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HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
August 13 2011 02:53 GMT
#21
ROFL now here come all these people gonna protect America when they were bashing China earlier as a culture because of what they did. How are the americans better here when they are hunting rare animals? Yeah the Chinese permitted it, but because of the profit stance. Isn't it "immoral" for the Americans to do this? keke
yandere991
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia394 Posts
August 13 2011 02:54 GMT
#22
I'm just curious why the International Union for Conservation is protecting least concern and non threatened animals.
Rembot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States137 Posts
August 13 2011 02:58 GMT
#23
On August 13 2011 11:47 TerlocSG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 11:38 kaisen wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:37 .Aar wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:34 kaisen wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:32 AustinCM wrote:
Do you have to say American scum bag hunters? This isn't something the average American would want to do for sure.

They were Americans. What did you want me to say? Those "yankee" scumbag hunters?


The fact that they were American has basically no relevance. You build a bike, people will ride it.

Funny. I don't see any other people with different nationality paying money to hunt those endangered animals... yet.


So by saying "... yet." your admitting your judgement on the nationality of the hunters has nothing to do with the story and you blew a whistle at their being Americans too early.

As soon as ANY other hunters of another nationality participate in this hunting your comment is completely bigoted. That's what people are getting at.

You didn't have to stress the fact that they were American, you chose to. You could have said "scum bag hunters" and made the same point.


Said it better than I could.

All I can say is, if you don't like 'murrica, you can giiiiit out!
"Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring..... banana phone!"
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
August 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#24
I saw this thread and immediately went to go check who made the "bear" thread.

Yep, no surprise. The same OP.

I hope you aren't going to start regularly spamming General with animal cruelty stories.

How am I supposed to respond to this except "awww, that's too bad." Unlike many people, apparently, I don't enjoy reveling in righteous indignation.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Frumpysnoo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
August 13 2011 03:03 GMT
#25
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#26
First the bear thread and now this?
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
Livelovedie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States492 Posts
August 13 2011 03:07 GMT
#27
Non-story, this appears to be akin to hunting white-tailed deer in America due to the animals conservation statuses.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 13 2011 03:08 GMT
#28
awww that's too bad poor gazelles, I really get sick of people bashing my country on the internet. You have nothing better to do than this?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 13 2011 03:09 GMT
#29
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 03:10:38
August 13 2011 03:10 GMT
#30
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?

well idk maybe their DNA has the cure to cancer, you never know. Since DNA strains don't really repeat itself after extinction it's rather important.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 13 2011 03:10 GMT
#31
On August 13 2011 12:10 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?

well idk maybe their DNA has the cure to cancer, you never know.
Right, well, thats retarded. I can think of all numbers of things that we "should" do because of all numbers of unknown variables. Thats clearly not rational.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 13 2011 03:12 GMT
#32
On August 13 2011 12:10 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:10 Blasterion wrote:
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?

well idk maybe their DNA has the cure to cancer, you never know.
Right, well, thats retarded. I can think of all numbers of things that we "should" do because of all numbers of unknown variables. Thats clearly not rational.

Well logically it's because DNA variables do not repeat itself after a species extincts and X specie may cure Y disease in the future, useful to keep 1 or 2 around just for medicinal reasons
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
ppdealer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada163 Posts
August 13 2011 03:13 GMT
#33
On August 13 2011 11:58 Rembot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 11:47 TerlocSG wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:38 kaisen wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:37 .Aar wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:34 kaisen wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:32 AustinCM wrote:
Do you have to say American scum bag hunters? This isn't something the average American would want to do for sure.

They were Americans. What did you want me to say? Those "yankee" scumbag hunters?


The fact that they were American has basically no relevance. You build a bike, people will ride it.

Funny. I don't see any other people with different nationality paying money to hunt those endangered animals... yet.


So by saying "... yet." your admitting your judgement on the nationality of the hunters has nothing to do with the story and you blew a whistle at their being Americans too early.

As soon as ANY other hunters of another nationality participate in this hunting your comment is completely bigoted. That's what people are getting at.

You didn't have to stress the fact that they were American, you chose to. You could have said "scum bag hunters" and made the same point.


Said it better than I could.

All I can say is, if you don't like 'murrica, you can giiiiit out!


Eh? You Americans should feel ashamed that some of your fellows are out there hunting endangered species protected by International treaties. I'm of Chinese origin as well and you don't see me jump up in hoops to defend the things my government do that are just plain wrong.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 03:18:21
August 13 2011 03:15 GMT
#34
On August 13 2011 12:12 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:10 lizzard_warish wrote:
On August 13 2011 12:10 Blasterion wrote:
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?

well idk maybe their DNA has the cure to cancer, you never know.
Right, well, thats retarded. I can think of all numbers of things that we "should" do because of all numbers of unknown variables. Thats clearly not rational.

