
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chaynesore
Australia175 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:50 Musketeer wrote: There are several grandmaster players from AOE3. Edit: I know 3 to be exact - we play SC2 together still. No idea if Ourk is GM, if so that would make 4. AOE3 was such a slow game anyways, so the skills don't really transfer. Those of us who did alright in SC2... I don't think it has to do with experience in AOE3 at all. I don't count GM I used to be GM before I stopped playing on the NA server. I was meaning by tournament results | ||
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Musketeer
142 Posts
On November 23 2011 12:02 blade55555 wrote: I don't count GM I used to be GM before I stopped playing on the NA server. I was meaning by tournament results One of them does pretty well in tournaments, makes money, and participates regularly. Two don't play in tournaments because of school/work commitments. | ||
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Powster
United States650 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
I'd root for any competitive former AOE players. | ||
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zeden
18 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
11 11 I was never good at aoc, 1650+ Now im GM Terran. | ||
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lolterzard
United Kingdom17 Posts
high master protoss now | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
124 Posts
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:09 gnuell wrote: Are there any former Age of Empires players that have transitioned to SC2? Seeing how well the Starcraft I and WarCraft 3 players have done, it would be interesting to know how the Age players have done. I want to know if players like Arch_Koven, Grunt and IamChris, would be competitive at Sc2? The only Age player I have seen is Capoch who I ran into on the ladder playing GM on the NA server. If I remember right, koven was a professional SF player in Korea and he only played AoE casually (but still better than other 99%). | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:05 lolterzard wrote: I used to play AOE1 at a pretty high level, but people really started to drop off until the only people still playing where either really really bad or insanely good. high master protoss now Yeah, <3 Age of Empires 1 death match is where you learn true micro, it's even harder to micro than Brood War Especially in Choson wars, controlling 50-100 legions at once | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:10 SafeAsCheese wrote: Yeah, <3 Age of Empires 1 death match is where you learn true micro, it's even harder to micro than Brood War Especially in Choson wars, controlling 50-100 legions at once Yeah Aoe of Empires 1 was my first RTS. I thought the game was pretty bad though Everyone kept picking got damn choson. Legions were so damn cost effective in that game. | ||
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
Not sure how much he plays SC2 but he's master league with protoss. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:13 Silentness wrote: Yeah Aoe of Empires 1 was my first RTS. I thought the game was pretty bad though Everyone kept picking got damn choson. Legions were so damn cost effective in that game. Friken Choson like their Legions had so much more health.... Now AoE 2....Koreans OP War Wagon/Turtle Ship are friken IMMORTAL!!!!! I like Chinese cuz you start with 7 workers instead of 4 | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:20 Blasterion wrote: Friken Choson like their Legions had so much more health.... Now AoE 2....Koreans OP War Wagon/Turtle Ship are friken IMMORTAL!!!!! I like Chinese cuz you start with 7 workers instead of 4 Frikkin Koreans -_-. I never played any of the AOEs Competitively, just tons of LANs with friends . Those were the days....... | ||
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BBQSAC
Australia89 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:27 GinDo wrote: Frikkin Koreans -_-. I never played any of the AOEs Competitively, just tons of LANs with friends . Those were the days.......their towers were awesome, they could hit elite cannon galleons iirc. did anyone use scorpions or mangonels? | ||
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riff
United States113 Posts
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QQNoRE
United States21 Posts
My old Zone akas: Spy_Tree, VFC_Thug, My_Hope, Nbk_Phantom, mexih. I played the game off and on for twelve years, I really wish e-sports was as big then as it is now. If anyone recognizes any of my akas, please feel free to pm me. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:30 Roe wrote: their towers were awesome, they could hit elite cannon galleons iirc. did anyone use scorpions or mangonels? Of course they get free tower upgrades.... War Wagons that out range Town Centers and Turtle ships that never die. And it's only a bonus that their Imperial Racial Research is Extra Siege Range. | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:40 McKTenor13 wrote: I played AoE a lot, but the only thing it got me was a love for making walls and lots of defense and playing 4 hour games where I take over the entire map. So I don't think it translated well into Sc2 for me. I think terran can play slow like that, and protoss simcity is somewhat reminiscent. The hard part for me was splash dmg and air units are not really found in AOE, so I had no feel for those starting out. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:46 Beerdrinker wrote: I think terran can play slow like that, and protoss simcity is somewhat reminiscent. The hard part for me was splash dmg and air units are not really found in AOE, so I had no feel for those starting out. You've obviously never played against someone massing siege weapons. Heavy Scorpions OP. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:50 Alzadar wrote: You've obviously never played against someone massing siege weapons. Heavy Scorpions OP. I thought Korean Catapults were bad..... | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:50 Alzadar wrote: You've obviously never played against someone massing siege weapons. Heavy Scorpions OP. Onagers were good for removing trees, and thats about it. They were not a backbone of an army like siege tanks are for terran(trebuchets are the closest comparison for that). Scorpians were not used like hellions and colossus are. Outside of DM siege rushes were not viable. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On November 23 2011 14:12 Beerdrinker wrote: Onagers were good for removing trees, and thats about it. They were not a backbone of an army like siege tanks are for terran. Scorpians were not used like hellions and colossus are. Outside of DM siege rushes were not viable. I had fun micro'ing to take 0 dmg from siege shot =P | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 14:16 Blasterion wrote: I had fun micro'ing to take 0 dmg from siege shot =P While we are comparing AOC and SC2, one of my favorite AOC comps was mongol knight/cavalry archer, its kinda like roach/hydra on creep. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On November 23 2011 14:18 Beerdrinker wrote: While we are comparing AOC and SC2, one of my favorite AOC comps was mongol knight/cavalry archer, its kinda like roach/hydra on creep. Amd ChuKoNu/Arbalest is like Marine Marauder. | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:38 Beerdrinker wrote: Any other MFO forum users on here? I read MFO a lot starting from AoK days(mostly anything by DevilZ or DaRq) but I mostly posted on paoe myself. | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 23 2011 14:22 Blasterion wrote: Amd ChuKoNu/Arbalest is like Marine Marauder. This is good, what other natural combos are there? 4-gating with zealot/stalker is kinda like a pikeman/skirm rush. Maybe that one isn't as cut and dry. | ||
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
Unless by just playing them makes me one. :-) AOE was so great... too bad the scene and gameplay never evolved to the level that BW did. | ||
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Indez
Australia37 Posts
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Fleebenworth
463 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:38 Beerdrinker wrote: Any other MFO forum users on here? Hah! I remember spending ridiculous amounts of time on mfo, especially once Dixit started frequenting the console forum | ||
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_spring_
United States7 Posts
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Moa
United States790 Posts
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
loved it so much, will always have a place in my heart | ||
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ButtCraft
United States114 Posts
I bought sc2 and started using the keyboard (lol), and am now in the top 600 of NA as Terran. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
I loved LN too, and i miss those huge random maps that SC2 doesn't have, where you could spawn right next to your enemies or very far away in a map that you would never see again. Every map in SC2 is tiny, everything tidily organized like a girl with obsessive-compulsive-disorder made it. Imo, Aoe2 was the best followed by aoe1. Aoe3 doesn't even come close to those two in terms of gameplay, decks, trading posts, and almost all of the new stuff (apart from the graphics) made it much less fun. Also for all you AoC'ers ou there 14 14 14 and wololooooo 1111111111111111 xD | ||
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Wildsound
United Kingdom144 Posts
"start the game already... start the game already... start the game already..." is the only dominant memory i have from that! That, plus raging when the modem went down or if someone had to use the phone line. | ||
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Vysage
United States117 Posts
Would love to find some first person pro gameplay to see the proper way to handle this game and the apm involved. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:31 nkulu wrote: I played a ton of aoe1 competitively. Back when I played sc2 actively i used to be around top 200 NA. Went by name __Vim on the zone if anyone would remember. Rofl I remember than name! :D | ||
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Huitzi
United States33 Posts
 . Here in SC2 I'm a mid-master terran trying to get GM in season 5/6. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:13 Silentness wrote: Yeah Aoe of Empires 1 was my first RTS. I thought the game was pretty bad though Everyone kept picking got damn choson. Legions were so damn cost effective in that game. What? You clearly didn't play at any kind of good level. There were Cho wars where the rules was simply legions + towers only. But if you were playing a reg-match, an all cho team would have big problems vs a team with a Hittite support, because they had strong catapults + archers and Cho had no way to siege... | ||
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
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xJokeR
Canada1 Post
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R!!
