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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10461
On August 16 2011 22:30 tabbott26 wrote:
I don't know if this means anything, but:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/24_Evil_Geniuses


WOW! WTF?!?!?!

EG now only has three members? 0.o
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10462
EG.CarlosTevez :O no f'n way!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10463
On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
[image loading]

That is hilarious. OMG, I cannot stop laughing.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10464
Machine vs Haypro eating contest? FUCK YEAH!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
zedest
Profile Joined October 2010
England60 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10465
Huk joins EG, EG partners with Startale, and enters the GSTL, Huk stays in korea and lives in the Startale house.

If Huk joins EG the only thing that would make sense is EG partnering with a korean team or else huk would just be hindering his progress.

you heard it here 1st. (unless someone else already said this)
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10466
On August 16 2011 22:33 bloken wrote:
I don't see why any of koreans don't want to get a house in the USA, more prizemoney to be made? And wayyy more money from sponsors... the fanbase is what wins in the USA sooo why haven't any moved over to earn some easy $$$. Wtf mate?


The more prizemoney to be made is a myth. go look at the top earners for SC2 they are al korean.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#10467
On August 16 2011 22:33 IceSlipper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
[image loading]

ROFL


Now thats EPIC.
Dear Sixsmith...
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
August 16 2011 13:34 GMT
#10468
On August 16 2011 22:32 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
[image loading]

Needs some Haypro too
[image loading]


Making me hungry ... *grumble* ><
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
OnelightZ
Profile Joined May 2011
England33 Posts
August 16 2011 13:34 GMT
#10469
On August 16 2011 22:33 zedest wrote:
Huk joins EG, EG partners with Startale, and enters the GSTL, Huk stays in korea and lives in the Startale house.

If Huk joins EG the only thing that would make sense is EG partnering with a korean team or else huk would just be hindering his progress.

you heard it here 1st. (unless someone else already said this)


only 90% of people so far
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10470
On August 16 2011 22:31 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 Loxley wrote:
[image loading]


MMMMMMMMM McMachine


Dear lord, you've made me hungry.
Bora Pain minha porra!
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10471
On August 16 2011 22:33 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 tabbott26 wrote:
I don't know if this means anything, but:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/24_Evil_Geniuses


WOW! WTF?!?!?!

EG now only has three members? 0.o


Nah, it's under korean teams, there's an international one too. I don't think it means anything personally, just thought I'd check..
EGHuK - EGIdra - EGDeMuslim - MVPGenius - Liquid'Sheth - ROOTKiwikaki
TheStonerer
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada278 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10472
So last sound byte at 1130 Eastern. Hype!
Buzerio
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10473
On August 16 2011 22:33 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:33 bloken wrote:
I don't see why any of koreans don't want to get a house in the USA, more prizemoney to be made? And wayyy more money from sponsors... the fanbase is what wins in the USA sooo why haven't any moved over to earn some easy $$$. Wtf mate?


The more prizemoney to be made is a myth. go look at the top earners for SC2 they are al korean.


yes but to win any money in Korea from prizes you have to WIN GSL, in EU and US you tend to get prizes for coming in positions other than 1st aswell
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10474
On August 16 2011 22:32 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 tabbott26 wrote:
I don't know if this means anything, but:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/24_Evil_Geniuses


Doesnt mean anything. Page existed before.



I know iNc went to Korea to try and qualify for the GSL, don't know about Machine.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Makrel
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark150 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10475
On August 16 2011 22:33 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 tabbott26 wrote:
I don't know if this means anything, but:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/24_Evil_Geniuses


WOW! WTF?!?!?!

EG now only has three members? 0.o

This is from the korean TLPD, which means it only shows people who have played games in korea.
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10476
On August 16 2011 22:33 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:30 tabbott26 wrote:
I don't know if this means anything, but:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/24_Evil_Geniuses


WOW! WTF?!?!?!

EG now only has three members? 0.o


lol thats just because only three of its members have ever played in korea. thats the sc2-korea tlpd link
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 16 2011 13:35 GMT
#10477
Can we break 600 pages before the announcement is announced!?
Get crunk
Lordwar
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland243 Posts
August 16 2011 13:36 GMT
#10478
On August 16 2011 22:31 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:27 Tantaburs wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this?



I already am.

But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that.


That's really sad.



A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple.


How is switching teams selling out?.

Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more

If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams.

SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out.


100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports.

Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose.


The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all.

Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that?


That depends on the difference in salaries.

If he is gatting say 20k a year at liquid with a chance at GSL every month lets syay he always gets top 16. thats about 38k a year. If EG offers him 50 or 60k a year then it is not a short term gain it is a long term gain. That doesn't include extra stream money he would get if he moved back to NA and streamed during prime hours instead of koreans hours, the ability to play NASL, as well as many weekly online cups.


Exactly. People need to stop pretending a professional gamer's career will last more than 5-10 years on average. Yeah, there are exceptions like Whitera and Boxer, but anyone but an honest-to-god bonjwa needs to strike while the iron is hot.

If the difference in salary is something like 20k to 60k, then you'd be an absolute fool not to take the opportunity.

There is no seen reason why huk should stop his pro gaming career after 5-10 years. Progaming has became a bit more acceptable by then, than it is now or few years ago.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 16 2011 13:36 GMT
#10479
On August 16 2011 22:35 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:32 00Visor wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:30 tabbott26 wrote:
I don't know if this means anything, but:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/24_Evil_Geniuses


Doesnt mean anything. Page existed before.



I know iNc went to Korea to try and qualify for the GSL, don't know about Machine.

Machine isn't on it?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 13:36:44
August 16 2011 13:36 GMT
#10480
On August 16 2011 22:19 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this?



I already am.

But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that.


That's really sad.



A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple.


How is switching teams selling out?.

Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more

If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams.

SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out.


100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports.

Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose.


The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all.

Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that?



He is not being criticized for the reasons you listed, but to answer your question: You're saying what "will" happen. Not what has happened. If HuK leaves the oGs-TL house and still stays in code S, will you come back and retract your words? I think it is unfair to criticize him for what "might" happen.

Not to say living in the pro-house hasn't helped him, quite the contrary. But I think you have to give him the chance to succeed first before you can criticize him for failing.


However, the majority of people are more upset that HuK is leaving TL, precious TL. I can appreciate the fact that this is TL's site, and people should rightfully so support TL. But the bases for the hate on HuK is purely the fact that he's leaving TL, nothing more.


I don't particularly care about TL, EG, or whatever foreigner team. I like some of them more or less because of their policies and what they are trying to do, but what I want more then anything else is an actual competitive foreigner scene.

What I care about is the foreigners that actually have the ambition to make it in Korea, to go there, and improve their game under the best circumstances possible. People like Nani, Thorzain, SaSe, Jinro, Fenix and Huk. Switching from an organisation with their priorities straight (making their players the best possible) to a team with priorities along the lines of 'causing as much controversy as possible while occasionally buying out a good player in order have some sort of a shot at tournament wins' means you go from a player I care somewhat about to a player don't see the point in following anymore.

If Huk does indeed join EG (what it looks like now) and they don't offer a similar korean infrastructure as to what oGs, he becomes another idra/sheth to me. Players with a massive potential, that choose not to apply themselves because they are more comfortable in their new situation.

Obviously all the players have the right to make that decision, and I don't hate them for it or anything, but it's just as much my right to simply not care anymore and root for the other guys that are trying.
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