Well logically it's because DNA variables do not repeat itself after a species extincts and X specie may cure Y disease in the future, useful to keep 1 or 2 around just for medicinal reasons
Can we not simply preserve the DNA as we preserve seeds [in norway I think]? Not to mention 1 or 2 isnt genetically viable, to keep a species sustainable... well it obviously differs on the species, but its usually north of 1000.
On August 13 2011 12:15 Rembot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?


We don't really have a moral duty to preserve species, unless your own morals make you feel duty-bound to do so.

What we do have is a biological duty to preserve species, since it's been proven that biological diversity is the key to survival. If we only had a few species then it wouldn't take very much to wipe us out.

Yeah, so in other words, our only impetuous is to make sure we dont wipe out about ten thousand species for no reason, especially ones crucial to important eco systems. It leaves literally no room for bleeding hearts, or relevance, for the odd extinction from pollution, hunting, human expansion etc. It's only an issue on the macro scale. Not to mention the posts here [which werent critical of the op] did not follow the nature of fear for low genetic diversity, they followed the nature of moral disgust, which is ridiculous until some quasi valid ontological basis for a moral system which makes one duty bound to preserving animals for their own sake arises.
Rembot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States137 Posts
August 13 2011 03:15 GMT
#35
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?


We don't really have a moral duty to preserve species, unless your own morals make you feel duty-bound to do so.

What we do have is a biological duty to preserve species, since it's been proven that biological diversity is the key to survival. If we only had a few species then it wouldn't take very much to wipe us out.
"Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring..... banana phone!"
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 03:17:11
August 13 2011 03:16 GMT
#36
On August 13 2011 12:15 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:12 Blasterion wrote:
On August 13 2011 12:10 lizzard_warish wrote:
On August 13 2011 12:10 Blasterion wrote:
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?

well idk maybe their DNA has the cure to cancer, you never know.
Right, well, thats retarded. I can think of all numbers of things that we "should" do because of all numbers of unknown variables. Thats clearly not rational.

Well logically it's because DNA variables do not repeat itself after a species extincts and X specie may cure Y disease in the future, useful to keep 1 or 2 around just for medicinal reasons
Can we not simply preserve the DNA as we preserve seeds [in norway I think]? Not to mention 1 or 2 isnt genetically viable, to keep a species sustainable... well it obviously differs on the species, but its usually north of 1000.

Well I didn't express it well , but you get the idea, Rembot explain it better
On August 13 2011 12:15 Rembot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 12:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Why do we have a moral duty to preserve species?


We don't really have a moral duty to preserve species, unless your own morals make you feel duty-bound to do so.

What we do have is a biological duty to preserve species, since it's been proven that biological diversity is the key to survival. If we only had a few species then it wouldn't take very much to wipe us out.

[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Rembot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States137 Posts
August 13 2011 03:18 GMT
#37
On August 13 2011 12:13 ppdealer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 11:58 Rembot wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:47 TerlocSG wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:38 kaisen wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:37 .Aar wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:34 kaisen wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:32 AustinCM wrote:
Do you have to say American scum bag hunters? This isn't something the average American would want to do for sure.

They were Americans. What did you want me to say? Those "yankee" scumbag hunters?


The fact that they were American has basically no relevance. You build a bike, people will ride it.

Funny. I don't see any other people with different nationality paying money to hunt those endangered animals... yet.


So by saying "... yet." your admitting your judgement on the nationality of the hunters has nothing to do with the story and you blew a whistle at their being Americans too early.

As soon as ANY other hunters of another nationality participate in this hunting your comment is completely bigoted. That's what people are getting at.

You didn't have to stress the fact that they were American, you chose to. You could have said "scum bag hunters" and made the same point.


Said it better than I could.

All I can say is, if you don't like 'murrica, you can giiiiit out!


Eh? You Americans should feel ashamed that some of your fellows are out there hunting endangered species protected by International treaties. I'm of Chinese origin as well and you don't see me jump up in hoops to defend the things my government do that are just plain wrong.


I am ashamed of them, but you don't see me going out of my way to identify them as "American". They're just stupid, rich hunters with no respect. The fact that they're from America is not very relevant to the discussion. If it was shown that there were hundreds of American hunters taking advantage of these offers from the Chinese government, then the argument would have some merit. As it stands, it's a few isolated nutjobs with an obsession for killing endangered animals.
"Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring..... banana phone!"
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
August 13 2011 03:18 GMT
#38
This is ridiculously sensationalist. The endangered species list even says that they are not even near extinction at the moment, and are not likely to become extinct, our even threatened without major changes to their current population. I'm sure we in america have similar offenses to this.

The bear thread was legitimate, this is not.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 03:19:21
August 13 2011 03:18 GMT
#39
Bharal isn't an endangered species.. OP no research before thread post? This is why you wiki everything..
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
August 13 2011 03:19 GMT
#40
Did you know you can pay 50 thousand for a native tracker and license to go bag yourself one of them polar bear trophies in Canada? Supplies not included of course.

At least, monetarily speaking, China values those animals more then Canada does.
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