Brazil938 Posts
Now, I wanted to ask what do you guys think of AOE online and how well do you think a mid-masters terran would do over there and if its actually a good (balanced and with a decent skill ceiling) game at all to begin with (I watched a game analyzed by Mista and I thought it was kinda fun). | ||
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Sandro
897 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
Those damned ottomans, stupidly overpowered. Oh, and there are some japanese players which were/are AoE3 players, but they aren't known yet in SC2. The most known is probably Nemuke, who participated in the recent ESWC. | ||
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oli470
United Kingdom22 Posts
StarSky.. Naturephoenix... Zworny... Skipper was especially dominant for a while... GP... Vagabond_Ourk... pG_Fire_de who of course won WCG... the Japanese player Halens.... Shiuatz... the Montreal player Champ... and probably the hands down best mechanics and hardest practiser of the AoE series.... Grunt (surprise surprise he was Korean lol) I also got to PR 32 on AOE3 which isnt as impressive. I didn't stick it too long on that game because i found the home cities aspect ridiculous and the balance even worse . I remember artosis had a bad rep over at rts-sanctuary.com for his BM lol, though I must admit that I find his casting persona to be very likeable these days. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
What did pros use, patrol? I always just right-clicked on my targets. Too pro. :D | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
I was Gx_Iron in Age of Kings and Age of Mythology. I was the US rep for the microsoft world tournament, got 3rd and lost to the Korean player (of course), which was Grunt. That tournament, TEN YEARS AGO, was for FIFTY grand. Crazy right? I was given 8 thousand for my troubles I only played the first 4 or so months of Age of Mythology, but only lost a few times. Capoch was actually the first to beat me using the Ra rain into 3rd age cav archer thing. I still remember staying up in Age of Kings until 5am so that I could play vs the Koreans. Those guys were so nice, Koven, RD_Champ, Grunt, Kaoen (from Tiawan), etc. Loved the Devilz guys and a bunch of others. I was fairly heavily involved in Planet Age and Heaven, writting articles and things like that. After a USA vs Korea match on Korean TV new years eve 2003 I hung it up. (You can actually find the game cast on youtube, its so funny to hear myself talking about a game with korean subtitles running). Anyway, I am mid-upper masters Terran at this time. I "retired" from rts gaming in 2004 and never played age3, war3, or anything else. When SC2 was released, and I saw that trailer with the guy saying "HELL ITS ABOUT TIME", I just said "FUCK YES IT SURE IS!", and bought the game. I love it. I'll never be anything special as a player, but I will always be involved in the community and follow closely. I do hope to get GM at some point but tournament wise, my best days are behind me A big hello to anyone out there that I used to play with | ||
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thekoven
United States128 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Remb wrote: Artosis was one of the best in the world for AoE Under what name? There was no player names 'Artosis' or anything similar who played at a high level in ror, aok or aom. I have no idea about aoe3. | ||
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:12 Eee wrote: Dignitas BlinG This is true, he said so on his stream a couple of times | ||
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 23 2011 11:07 Beerdrinker wrote: I was Storm_Panther_ aka KS_Haws in age of empires II and did pretty well. Not Arch Koven or Grunt level, but I played a lot with Chris and Capoch, and I won a tournament, planet age of empires path of the conqueror tournament (which in 2001 had a $500 prize pool). Capoch is the only good AOE2 player I know of that plays SC2, and he was at blizzcon last year representing LA. I have plenty of thoughts on how AOE2 compares to SC2, but I will save them unless there is any interest in them. I am 6 months away from a PhD in Chemistry and I have a 5 month old child, so I am not able to play very much, but I think its the most aoe2-esque game that I've played since that game died. Howdy Haws. Long time no play. I think the competitve era of age of empires was so many years ago that most old players are extremely rusty now | ||
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oli470
United Kingdom22 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:03 Iron_ wrote: Always good to see an "Age" thread, since I know you are all old I was Gx_Iron in Age of Kings and Age of Mythology. I was the US rep for the microsoft world tournament, got 3rd and lost to the Korean player (of course), which was Grunt. That tournament, TEN YEARS AGO, was for FIFTY grand. Crazy right? I was given 8 thousand for my troubles I only played the first 4 or so months of Age of Mythology, but only lost a few times. Capoch was actually the first to beat me using the Ra rain into 3rd age cav archer thing. I still remember staying up in Age of Kings until 5am so that I could play vs the Koreans. Those guys were so nice, Koven, RD_Champ, Grunt, Kaoen (from Tiawan), etc. Loved the Devilz guys and a bunch of others. I was fairly heavily involved in Planet Age and Heaven, writting articles and things like that. After a USA vs Korea match on Korean TV new years eve 2003 I hung it up. (You can actually find the game cast on youtube, its so funny to hear myself talking about a game with korean subtitles running). Anyway, I am mid-upper masters Terran at this time. I "retired" from rts gaming in 2004 and never played age3, war3, or anything else. When SC2 was released, and I saw that trailer with the guy saying "HELL ITS ABOUT TIME", I just said "FUCK YES IT SURE IS!", and bought the game. I love it. I'll never be anything special as a player, but I will always be involved in the community and follow closely. I do hope to get GM at some point but tournament wise, my best days are behind me A big hello to anyone out there that I used to play with I remember you, you were untouchable at the start of aom! those were the days.. | ||
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Fleebenworth
463 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:03 Iron_ wrote: Always good to see an "Age" thread, since I know you are all old I was Gx_Iron in Age of Kings and Age of Mythology. I was the US rep for the microsoft world tournament, got 3rd and lost to the Korean player (of course), which was Grunt. That tournament, TEN YEARS AGO, was for FIFTY grand. Crazy right? I was given 8 thousand for my troubles I only played the first 4 or so months of Age of Mythology, but only lost a few times. Capoch was actually the first to beat me using the Ra rain into 3rd age cav archer thing. I still remember staying up in Age of Kings until 5am so that I could play vs the Koreans. Those guys were so nice, Koven, RD_Champ, Grunt, Kaoen (from Tiawan), etc. Loved the Devilz guys and a bunch of others. I was fairly heavily involved in Planet Age and Heaven, writting articles and things like that. After a USA vs Korea match on Korean TV new years eve 2003 I hung it up. (You can actually find the game cast on youtube, its so funny to hear myself talking about a game with korean subtitles running). Anyway, I am mid-upper masters Terran at this time. I "retired" from rts gaming in 2004 and never played age3, war3, or anything else. When SC2 was released, and I saw that trailer with the guy saying "HELL ITS ABOUT TIME", I just said "FUCK YES IT SURE IS!", and bought the game. I love it. I'll never be anything special as a player, but I will always be involved in the community and follow closely. I do hope to get GM at some point but tournament wise, my best days are behind me A big hello to anyone out there that I used to play with Heaven vs MFO was the TL vs Reddit of the early 00's | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:18 EffectS wrote: This may be a little off topic but I've always been curious about the AoE competitive scene. Can someone perhaps link me to some tournament VODs or something? There was a competitive scene from around 2000-2003, but people didnt make vods back then, only replays. Most tournaments were online affairs with only $100-£500 prizes. There was the occasioanly big offline tournament, like the wcg and also Arbalet (of the legion clan) was a very wealthy man who put a lot of his own money into tournament prizepools. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:22 oli470 wrote: I remember you, you were untouchable at the start of aom! those were the days.. No he wasn't ^^ Great to see you posting though, Jerry. | ||
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Buubble
United States191 Posts
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
My last hurrah I guess.Anyway, if you are looking for Age players to make it in SC2 it will be hard. Remember that even Boxer, the SC1 legend says that its hard to do the things he used to, and he was a SC player. Its not just the keyboard mechanics, its life. I run a construction company and just play when I can. Many of us have kids. Others have wives that dont let us game seriously (fortunately my wife supports my gaming). You know what they say... life happens. Its funny when I saw Capoch, I was wondering if that was they same guy I played in AOM. Good to know that it was. One of you guys needs to get up there in skill so I can cheer for you | ||
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RaiderRob
