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On August 16 2011 22:27 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this? I already am. But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that. That's really sad. A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple. How is switching teams selling out?. Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams. SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out. 100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports. Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose. The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all. Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that? That depends on the difference in salaries. If he is gatting say 20k a year at liquid with a chance at GSL every month lets syay he always gets top 16. thats about 38k a year. If EG offers him 50 or 60k a year then it is not a short term gain it is a long term gain. That doesn't include extra stream money he would get if he moved back to NA and streamed during prime hours instead of koreans hours, the ability to play NASL, as well as many weekly online cups.
Exactly. People need to stop pretending a professional gamer's career will last more than 5-10 years on average. Yeah, there are exceptions like Whitera and Boxer, but anyone but an honest-to-god bonjwa needs to strike while the iron is hot.
If the difference in salary is something like 20k to 60k, then you'd be an absolute fool not to take the opportunity.
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Many people it is regarding possibly bringing White-ra to team EG
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On August 16 2011 22:29 Slakkoo wrote:
What does
video_sed_non_credo.
Mean?
"video sed non credo" : "I see it, but I don't believe it" - Caspar Hofmann after being shown proof of the circulatory system by William Harvey.
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The hype will surely not live up to it's expectations :p
People should prepare that it's going to be disappointing to what they are expecting :D
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On August 16 2011 22:27 Rustug wrote:EG moving into China then?
Apparently the post was TLPD-ized and the 'iS' was substituted in for 'is'.
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On August 16 2011 22:28 habeck wrote:
TLo Going to EG maybe?
No way, he's publically said he really dislikes EG.
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On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qLRAd.jpg)
FUCK! Biggest lol sofar!
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On August 16 2011 22:29 Hammer442 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:27 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this? I already am. But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that. That's really sad. A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple. How is switching teams selling out?. Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams. SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out. 100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports. Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose. The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all. Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that? That depends on the difference in salaries. If he is gatting say 20k a year at liquid with a chance at GSL every month lets syay he always gets top 16. thats about 38k a year. If EG offers him 50 or 60k a year then it is not a short term gain it is a long term gain. That doesn't include extra stream money he would get if he moved back to NA and streamed during prime hours instead of koreans hours, the ability to play NASL, as well as many weekly online cups. No such thing as prime streaming hours. Popular streams get solid viewer numbers all day no matter the time because of europe/aus/asia
Most of those viewers don't get served ads, so they might as well not be there as far as ad revenue goes.
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On August 16 2011 22:24 Omican wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:23 KeksX wrote:On August 16 2011 22:22 NB wrote:
iS is a tag of clan infinitySeven on NA ladder with quite some scary GM level player... not sure if related. The iS stuff is just a bad troll attempt because someone mentioned it earlier. Few minutes after that they tweeted it. Clearly, they are scanning this thread and act accordingly. They are monitoring us. We must talk in code from here on out. o:
jUsT cApItAlIzE eVeRy SeCoNd LeTtEr. ThEy WoN't SuSpEcT a ThInG.
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Catching up from page 450, but this was updated 20 minutes ago on twitter: Apologies if it has been posted.
EvilGeniuses Team EG
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Doesnt mean anything. Page existed before.
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On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
Needs some Haypro too
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/riptide/liquid/icanhascheezburger.jpg)
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I don't see why any of koreans don't want to get a house in the USA, more prizemoney to be made? And wayyy more money from sponsors... the fanbase is what wins in the USA sooo why haven't any moved over to earn some easy $$$. Wtf mate?
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On August 16 2011 22:25 R3demption wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:16 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:15 spawnzero wrote:On August 16 2011 22:13 yeint wrote:On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this? I already am. But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that. That's really sad. A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple. A professional gamer moving to a new team once his contract is up is not "selling out". The term "sellout" is used for artists who sacrifice their artistic integrity in order to appeal to larger audiences. / Using it in this context is absolutely juvenile. And by "juvenile", I mean that you appear to be about 12 years old, and treat Team Liquid as some sort of league of superheroes, instead of the professional gaming team that it is. Very true statement. If, for example, Peyton Manning were traded/resigned to say the Dolphins for way more money (for god knows what reason), people wouldn't be like OMG what a sellout fuck him!!! They'd just see it as "Wow, sucks for the colts but good for him he's making way more money." To be fair colts fans may well call him a sellout The real question is: Is it fair to judge a professional for changing teams for a greater opportunity? Come on, its a fact of life in sports, players just want the best for themselves and the fans will think what they want about it. The manner in which they leave the team could very well be looked down upon however: think Lebron James and that whole Heat party as soon as he left the Cavs. But if a player leaves respectfully and honorably I cant help but feel good about it. When a player is comfortable and where he wants to be, he performs his best IMO. Like Ben Wallace leaving the Pistons for the Bulls?
For future ingame success, does anyone think being on EG is better than being on OGSTL?
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On August 16 2011 22:27 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this? I already am. But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that. That's really sad. A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple. How is switching teams selling out?. Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams. SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out. 100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports. Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose. The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all. Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that? That depends on the difference in salaries. If he is gatting say 20k a year at liquid with a chance at GSL every month lets syay he always gets top 16. thats about 38k a year. If EG offers him 50 or 60k a year then it is not a short term gain it is a long term gain. That doesn't include extra stream money he would get if he moved back to NA and streamed during prime hours instead of koreans hours, the ability to play NASL, as well as many weekly online cups.
If he wants a reliable good salary he shouldn't be a progamer. Being a progamer is about winning, and moving to NA is terrible for that.
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On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
Oh my god, I laughed out loud.
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On August 16 2011 22:32 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:29 Hammer442 wrote:On August 16 2011 22:27 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this? I already am. But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that. That's really sad. A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple. How is switching teams selling out?. Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams. SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out. 100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports. Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose. The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all. Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that? That depends on the difference in salaries. If he is gatting say 20k a year at liquid with a chance at GSL every month lets syay he always gets top 16. thats about 38k a year. If EG offers him 50 or 60k a year then it is not a short term gain it is a long term gain. That doesn't include extra stream money he would get if he moved back to NA and streamed during prime hours instead of koreans hours, the ability to play NASL, as well as many weekly online cups. No such thing as prime streaming hours. Popular streams get solid viewer numbers all day no matter the time because of europe/aus/asia Most of those viewers don't get served ads, so they might as well not be there as far as ad revenue goes.
Yes they do, every region gets region specific ads on j.tv now.
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On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
ROFL
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EPT
