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On August 15 2011 17:24 DamageControL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:23 fineshed wrote:On August 15 2011 17:15 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:13 Defacer wrote:
EG is like the Yankees or the Miami Heat.
Some people love them for how savvy and effective they are as an organization; some people hate them because they seem like big bad company that keeps the little guy down.
That being said, EG is absolutely GREAT for E-sports. They're force the community to stay ambitious and competitive. Both the Miami Heat and the Yankees back up their "savvy and effective" organization with results. Which is why they are savvy and effective rather than incompetents with lots of money. EG must start winning to earn many people's respect. are you seriously saying that eg are incompetents with money really It depends on what you mean by incompetent. They are proficient at generating viewership. They are less successful at generating tournament results.
i know sc2 is the most important esport right now but you're only looking at their sc2 roster
eg.cs is the only na cs team able to compete with europeans
eg.ql is the best na ql team
eg.tf2 dominated the tf2 scene along with coL.tf2 for a good amount of seasons
etc
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On August 15 2011 17:30 Dox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:24 IceSlipper wrote:
People say you can move your clock forward and it opens the audio's (which are not yet uploaded anyway, thus unplayable). Since im in australia and my countdown is at 17:37 remaining, and there is still only 1 audio available, does that mean that we wont be getting another audio clip for at least 17 hours considering the 'real' countdown still has over 1day 10hours remaining and the second clip isnt until less than 17hours? I think you need to reconsider your logic. Fast forwarding the clock does not prompt an individual to upload a file to their server.
"Oh shit, some asshole fast-forwarded his computer clock to the 20th of August, better upload all the sound clips."
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On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote:
Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...
IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.
Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money. Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends. What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie.
Yup in your job no matter what your job is, if a head hunter came through and offered you double what you were making you wouldn't leave despite friendships at the company. Fucking idealistic bullshit.
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On August 15 2011 17:24 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:18 Oreo7 wrote:On August 15 2011 17:14 NoobSkills wrote:On August 15 2011 17:09 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:03 Irave wrote:On August 15 2011 17:02 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Sigh... at this point all evidence seems to indicate huk... i'm so sad Or is it planted evidence for some peoples entertainment? Is there a reason huk had so many fans in the first place? It really confuses me. 1. Probably the second best foreigner. 2. He is outspoken about what he thinks no bullshit. What? I think you've confused huk and idra, huk's results lately show him to be the best foreigner, and while he's honest, I certainly wouldn't say that first about his personality, more that he's nice, happy, joking. I was actually talking about Naniwa being in first, but perhaps with his recent 1st's all over he is the best foreigner. His personality is what I said it is, that is why people like him. He says what he wants and does like to joke around with it, but he means it regardless. The guy I originally quoted wanted to know why he was popular. Naniwa who was probably the best about 2 months ago still was not the most popular, but not because he was lacking skill or chessed for all his wins, but he is a rather boring individual. I was just simply claiming that personality has a much greater affect on popularity than tournament results. Take Incontrol as an example. No 1sts in anything that matters, but most including me like to watch him because he expresses his feelings, and is pretty funny.
HuK beat Nani in his win at HSC, and placed higher at the latest MLG. HuK is right now better than Nani, no question.
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"I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest."
Wikipedia - some citing from the bible
white horse = white ra. MAN! FORGET HUK!
although i like him too much to join that anti-team
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On August 15 2011 17:29 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:27 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 15 2011 17:22 Irave wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 Zaros wrote:
What is the real timer at, at the moment? The one I have is 1 day 10 hours 38 minutes. 12:00PM on Tuesday on the West Coast. What? I'm on the west coast and its 1:30 A.M And guys, if Huk goes to EG, it doesn't mean he has to leave Korea. They supported Idra when he was there and are supporting Puma right now. EG has always had their eye Korea. That would be when the clock would hit 0. I'm well aware of what time it is here.
That explains it, completely misread haha. I was so confused.
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the puma situation actually makes more sense too.. they were slow to respond, maybe they wanted to announce everything at once with puma + huk + others. coach lee's unexpected rant may have foiled those plans.
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HuK -> EG
SaSe -> TeamLiquid
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EG is the master of creating unknown hype.
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On August 15 2011 17:33 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:30 Dox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 IceSlipper wrote:
People say you can move your clock forward and it opens the audio's (which are not yet uploaded anyway, thus unplayable). Since im in australia and my countdown is at 17:37 remaining, and there is still only 1 audio available, does that mean that we wont be getting another audio clip for at least 17 hours considering the 'real' countdown still has over 1day 10hours remaining and the second clip isnt until less than 17hours? I think you need to reconsider your logic. Fast forwarding the clock does not prompt an individual to upload a file to their server. "Oh shit, some asshole fast-forwarded his computer clock to the 20th of August, better upload all the sound clips."
Thats not what i meant at all.. Already posted on the previous page the misunderstanding he got from my post....
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On August 15 2011 17:29 ribboo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 16:51 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
If HuK does indeed join EG, I will be thoroughly entertained for days reading the senseless, baseless, and uncalled for rabble from this forum. If you want Esports to succeed, things like this must happen. Competition between teams in this manner forces everyone to strive to improve their situation. If you indeed do think you know HuK like he is your best friend and believe there is no way he would give up his situation in Korea or in the TL-OGS practice house, then I feel sorry for you and your wishful thinking. Maybe those things are true, but they would have little bearing in the face of an actual contractual offer from a team like EG.