Netherlands377 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:38 Beerdrinker wrote: Any other MFO forum users on here? Me. The forums are still up but it's not like anybody still goes there. I've seen some other names here as well every now and than. The biggest site nowadays is AoCzone.net. For me as player, I started playing on the zone as newbie in BF explored 3vs3 and than moved on to rated. Eventually ended as 1850ish random map player but above that level everything was 1vs1 Arabia so I kinda quit rated as noone would play me.. Than focused on playing in teamgames and got some pretty decent results with Snow clan in RTS-league. I noticed nowadays that AoK:TC would be much better suited for my style as there is much more map variation in tournaments. I've tried to get Voobly to work but it seems so far I had no luck Edit: If someone ever thinks about hosting IP games you can PM me for a 3vs3 Continental or Baltic | ||
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reminissions
Canada2 Posts
Edit: This was a Death Match clan (DM) ... I forgot that there were different types of gameplay :/ | ||
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panzzzzz
United States109 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
Cho Wars were fun as well Experts could hit pop cap (200/200) in around 4.5-5 mins if I recall correctly | ||
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
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Juanmalote
Spain5 Posts
Im glad to see a lot of ex-AOC players ^^ | ||
MLG-Kyle
United States123 Posts
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
was so much fun.. I love that the map is always random created within certain boundaries, so you have to a) Scout properly b) adjust strategy to the given map Imho it's adds diversity and skill | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:08 Wrath 2.1 wrote: was also 1780 in zone/igz, I played many games with the top German player Jordan_23 and pg_Lance (2,5k+ dm player) he also had a L_Clan name, but I can't recall... was so much fun.. I love that the map is always random created within certain boundaries, so you have to a) Scout properly b) adjust strategy to the given map Imho it's adds diversity and skill Unless you spawned with trees everywhere or where your enemy has 70% of the maps gold | ||
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:17 Surili wrote: This is true, he said so on his stream a couple of times Bling was british as far as I recall,... I ve a very cool banner with bling winning a tournament, I ll upload it in a sec. To the guy above^ just forward and tower rush... for almost every of those maps exists a certain strategy Beside he can never have "all" the gold, learn to scout you have 100% a 8 field and a 6 field i think gold spot within close range. If you have really bad luck and it's completly in wood ask for save and exit, but happens soo rarly Best Player Ever: L_Clan_Bender ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uxVwq.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JLKoH.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2aoNl.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wognC.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jty7A.jpg) | ||
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ckei
Finland37 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:05 MLG-Kyle wrote: Are there any pro-level match videos from AOE2 or 3? WCG 2007 This is from wcg 2007 -Parfait vs Iamgrunt. Im pretty sure rts-sanctuary also has some hidden gems somewhere.. | ||
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
I loved playing DM, especially Huns Wars on Arabia. Zone.com was a really cozy place and having a 2k rating really gave you the prestige I miss nowadays with SC2.. oh and you could drop trick by just pressing ctrl + alt + dell and using windows 98, hehe | ||
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RaiderRob
Netherlands377 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:05 MLG-Kyle wrote: Are there any pro-level match videos from AOE2 or 3? AoC Zone has a download section where you can view MANY games | ||
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Vladix
Netherlands227 Posts
Zwartuh_Piet :-) Dutch clan and AoE 1 was the first game i played online and layer AoE 2. Black Forest, best map ever ! :-) | ||
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piknic
Canada59 Posts
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1051613/1/RAGEDaut/ | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
Edit: Daut has been in a polish team with cyclone, Kallin, Actionjesus and Welmu: http://www.team-aaa.com/news-17779-0-1-rage_de_retour_sur_sc2.html It's in french, he plays terran. | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
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Dante_A_
United States161 Posts
On November 23 2011 13:38 Beerdrinker wrote: Any other MFO forum users on here? I remember you! I was Dante, I won the first two WCG's for the USA, went to Korea both times with Randy/Stalin who went on to work at Microsoft. Chris, I and DjaDja were the three best NA 1v1 players for just about all of AoC, the x-pack for AoE2. When AoM came out and was such crap, it decimated the AoE2 community. It halted all the tournaments but didn't provide a good game to move on to, so a lot of guys either idled in AoE2 or just dissapeared. I ended up playing poker, and I still follow SC2 like crazy but mostly just watching on my phone from the poker table .I miss so many of the guys from AoE2... The Legion clan tournament in Almaty, Kazahkstan, hosted by a suspicious character who loved the game, going out to Korean bars when we were only 16 at the WCG, a lot of great memories. Koven/Grunt were by far the best AoE players, and would do well in SC2. I think guys like GeeK, Chris, Elfanor, (myself?) would all do well in SC2 if we committed to it. Edit: I remember you too GX_Iron; I remember hating that you got to go to that big Microsoft tournament because it was 18+ and I was still 17. Missing me/chris because we were too young was such a bummer. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:34 Dante_A_ wrote: I remember you! I was Dante, I won the first two WCG's for the USA, went to Korea both times with Randy/Stalin who went on to work at Microsoft. Chris, I and DjaDja were the three best NA 1v1 players for just about all of AoC, the x-pack for AoE2. When AoM came out and was such crap, it decimated the AoE2 community. It halted all the tournaments but didn't provide a good game to move on to, so a lot of guys either idled in AoE2 or just dissapeared. I ended up playing poker, and I still follow SC2 like crazy but mostly just watching on my phone from the poker table .I miss so many of the guys from AoE2... The invite-only Legion clan tournament in Almaty, Kazahkstan, hosted by a suspicious mom-boss seeming guy, going out to Korean bars when we were only 16 at the WCG, a lot of great memories. Koven/Grunt were by far the best AoE players, and would do well in SC2. I think guys like GeeK, Chris, Elfanor, (myself?) would all do well in SC2 if we committed to it. I remember i saw you on a replay i downloaded xD, i wanted to learn a propoer build order so i dled lot of stuff but never knew how to begin properly. This is like 100 times more difficult than in sc2 to apply the build order. | ||
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Dante_A_
United States161 Posts
[B]On November 24 2011 04:39 AIOL! wrote: I remember i saw you on a replay i downloaded xD, i wanted to learn a propoer build order so i dled lot of stuff but never knew how to begin properly. This is like 100 times more difficult than in sc2 to apply the build order. I think I still remember the build order for Huns (the only 1v1 civ to play in AoC really), it was something like first 7 food, using sheep/getting the boar, then chop the local trees, then make a lumber mill and chop at the forest, then go for a few farms before 24 supply and going to feudal... something like that . | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:09 SafeAsCheese wrote: Unless you spawned with trees everywhere or where your enemy has 70% of the maps gold Spawning with trees everywhere is what people wanted.... worst thing that could happen is you having no forest near or base (at least in arabia). But it added a lot of diversity to games compared to SC2, where maps are all organized and mostly the same. Arch_Koven_ vs L_Clan_Chris Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:44 Iron_ wrote: Dont forget the 2nd lumbermill after 4 guys on forest. Thats when Huns became untouchable on Arabia. Kaoen (sp?) from Tiawan I believe was the first guy doing that. Huns were touchable by Aztecs At least daut made them so. A little drush followed by mass expanding on castle age proceding to get mass pike eagle with +8 and archer. And that was mostly on arabia and some land maps. Huns were not that good in water maps or for instance blackforest. | ||
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Knuppe
90 Posts
I was in SWE_ back then.. Zhaz was really good.. also I think Hunter was good but he quit early due to military service I think.. I still get nerdchills when I think of some epic games, SCBW or SC2 doesnt even come close lol Best games was actually on LN 4v4 even tough I think LN destroyed AOC in a way.. it was a fun map but kinda lame at the same time.. BF and Arabia 4ever :D I guess its the random maps and resource management that really got me into AOC, I always thought SCBW was so "easy" because of fixed maps and only 2 resources and just a "few" workers. I am a big macro player.. never had any micro to speak of :D I played SC2 beta.. highest league ofc I think it was diamond? Got back a few months ago with an old friend for 2v2.. did pretty well despite not even playing the game and not reading up on any strats.. | ||
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Dante_A_
United States161 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:44 Iron_ wrote: Dont forget the 2nd lumbermill after 4 guys on forest. Thats when Huns became untouchable on Arabia. Kaoen (sp?) from Tiawan I believe was the first guy doing that. Kaohen I think it was, he was good and knocked me out of one of my WCG finals runs. Him, Aluba, IamCat, IamKMKM were all good TW players. 2nd lumber mill was so greedy . | ||
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Knuppe
90 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:43 Apolo wrote: Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz F YEAH MAN sheepscouting !!"! The early game actually had a huge skillcap in my opinion, sheepscouting+regular scouting+luring+making vills/orders etc.. and you could also lure your enemies boar. I think its on youtube when Koven steals a boar.. its fkn amazin! | ||
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RaiderRob
Netherlands377 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:50 Knuppe wrote: F YEAH MAN sheepscouting !!"! The early game actually had a huge skillcap in my opinion, sheepscouting+regular scouting+luring+making vills/orders etc.. and you could also lure your enemies boar. I think its on youtube when Koven steals a boar.. its fkn amazin! Don't forget micromanaging your woodchoppers, all the times those bastards went to the other side of the forest. | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
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Dante_A_
United States161 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:50 Knuppe wrote: F YEAH MAN sheepscouting !!"! The early game actually had a huge skillcap in my opinion, sheepscouting+regular scouting+luring+making vills/orders etc.. and you could also lure your enemies boar. I think its on youtube when Koven steals a boar.. its fkn amazin! While identical maps in SC2 is so much better for balance, you really lose something not having to scout just to see the basic terrain. There was so much uncertainty while you sent your scout around! Plus you would be freaking out when you couldn't find your 2nd boar, or were worried your opponent stole your sheep. | ||
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
Anyone else here remembers scouting with 4 sheep + scout all in different directions and bringing the sheep so you constantly have one alive in your base ready to kill? That actually needed some scouting skillz Ha ha, that was a lot of fun. AOE 2 had some really subtle you-just-had-to-know-it skils. Scouting in AOE was was better in general in my opinion. It was just as important, if not more, but it was waaay more rewarding. Just out of curiosity if any SC2 players have played AOE online competitively? I know it's not the great game that AoE 2 was, but the game engine is roughly the same even if the rest of the game is pretty wonky. I know someone from one of the SC2 teams left to play AOE online, but I can't remember who (they obviously weren't very successful at SC2). | ||
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sc2pal
Poland624 Posts
yes playing rts helps you at other rts | ||
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TomatoShark
United States288 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:41 Emperor_Earth wrote: The Sheriff was probably AoK/C's BoxeR. long live the sheriff and the goths <3 | ||
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stiLL.SERuM
Argentina9 Posts
So many good memories... God i miss MFO and the ladder room. I knew i would see some familiar nicknames in here edit: No quotes on how KmKm took a whole WCG by surprise with his aggresive huns flush aimed at the enemy's stone piles? | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
Last game i played was war 3 tho and i am not even good at sc2 being only hm But i never really knew there even was a aoe pro community, was it aoe1/2 or aoe 3 ? cuz 3 seem a lot different. Also artosis or incontrol said something...sometime about playing aoe but i don't remember which of them. | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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FaiL_SaFe
United States104 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:35 ondik wrote: Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2? Not that I recall for AoE3. I seem to remember the game basically being balanced around the end of vanilla and then the war chiefs expansion came out and screwed it all up again. I don't think it was ever really balanced after that. There were always a couple civs that were just flat out better than everybody else. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:33 Iron_ wrote: Daut must have been after my time. But as far as I am concerned Grunt was the best player. Koven had the largest legend, but Grunt won the big games. I think RD_Champ probably could have been the best also, but he never seemed to play nearly as much. I played all of these guys a bunch, it is really what made me as an RTS player. At first it was like stepping into another world they were so much better than my normal competition. Daut started to rise in the 6 months before AoM launched. He appeared on the aokh ladder. He must of beat me like 20 times and I never beat him. I remember being pretty pissed off because I had a bit of an ego and this unknown guy came along and just kept beating me I was not good enough in AoC to really say who the best player was. But on the rare occasions that I got to play with these guys Grunt seemed to be a lot better than RD. | ||
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:35 ondik wrote: Did the balance ever came close to SC1/2? AoC was perfectly balanced in both 1v1 and 3v3 , in almost every map you didnt have matchups there,most games where mirrors,both players had the same civilization (huns war,aztek wars,etc..) | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:40 FaiL_SaFe wrote: Not that I recall for AoE3. I seem to remember the game basically being balanced around the end of vanilla and then the war chiefs expansion came out and screwed it all up again. I don't think it was ever really balanced after that. There were always a couple civs that were just flat out better than everybody else. In AoC the game was balanced by all the races being so similar. If you could play one race then you could play them all, so everyone just played Huns :p (or vikings on islands). AoM was never well balanced. One way or another the egyptians were always too strong. First it was Ra, then Set, and finally Isis. Isis was never nerfed enough. You could win with other races, but you had to really scout and play the map. | ||
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altfornorge
40 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:40 FaiL_SaFe wrote: Not that I recall for AoE3. I seem to remember the game basically being balanced around the end of vanilla and then the war chiefs expansion came out and screwed it all up again. I don't think it was ever really balanced after that. There were always a couple civs that were just flat out better than everybody else. I only played AoE3;TAD (The asian dynasty (expansion)) but the game was never balanced, but thats mostly because there are 13 civs. There was a fan patch made that made the game pretty balanced, but its impossible because of having 13 civs. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:42 Garnet wrote: The AoE1 Chinese and Vietnamese pro's have quite some APM. Too bad they probably won't ever switch. I have to ask, Do any of you have any (FP)VoDs of these matches? always wanted to see/watch one. Much appreciated if someone can link me some. | ||
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Derek2010
United States30 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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Kaitokid
Germany1327 Posts
But whats funny is that I heard the names BlinG/Mista a few times in this thread and I am actually a big fan of BlinG and i've played GreatMista just like 1 week ago on ladder =D I think its very interesting to read or hear about players backgrounds. I think a thread like "which RTS game did you play before your transition to SC2" would be very interesting. I persnally am from the Battle for middle earth series (mainly Battle for Middle earth 2) and since I use the same nick in SC2 as I used in BFME I already met quite a few guys on ladder who know me. I think things like that are really nice and its good to see that there are players from a lot of RTS games in SC2 | ||
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Scereye
Austria154 Posts
It kind of simulated lan because there where no real Multiplayer. However, i didnt play competetive as i was ... 13 years old or something. I then played AoE2 (still not competetive) and started to understand the "makro" faktor and multiple Military Buildings would be more usefull then just 1 with 10 queued soldiers. Good times... <3 | ||
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Leach
United States536 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:19 Scereye wrote: I played Age of Empires I in a client called "Gamespy" dont know if this stuff still exists. It kind of simulated lan because there where no real Multiplayer. However, i didnt play competetive as i was ... 13 years old or something. I then played AoE2 (still not competetive) and started to understand the "makro" faktor and multiple Military Buildings would be more usefull then just 1 with 10 queued soldiers. Good times... <3 Oh my god Gamespy :D It was like literally after every game you installed it would ask you whether you would like to install stupid Gamespy, even if you already had it installed Those were good times And the day we figured out how to circumvent the 200 supply limitation in Age of empires remains up until today the happiest day of my life.... of course that is before we discovered that our crappy PCs couldnt handle bigger armies anyways | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