There are a multitude of reasons I love EG and the main one is that this team above all the others is actually trying to make Esports succesful outside of Korea. Most of the posters on this forum (in my humble opinion) do not want Esports to suceed like some say, but instead want SC2 to be like BW and for their precious TL to remain the center of the international SC2 universe forever. For Esports to suceed, it MUST slowly evolve into the way other professional sports are handled and the current model certainly is nothing close.
I know it must be terible to think that your favorite player might be leaving his team (something of which we are not yet certain) but honestly, are you approaching this from a selfish perspective that only allows for a SC2 world that you envision? Based on what I've read in this thread, I think some of you have to answer yes.
Lastly, I love to watch good Starcraft 2, I love the game. It's highly entertaining and I believe it has the potential to become something great, players like HuK, Idra, etc do a lot torwards making that goal a reality, and I would hate to see the out of game aspects construe what has become a blossoming Esport. Think of it has Real Madrid signing a player from Barcelona or vice-versa. Of course there is going to be hate. Happens in every sport, its not a bad sign it happens here either. people care, thats good.
Using your Football Analogy, This could also end up like the EPL where two or three teams with all the cash buying the best players from the lesser teams who cannot compete with the money offered.
Which then leads to a lack of competition as in the EPL where it is the same two/three teams winning everytime. Shits boring.
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Seriously, where the fuck did people get all the rumours that Huk will join EG?
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On August 15 2011 17:33 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote:
Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...
IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.
Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money. Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends. What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie. Yup in your job no matter what your job is, if a head hunter came through and offered you double what you were making you wouldn't leave despite friendships at the company. Fucking idealistic bullshit.
It's not idealistic bullshit for people with principles. Rofl.
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On August 15 2011 17:29 ribboo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 16:51 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
If HuK does indeed join EG, I will be thoroughly entertained for days reading the senseless, baseless, and uncalled for rabble from this forum. If you want Esports to succeed, things like this must happen. Competition between teams in this manner forces everyone to strive to improve their situation. If you indeed do think you know HuK like he is your best friend and believe there is no way he would give up his situation in Korea or in the TL-OGS practice house, then I feel sorry for you and your wishful thinking. Maybe those things are true, but they would have little bearing in the face of an actual contractual offer from a team like EG.
There are a multitude of reasons I love EG and the main one is that this team above all the others is actually trying to make Esports succesful outside of Korea. Most of the posters on this forum (in my humble opinion) do not want Esports to suceed like some say, but instead want SC2 to be like BW and for their precious TL to remain the center of the international SC2 universe forever. For Esports to suceed, it MUST slowly evolve into the way other professional sports are handled and the current model certainly is nothing close.
I know it must be terible to think that your favorite player might be leaving his team (something of which we are not yet certain) but honestly, are you approaching this from a selfish perspective that only allows for a SC2 world that you envision? Based on what I've read in this thread, I think some of you have to answer yes.
Lastly, I love to watch good Starcraft 2, I love the game. It's highly entertaining and I believe it has the potential to become something great, players like HuK, Idra, etc do a lot torwards making that goal a reality, and I would hate to see the out of game aspects construe what has become a blossoming Esport. Think of it has Real Madrid signing a player from Barcelona or vice-versa. Of course there is going to be hate. Happens in every sport, its not a bad sign it happens here either. people care, thats good.
Michael Laudrup switched from barcelona to real madrid and was the most hated man in catalunya that year. Barcelona had won the championship three years prior but laudrup brougth real madrid the trophy that year
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On August 15 2011 17:34 -Strider- wrote:
Seriously, where the fuck did people get all the rumours that Huk will join EG?
There was a thread about it but it got deleted.
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On August 15 2011 17:34 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:33 NoobSkills wrote:On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote:
Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...
IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.
Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money. Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends. What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie. Yup in your job no matter what your job is, if a head hunter came through and offered you double what you were making you wouldn't leave despite friendships at the company. Fucking idealistic bullshit. It's not idealistic bullshit for people with principles. Rofl.
It's still bullshit to realists. But hey, I'm not complaining, we need idealists around.
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On August 15 2011 17:31 IceSlipper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:30 Dox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 IceSlipper wrote:
People say you can move your clock forward and it opens the audio's (which are not yet uploaded anyway, thus unplayable). Since im in australia and my countdown is at 17:37 remaining, and there is still only 1 audio available, does that mean that we wont be getting another audio clip for at least 17 hours considering the 'real' countdown still has over 1day 10hours remaining and the second clip isnt until less than 17hours? I think you need to reconsider your logic. Fast forwarding the clock does not prompt an individual to upload a file to their server. im not saying we would be able to hear the audio clip.. people just say the button to push it appears, but you still cant hear it (because it hasnt been uploaded yet, since the timer is incorrect).. im merely asking if we can use the clock to determine WHEN the audio clips will actually be uploaded..
What I'm saying is, the countdown was there long before the first MP3 was uploaded. So no, the countdown does not indicate such. We can probably expect the next MP3 within 2 hours.
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On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote:
Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...
IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.
Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money. Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends. What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie.
I dunno what you mean? What's wrong with wanting more money. Most people are trying to obtain more. HuK, I'm sure, has material desires. You can say friendship outweighs that, but I think the damage to friendship would be pretty minimal.
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On August 15 2011 17:32 Angelbelow wrote:
hmmmmm... look for the 4 horsemen..
TL Logo
Sotg episode
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Conquest
War
Famine
Death
Red
Pale
White
Black
Hmmm. None of that is helpful, really. I don't really associate a color with huk, if any maybe blue, and none of the 4 things the horsemen in the bible represent have anything to do with this.
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