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Risk_
United Kingdom2 Posts
im a top 25 masters now on EU and NA but jobs got in the way of playing abit. After TWC came out balance went screwy again didnt play it too competitively after that. (i also played star wars galactice battle ground - which was aoe engine but with star wars units) | ||
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NeilSC
114 Posts
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Scereye
Austria154 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:22 Leach wrote: Oh my god Gamespy :D It was like literally after every game you installed it would ask you whether you would like to install stupid Gamespy, even if you already had it installed Those were good times And the day we figured out how to circumvent the 200 supply limitation in Age of empires remains up until today the happiest day of my life.... of course that is before we discovered that our crappy PCs couldnt handle bigger armies anyways Oh yeah! That was fun haha. And then the modding of AoE2 started, those where my first steps in the modding scene. I made graphics in MSPaint (!!! :D) which then got included as buildings in AoE2. Oh god, nerd chills all over the place. Someone out there: GO organize a AoE I / AoE II tournament! ;D | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:22 Leach wrote: Oh my god Gamespy :D It was like literally after every game you installed it would ask you whether you would like to install stupid Gamespy, even if you already had it installed Those were good times And the day we figured out how to circumvent the 200 supply limitation in Age of empires remains up until today the happiest day of my life.... of course that is before we discovered that our crappy PCs couldnt handle bigger armies anyways how did you get around the supply limit? mass monks? | ||
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MrArchy
United States6 Posts
On November 23 2011 12:34 Powster wrote: I have been wondering if there are any aok hero fest/world map players.. Those 2 custom scenarios took lots of skill and were very fun.. I played AoE1and then Age of kings random map years till eventually got addicted to hero fest and world map. Hero fest is played in AoC quite a bit on Voobly. World map has been mostly replaced by random europe scenario. 8 spawning locations randomized on a map of europe. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Scereye
Austria154 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:47 MCDayC wrote: A couple of people have asked for it, but no one has given one. Are there any recorded games of AoE? I literally have no idea what it would look like. The only one i found: (and related videos, but as far as i can see those are no "real" competetive games with no commentary) But the commentators are terrible (Edit: Ok, thats a bit harsh. We probably just have another standard today. Huge kudos to the casters for their effort non the less!!!!) and only explaning the VERY basics and their english is poor. Well... and of course at thos times Observermode was like talking about Hoverboards nowadays. | ||
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FluXen
Canada210 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:47 MCDayC wrote: A couple of people have asked for it, but no one has given one. Are there any recorded games of AoE? I literally have no idea what it would look like. Google Skwizz, if you remember that clan, it was with the top players from AoE3, I believe they have replays of showmatches and tournaments. | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:34 Dante_A_ wrote: I remember you! I was Dante, I won the first two WCG's for the USA, went to Korea both times with Randy/Stalin who went on to work at Microsoft. Chris, I and DjaDja were the three best NA 1v1 players for just about all of AoC, the x-pack for AoE2. When AoM came out and was such crap, it decimated the AoE2 community. It halted all the tournaments but didn't provide a good game to move on to, so a lot of guys either idled in AoE2 or just dissapeared. I ended up playing poker, and I still follow SC2 like crazy but mostly just watching on my phone from the poker table .I miss so many of the guys from AoE2... The Legion clan tournament in Almaty, Kazahkstan, hosted by a suspicious character who loved the game, going out to Korean bars when we were only 16 at the WCG, a lot of great memories. Koven/Grunt were by far the best AoE players, and would do well in SC2. I think guys like GeeK, Chris, Elfanor, (myself?) would all do well in SC2 if we committed to it. Edit: I remember you too GX_Iron; I remember hating that you got to go to that big Microsoft tournament because it was 18+ and I was still 17. Missing me/chris because we were too young was such a bummer. Hello as well. Good times back in the day, wish we had YouTube around back then to document it! Its a shame that MFO's recorded game collection got wiped. Also wish we could download AOC on steam, I suppose I could buy a physical copy online, but using CD check to launch a game is so archaic. I remember the WCG qualifier that you won, it was a shame being 17 and not being able to go places (either legally or with parents permission). Hi to Iron as well. If my memory serves, you had a head start on people in AOM because you tested it before release (were you a paid tester for Ensemble? I remember WX_Swinger was, he was a guy I used to chat with on the zone). I remember you were a different beast in AOM than AOC. Hi to everyone else from the 2001-2002 AOC scene. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:47 MCDayC wrote: A couple of people have asked for it, but no one has given one. Are there any recorded games of AoE? I literally have no idea what it would look like. RoR: AoK: AoC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V9H_XQkO4w&feature=related AoM: AoE3: | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 06:49 Beerdrinker wrote: Hello as well. Good times back in the day, wish we had YouTube around back then to document it! Its a shame that MFO's recorded game collection got wiped. Also wish we could download AOC on steam, I suppose I could buy a physical copy online, but using CD check to launch a game is so archaic. I remember the WCG qualifier that you won, it was a shame being 17 and not being able to go places (either legally or with parents permission). Hi to Iron as well. If my memory serves, you had a head start on people in AOM because you tested it before release (were you a paid tester for Ensemble? I remember WX_Swinger was, he was a guy I used to chat with on the zone). I remember you were a different beast in AOM than AOC. Hi to everyone else from the 2001-2002 AOC scene. Iron was very good at AoC. The game I guess we all remember is the semi-finals of the MS International. Grunt vs Iron on mediterranean. Iron goes huns and wins the water, grunt goes vikings and ultimately wins on land. It was a close game though and I dont think many of us could of come so close against Grunt. I think Iron may have also beaten GP in that tournament, which was no small feat. | ||
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Pezeteros
Greece7 Posts
The game wasn't pristinely balanced, and that was kidna ok too since it derived by the civilizations being too close together and the map diversity being quite large making certain traits more suited for different maps. Huns became dominant in the definate 1v1 competitive map, arabia, but huns vs huns still produced a lot of absolutely fabulous games. Also keep in mind by all the civs being branches of a core civilization, players were able to play all civs adeptly, so it is nowhere like race switching in starcraft. But what I really loved the most in that game was the teamgames. Team games not only were much more fun and fluid than any other RTS I've played, but they could also get really competitice and balanced at the highest level of play. Playing 3v3/4v4 at Full Random/Arabia with good players was an absolute delight, and a great lot of the tournaments were team tournaments. I can still remember games like the USA vs Italy on islands for some tournament like 10 years played actually by players like Haws and Dante that posted here if I recall correctly. was going under Pezeteros/StorM_Sarissa/redhair_LOLITA back then | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:09 Pezeteros wrote: I've played AoC a great lot during 2001-2004 and had the most fun in gaming I've ever had during those years. I've played all of the Age games, AoE1/RoR not so much cause of school at that time, and AoK/AoC was by far the best and most fun among them. For comparison sake I didnt play AoM/AoE3 for more than a couple months before i got bored and quit. Was also a frequent MFO user, and that was the place to be a better gamer at that time. The game wasn't pristinely balanced, and that was kidna ok too since it derived by the civilizations being too close together and the map diversity being quite large making certain traits more suited for different maps. Huns became dominant in the definate 1v1 competitive map, arabia, but huns vs huns still produced a lot of absolutely fabulous games. Also keep in mind by all the civs being branches of a core civilization, players were able to play all civs adeptly, so it is nowhere like race switching in starcraft. But what I really loved the most in that game was the teamgames. Team games not only were much more fun and fluid than any other RTS I've played, but they could also get really competitice and balanced at the highest level of play. Playing 3v3/4v4 at Full Random/Arabia with good players was an absolute delight, and a great lot of the tournaments were team tournaments. I can still remember games like the USA vs Italy on islands for some tournament like 10 years played actually by players like Haws and Dante that posted here if I recall correctly. was going under Pezeteros/StorM_Sarissa/redhair_LOLITA back then That is my biggest dislike with SC2. The great 1v1 gameplay does not also make for great team games. I dont think any of us would say that SC2 1v1 is not great, because it is. But SC2 team games are another story. I actually remember the names of all of the old players who have posted here I am not sure how many will know mine as I was only a run of the mill 2k player in AoC. I got closer to the top later in AoM. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:05 hzflank wrote: RoR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwfhMiZxF_U&feature=fvsr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYq0A7WtvL8&feature=related AoK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RbRwg2s0q4 AoC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V9H_XQkO4w&feature=related AoM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBVSVAoI2Fg AoE3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD4pcR7Vxyk&feature=related Creepy. So much score screen cehcking in the first video game me a headache. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:11 blade55555 wrote: No, no aoe3 players have had any good results in sc2. H20 did in the first beta tournament but quit due to falling behind and the game being to hard for him, TLS had decent results not sure how he is now. The only aoe3 players who used to play it that went to sc2 are me/tsl (aka ourk in sc2) and naugim but don't think he's had any results either. The rest that tried quit (I believe grunt tried but went into military service). Capoch was "good" in the beta when 4 gate was strong, ever since 4 gate is a free win he hasn't done anything in tournaments. And idk the other 2 guys. No one said aoe3. They said aoe. And its not like aoe players we bad by any means, they would do fine if they played. I only play casually, and i am masters, i didnt play any sc. ever. only aoe1/2/3. Grunt would have been amazing. I think starsky and np would have been too. But most aoe3 players, like u mentioned, had been playing aoe since aoe came out, and were already in their mid twenties, i believe. | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
I did end up winning that game, by walling off arabia and building horse archers. It was vs the French guy DK_Deathnight, who went ahead and guaranteed a victory to the press since he knew I was a random map player. He threw his shit and stormed off after I won the game. One of my more proud rts moments. Yes I did have a head start on AOM, I worked for Ensemble as they hired me after that microsoft tourney. I only played the first few months before I moved on to my construction company. Edit: Crexis won the Canadian title, so Canada was still well represented. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
but i must admit i love aoe3 for it's team games (even though i still did prefer 1v1), sc2 is just not a teamgame alltogether .... and i've been playing aoe series since it first came out on pc ... i was what, 6 ? Just love them all | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:36 Malpractice.248 wrote: No one said aoe3. They said aoe. And its not like aoe players we bad by any means, they would do fine if they played. I only play casually, and i am masters, i didnt play any sc. ever. only aoe1/2/3. Grunt would have been amazing. I think starsky and np would have been too. But most aoe3 players, like u mentioned, had been playing aoe since aoe came out, and were already in their mid twenties, i believe. Well masters, but when I say results I am talking tournaments not ladder ranking of getting grandmaster or high masters I am talking legitimate tournament results. | ||
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stiLL.SERuM
Argentina9 Posts
To whoever likes to nostalgia : Darq_DarkJihad : On the Road to Expert Gutter_Rat : Flush Guide Out4Blood : Evil Tips,Tricks, Tactics and Techniques Captn Kidd's Newbie Guide FOPT Interview w/ Arch_Koven History of AoC Tournaments BsK_PoisN History of Development of Age Lightning_CN : Booming Im looking for an interview that kkab did where he mentions pak_se_ri and a group of AoE players who were better than Koven, Mozory and RD_Champion and preferred to remain underground. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Roe wrote: Actually I just found Artosis on AoE3. It's an interview from about 6 years ago. http://www.ageofempires3-alliance.com/Artosis.3336.0.html I love that pic hehe Nice find, anime? Haha I can see the Artosis in that interview | ||
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sheaRZerg
United States613 Posts
Was AOE3 played competitively? From my brief experience with it, it sure didnt strike me as a good game for that (or anything for that matter). | ||
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gnuell
Sweden16 Posts
Now that Ensemble Studios is dead someone should develop an RTS game as balanced as Sc2 but with a medival theme, I prefer that as Im not really into sci fi. Also arrange a SC2 invitational tournament for former Age of Empires players! I started playing Age of Empires online on MSN Gaming Zones RoR Trial room. They released the trial version of Rise of Rome with a single multiplayer map and it was actually quite a large community of people only playing the trial. I even remember pro players from the full RoR coming in like RFR_Gold who was shown in one of the vidoes embeded above getting beat. Once AoK came out I started playing that and later AoC. I remember when Microsoft were testing Age of Mythology I got the Alpha and Beta test CDs sent to my home, I think I still have those lying around somewhere. Like many other Age players I didnt like Age of Mythology at all and started playing Empire Earth when that was released. I think most of the better players at that game all came from Age of Empires. Since those days up until last year I didnt really game, I had been searching for years for a new game but never found one until SC2 was released. | ||
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Knuppe
90 Posts
This thread makes me want to play!! edit: As someone else said, it was the teamgames that made the game so damn epic.. 3v3 was insane!! Oh my god someone should take AOC and up the graphics a tiny bit, few more maps and its game of the year | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:43 Iron_ wrote: Yes Dante and Chris could not play for the 50K microsoft tournament, although Chris was Canadian so I didnt have to worry about him to qualify. The qualification rounds were on continental though, and I was always a random map player. Iketh was my main competition for the qualifier. Only one round of the finals was on Arabia, so it was a bit different of a tournament. Most 1v1 arabia players were not really interested in playing anything other than 1v1 arabia. The reason I stayed up everynight playing the koreans was to get past that 2nd 1v1 arabia round in the finals. I did end up winning that game, by walling off arabia and building horse archers. It was vs the French guy DK_Deathnight, who went ahead and guaranteed a victory to the press since he knew I was a random map player. He threw his shit and stormed off after I won the game. One of my more proud rts moments. Yes I did have a head start on AOM, I worked for Ensemble as they hired me after that microsoft tourney. I only played the first few months before I moved on to my construction company. Edit: Crexis won the Canadian title, so Canada was still well represented. Random map was my preference as well. I was never a good Huns player. My heyday on arabia was pre-1.0c when chinese were viable(or OP depending on who you ask). I used to sit on the zone for lengthy periods of time waiting for anyone to play random map random civ. Another good player who is worth mentioning from the NA scene is ME_Count_Rahl. I still have bookmarked a short history of the KS clan throughout the aoe series. Its not particularly impactful or important, but it brings up old memories. There are still a group of KS players of various skill levels who play SC2 together a couple times a week. The team games have been fun when I have been invited. http://www.geocities.ws/ksjoseywales/history/index.html | ||
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_apathy
2 Posts
On November 24 2011 04:34 Dante_A_ wrote: I remember you! I was Dante, I won the first two WCG's for the USA, went to Korea both times with Randy/Stalin who went on to work at Microsoft. Chris, I and DjaDja were the three best NA 1v1 players for just about all of AoC, the x-pack for AoE2. When AoM came out and was such crap, it decimated the AoE2 community. It halted all the tournaments but didn't provide a good game to move on to, so a lot of guys either idled in AoE2 or just dissapeared. I ended up playing poker, and I still follow SC2 like crazy but mostly just watching on my phone from the poker table .I miss so many of the guys from AoE2... The Legion clan tournament in Almaty, Kazahkstan, hosted by a suspicious character who loved the game, going out to Korean bars when we were only 16 at the WCG, a lot of great memories. Koven/Grunt were by far the best AoE players, and would do well in SC2. I think guys like GeeK, Chris, Elfanor, (myself?) would all do well in SC2 if we committed to it. Edit: I remember you too GX_Iron; I remember hating that you got to go to that big Microsoft tournament because it was 18+ and I was still 17. Missing me/chris because we were too young was such a bummer. Alright guys. I was _RCF_blur/I3lur or whatever Great to see names like Dante and Haws still hanging around... online gaming's such a small world!Fantastic memories of AOK/AOC particularly. I went into poker too, played more or less full time for a year. Then managed to concentrate on university and work. Have been playing a bit of SC2 and enjoying it, although not sure the old magic is quite there :D Would love to see how koven/grunt/kimchi etc would have done in SC2 in their prime. Probably never know as they're all ridiculously past it in starcraft terms, like most aoe players. | ||
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TalonBot
Greece28 Posts
i cant remember a lot of names besides the sheriff,maiming matty,ECTORAS, Frazier, ugonnadie probably some TD guys and Brut/Brute clan...proud to beat few of those back then.tons of smurfing as well i also saw someone mention Heaven. Is it reffering to the KR clan? Finally aoc days, cant even remember how many handles i had ..maya rush and then hun was so op ( ). Used to play under HeLLaS clan.Cheers to old guys still gaming | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
I was actually in ME for a while, and so I had the pleasure of playing with Rahl/Josey quite a bit in AoC, and later against him a lot in AoM. He always seemed to be a very creative player, but was not at all on par with the koreans on arabia. Josey actually had his own website in AoM where he would put some of his recorded games: http://joseywales.nodecam.com/ | ||
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Beerdrinker
44 Posts
On November 24 2011 08:28 _apathy wrote: Alright guys. I was _RCF_blur/I3lur or whatever Great to see names like Dante and Haws still hanging around... online gaming's such a small world!Fantastic memories of AOK/AOC particularly. I went into poker too, played more or less full time for a year. Then managed to concentrate on university and work. Have been playing a bit of SC2 and enjoying it, although not sure the old magic is quite there :D Would love to see how koven/grunt/kimchi etc would have done in SC2 in their prime. Probably never know as they're all ridiculously past it in starcraft terms, like most aoe players. Hey there! I am painfully ignorant here, but when I was looking to get back into online gaming in towards the end of college in 2006, I had no idea that starcraft had persisted to become what it was. It was an AOC contemporary, and AOC was long dead, it never occurred to me to look into it. I wish I had given it a shot back then, when I had time and energy to get good at it. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
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_RCF_DreaMz
United States2 Posts
and some of the old school, age players still kicking. | ||
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Dante_A_
United States161 Posts
On November 24 2011 08:28 _apathy wrote: Alright guys. I was _RCF_blur/I3lur or whatever Great to see names like Dante and Haws still hanging around... online gaming's such a small world!Fantastic memories of AOK/AOC particularly. I went into poker too, played more or less full time for a year. Then managed to concentrate on university and work. Have been playing a bit of SC2 and enjoying it, although not sure the old magic is quite there :D Would love to see how koven/grunt/kimchi etc would have done in SC2 in their prime. Probably never know as they're all ridiculously past it in starcraft terms, like most aoe players. Wow! I definitely remember you. I can't remember the name of that room on the MSN Gaming Zone or whatever where everyone used to hang out and play non-rated games. What fun. Seeing you, Haws, and Iron on here gives me a big smile. | ||
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_apathy
2 Posts
On November 24 2011 08:56 Dante_A_ wrote: Wow! I definitely remember you. I can't remember the name of that room on the MSN Gaming Zone or whatever where everyone used to hang out and play non-rated games. What fun. Seeing you, Haws, and Iron on here gives me a big smile. The Ladder room? It was that for a while anyway, think it was something else at some point. Hey DreamZ btw. I'll have to start using my clan tag again in SC2, at least when I actually have time to play :D I know what you mean Haws, was never aware that starcraft was quite this big, think we were quite isolated in our little community | ||
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DAofCanada
Canada55 Posts
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Never played it competitively though. | ||
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kemsley
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
I remember all you guys and have watched many of your rec games. Wish someone would just take AoC and redo it! Sheep Scouting and Boar-luring ftw! Captain Kidds guide on MFO :-) Monk Rushhhinnn I played the AOE series for 8 years, Gave up playing SC2 after 7/8 months... @Daut - I remember you and Randy from that WCG - amazing KmKm won and Randy was the only player to play non-huns, going Mayans and he beat KmKm in the group stage by stealing his boar with his Mayan scout all the way across the map! So fucking funny to see kmkm "like whoa - where the fuck is my boar!!!" at wcg. I remember a warm up game where Randy stole both his opps boars! Anyone remember Fox_EliteX from AoM, he was the most stylish player from AoM - some of his comebacks were amazing. I played AoE3 but it was complete homo from the start. Great thread! | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:13 hzflank wrote: That is my biggest dislike with SC2. The great 1v1 gameplay does not also make for great team games. I dont think any of us would say that SC2 1v1 is not great, because it is. But SC2 team games are another story. I actually remember the names of all of the old players who have posted here I am not sure how many will know mine as I was only a run of the mill 2k player in AoC. I got closer to the top later in AoM.I remember you Flank, I tried joining hZ one time but I was super young so unsurprisingly got turned away =p, I used to post under "wizardra" on paoe, I miss those days, the entire scene would go crazy whenever a pro replay got released, damn good times. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
Team games was where AoC really shined though imo. Team/ffa games were always so epic, much more so than SC2 imo. The game had so much depth with the widely varying maps, cool units and civilizations, etc. I also enjoyed the extra strategy that maps with water on them brought about. DM mode was also pretty fun and I always wish SC2 had it, there was even a ladder for DM making it a legitimate alternative way to enjoy the game. Nexus Wars and so on aren't half as good as DM was. I would kill for just an updated AoC with modern graphics, online support, maybe a few more units, balancing etc. Honestly think it would be amazing and sell pretty well and actually offer a least a tiny bit of SC2 competition in the RTS field. Too bad Ensemble is dead I really wish smaller companies like Ensemble would stop letting themselves get brought out by the bigger corporations like microsoft, ea, activision etc. Microsoft killed Ensemble imo, especially having them do Halo Wars.. AoM and AoE3 were just not the same either. Such a shame, amazing company and amazing game in AoK/AoC.http://www.mrfixitonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=3786 <3 nostalgia | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
124 Posts
English longbowman were a lot of fun on maps that permitted you getting that far, I really loved the huns special unit (forgot name) but they were basically the reapers of that game, mounted and had sapper like damage killing builds super fast, i absolutely loved picking them and just completely killing entire bases if they moved out any large force | ||
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kemsley
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
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kemsley
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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RaiderRob
Netherlands377 Posts
On November 24 2011 21:49 kemsley wrote: Right sorry for spam but I've had enough; where can I play AoC online - I have the retail version and I'm going back to old school? Anyone? www.voobly.com has around 1000+ players on weekends, sort of your best bet. | ||
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kemsley
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9016 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:45 Grettin wrote: I have to ask, Do any of you have any (FP)VoDs of these matches? always wanted to see/watch one. Much appreciated if someone can link me some. A lot of videos to download. | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:25 Roe wrote: Actually I just found Artosis on AoE3. It's an interview from about 6 years ago. http://www.ageofempires3-alliance.com/Artosis.3336.0.html I love that pic hehe This interview is too good. Artosis has never changed from then till now :D | ||
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qapuk
United States71 Posts
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4of8
Germany256 Posts
I know a couple of Top AoE3 players around the HighMasters (near to GM) but I don't think they are taking it to serious. From my point it would be very nice to see one of the old Age "Pros" (AoE2 or AoE3/AoM) in the bigger offline events of SC2, but I don't see it happen. The greatest thing about the Age-Series was that the teamgames where a big fun and you could play 3v3s or 4v4s competively. BTW: at my peak I was around lvl 42 in AoE3 (forgot the ELO) made it to a WCG National(Germany) offline final to take the 7th-8th place and get nothing :D but never was really near the top in 1v1. AoK is sadly to long ago but there I was bloody noob :D | ||
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lizzuma
United States301 Posts
Best I did in Sc2 was finish #15 in GM season 2 and occasionally beat a korean . | ||
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YehOfCourseImOP
United Kingdom23 Posts
I got too lvl 37 Colonel on AoE 3 vanilla, after switching from AoE3 to SC2, I have tried to get other players/friends too come over also. Most of you probably stopped playing ages ago and won't know them but Grey_Foxx, Umeu, Leonard and myself have all just switched over too SC2, hopefully to be followed with SoapMacTavish and Fourby (i think) plays on SEA server. Then as far as players from the amazing game that is AoM. SpOeFt, Narcotic, Mista, Adhafang, Nigam and a whole bunch of other people I can't remember all switched and are doing pretty well. | ||
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fumikey
Canada58 Posts
Someone posted a video of Dinosaur vs RFR_Gold previously, and there are many better games than those. That was a game trying to unite two of the main communities of RoR remaining (being NA/Europe and Vietnam/China). RFR_Gold manages the website so he was able to arrange a few games with Dinosaur through some of Dino's fans. Dinosaur is considered top 3-5 in the world atm. Players like shenlong, super0dfx and Lol2d are some of the current top players around AoE/RoR. (Two of which are asian, of course) | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
AoM I played online much more and barely touched 2k but a bit later in the game's lifecycle so that really wasn't anything special. I liked the game and the setting quite a bit but from a competetive point the game sucked with things like autoqueing and the like, this drove away alot of the more skilled played from the series I think. Balance ofcourse was horrible too, and the titans version was dominated for a long time in the end by titan rushing with isis. AoE3 I played quite a bit when it just came out and was in top 10 of the rankings during that time. That ranking was not really official though and there didn't seem to be any real RTS talents playing the game. I wonder what artosis' nick was as I might have played him a couple time then. Starsky and I believe iamgrunt where on top at the time and beat me quite hard but I can't recall there being any other good players out there. The game was stupid broken in the beginning and Germany was best by far imo. I was one of the first to abuse german mercenary shipments much and basically beat most people simply doing that, I heard the game got fixed a bit more later on and then broken again by the expansion but I never played these. There was something dull about the game that simply made it too boring. Combat has always been a bit boring in the AoE series but after AoE2 they dumbed down the macro part so much that the series just became too simple compared to starcraft and others. That's also the reason I think that no AoE players have done well in starcraft. After AoE2 the games were too simple to interest good players really. Some of the top AoM players played wc3 but never seemed to be anything special either. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2514 Posts
I want to know if players like Arch_Koven, Grunt and IamChris, would be competitive at Sc2? The only Age player I have seen is Capoch who I ran into on the ladder playing GM on the NA server. Koven and Grunt both play, but they're only mid masters. Last time I talked to Chris he was still playing HoN, though I suppose he's playing Dota 2 now. Arch Vile, as far as I know, is still playing AoC - but he's fallen in rating quite a bit. Most of the newer players are mechanically better than people that do weird ass shit every game like Vile. Viper and Tim are like the only people that still play AoC at their 2007-2009 skill level. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
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ShamW0W
160 Posts
So fun to see old names like Kkab, Koven, and Grunt thrown around. I come from a long Age Of Empires background, played since aoe1, and started SC2 in April. (well, played a couple weeks in beta but nothing serious) In AoC I was 2200 or so (Pray_4YourLife, L_Clan_Socrates) and was 2400 or so in AOE3 (WaCkO). Took a large break from AoC at some point then came back to what felt like a completely different game (transitioned from Chinese dominance to Huns) Would be great to get some games in with some former AOE players. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
It feels easy, but still super fast. The AI proxies barracks and archery ranges constantly (I did FFA against 7 computers and 3 of them proxied buildings and tried to kill me). | ||
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Edko
France20 Posts
For those who might know them: Salska (also known as JohnDoe on AOEIII) tryed SC2 but that's all. Sadly he is more in WOW for some years. Tamock from AOC plays a bit of SC2 and is ranked in master league | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Flondra
Canada56 Posts
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
The first Age of Empires was good but a bit flawed. The second Age of Empires (AOK/AOC) was a masterpiece, it some ways superior to Starcraft, it other ways not. The third Age of Empires was good but nowhere near as good as AOK/AOC. Basically AOK/AOC is superior to Starcraft when it comes to economy, macro and strategic depth. Starcraft II is superior when it comes to tactics, micro and race balance. It also has a better multiplayer platform. I love Starcraft but I feel like speed matter too much; I think AOK/AOC had a better balance between rewarding strategic skill and speed. | ||
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chestnutcc
India429 Posts
On November 24 2011 09:41 kemsley wrote: Lot of memories here: I was farmer_brit in AoC and Vagabond Merv in AoM - Hey Flank! I remember all you guys and have watched many of your rec games. Wish someone would just take AoC and redo it! Sheep Scouting and Boar-luring ftw! Captain Kidds guide on MFO :-) Monk Rushhhinnn I played the AOE series for 8 years, Gave up playing SC2 after 7/8 months... @Daut - I remember you and Randy from that WCG - amazing KmKm won and Randy was the only player to play non-huns, going Mayans and he beat KmKm in the group stage by stealing his boar with his Mayan scout all the way across the map! So fucking funny to see kmkm "like whoa - where the fuck is my boar!!!" at wcg. I remember a warm up game where Randy stole both his opps boars! Anyone remember Fox_EliteX from AoM, he was the most stylish player from AoM - some of his comebacks were amazing. I played AoE3 but it was complete homo from the start. Great thread! I played and loved all the Age games, though I played online and was competitive mainly in AoM. I didn't really like the titans or AoE3. which didnt feel as smooth as the other games, and it lagged more online. Been playing SC2 since a few months, Plat toss now. Imo balance was always an issue in the age series, but it is unparalleled in macro mechanics and harassment based games. SC2 is more like poker, and has a lot of information based losses, coinflip matchups and so forth. The standard macro game in SC2 is brilliant and equals the age series except for the inability to replenish armies once a 200vs200 supply battle takes place, but the prevalence of cheese and all ins makes the game a lot more variable. PS:Fox EliteX was a genius, sort of like the mvp of aom. I remember the Ra fast heroic he invented, which, to date, I think ranks amongst the most refined and classiest timing attacks I've ever had the pleasure of executing. Shiautz was a korean player and had some of the sickest micro, I think he played in the wcg finals vs PG fire at one point of time. | ||
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CondoM
Australia13 Posts
Besides that, we still have big tournaments. As mentioned, WCL just finished (Kkab, Grunt, Halen & Daut won), and there's a $15k tourney coming up. Not to mention the Daut vs. Chris best of 21 grudge match (both guys put in $500 each to settle their rivalry). As far as I know, BlinG and Capoch are the two guys who've represented aoc the best. Daut was also doing quite well before he came back to aoc for WCL. I guess you older guys wouldn't know Daut or BlinG. Daut started off as a decent bf player, then began playing ara and FR competitively and pretty much became the best player in the world within six months. BlinG was around for years as well before he became really good. He stagnated around the 2100 range for a little while before getting a new mouse and monitor and becoming a 2400 beast. At the moment, the game is probably more alive than it's been in years. It'd be awesome if some of you guys dropped by and said hi, maybe even played a few games. http://aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=70160 There's the thread for the VOD's of Daut vs. Chris if anybody wants to see how aoc looks at its highest level nowadays. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Would love to see some of his games in sc2, he was my favorite aoc player. | ||
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Manex
Australia156 Posts
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Chainfire99
Canada474 Posts
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mamelouk
France135 Posts
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betaman
United Kingdom355 Posts
Anyway, I figured if it was so easy to cheat what is stop people doing it more subtly? So quit | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Monasou
United States218 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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