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On July 23 2011 02:52 DoXa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:48 Otori wrote:On July 23 2011 02:44 Sqq wrote: To all of you who doesn't understand why the cops doesn't carry a gun at all times. Our culture has no need for it. We have close to zero homocides in open streets, and close to zero all over. This is just so far from anything we as a nation are used too. Quoted for truth, police officers in norway are nowhere near prepared or used to this kind of shit because it just never happens in countries like norway, denmark, sweden Terrorism is nothing for the normal police, doesn't matter if it is norway, germany or the US. For this stuff there are anti-terror police troops. and they are very well prepared for such things.
And how much "real" terrorism do you think these special officers have experienced? About none, so no, these special police officers in northen europe are not prepared for real terrorism.
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had a phonecall from my cousin who told me about the situation looked pretty grim
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On July 23 2011 02:57 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done. Ya that's worked well in the past. O_o i think we just have to wait 50years and then it will dissapear.... into the ground. at least i hope!
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On July 23 2011 02:50 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:48 Jochan wrote:On July 23 2011 02:47 Smapz wrote: Things surely needs a change, certain people probably shouldn't be allowed in this country anymore. Which people? Who did this ? Do You know ? blond, nordic guys apparently since he's the only one we know for sure is involved with killing citizen. Indeed. Reports are that the gunman in Utøya is/was blond, blue eyed.
People are way too quick to make judgements. Even if the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim extremists, which so far nothing points to being the case, they still do not represent the general Muslim population or the immigrant population in Norway at all.
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On July 23 2011 02:57 Otori wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:52 DoXa wrote:On July 23 2011 02:48 Otori wrote:On July 23 2011 02:44 Sqq wrote: To all of you who doesn't understand why the cops doesn't carry a gun at all times. Our culture has no need for it. We have close to zero homocides in open streets, and close to zero all over. This is just so far from anything we as a nation are used too. Quoted for truth, police officers in norway are nowhere near prepared or used to this kind of shit because it just never happens in countries like norway, denmark, sweden Terrorism is nothing for the normal police, doesn't matter if it is norway, germany or the US. For this stuff there are anti-terror police troops. and they are very well prepared for such things. And how much "real" terrorism do you think these special officers have experienced? About none, so no, these special police officers in northen europe are not prepared for real terrorism.
What does that even mean?
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On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it.
Also, if that would have been a terror attack, it wouldn't have targeted government buildings and institutions but instead supermarkets, subway stations or other crowded areas. Sounds more like a political motivated attack by some inner country party.
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The worst part about all this is you cant stop it. In the end it doesnt matter what kind of security you have if some guy loads up and descides he is gonna do this all you can do is try and reduce the casualitys. Same thing with bombers. If they decide they are doin it and dont give a shit what happens to them theres really absolutely nothing you can do. Suppose thats why its called terror.
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On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done.
When has a ban on anything popular ever had the effect of eliminating said thing, alcohol prohibition, and illegal recreational drugs would like to have a word with you. Also religion was not necessarily involved here, most likely politics.
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On July 23 2011 02:56 shabby wrote: Speculations on national television are around a homemade fertilizerbomb at up to 400kg's was used. -NRK
Roughly half the size of the Oklahoma city bomb, and that was an enormous blast. I can't believe the building hasn't suffered more damage.
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On July 23 2011 02:18 Neeh wrote: Arrested...suprised he wasn't gunned down. 2 attempts same day? you dont wanna take him down, you wanna find out what he knows
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On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done. Attack the governments that harbor them (Iran) instead of ones with dictators of petty power. It might not seem it, but terrorists cannot operate without a government that enables them. They need to trade and exchange for everything from food to warheads, just like anyone else.
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On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done.
Religion is not the problem. It is the guys who are using it for terror and make think people like you that religion is really problem.
Please stop saying that, I am a christian and i would never make that.
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On July 23 2011 02:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I wonder if this is/was Gaddafi's threat to carry the war abroad... This looks more and more like some kind of radical nationalist group of crazy people. Attack on government buildings, shooting in the camp where PM were supposed to be on some kind of political rally. It will sound brutal and heartless, but casualties count is rather low for terrorist attack which are meant to cause massive casualties and wide spread panic/terror.
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On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done.
Extremists are not representative of an entire religion, and one does not just ban religion. Don't be a moron.
I am not saying that a lack of religion implies anything terrible, but religion itself is not the root of these problems--it's stupid people doing stupid things.
Sorry, didn't mean to be trolled, but he had to be called out.
This is terrible news...is it confirmed that al Qaeda is behind the attack, or is it still rumors at this point? Hope as few people as possible were hurt.
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Do you guys understand that more people is going to get warned/banned if you start the Religion/gun/etc bullshit.
Just focus on what is happening right now and stop with the rest. At least for now..
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On July 23 2011 02:55 1ManArmy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:53 shabby wrote: Unconfirmed witness reports claim that the guy dressed as a policeofficer told kids to "come here", and then proceeded to execute them. -NRK What a sick fuck.
Yeah, what the hell.. Sick sick people
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On July 23 2011 02:59 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:57 Otori wrote:On July 23 2011 02:52 DoXa wrote:On July 23 2011 02:48 Otori wrote:On July 23 2011 02:44 Sqq wrote: To all of you who doesn't understand why the cops doesn't carry a gun at all times. Our culture has no need for it. We have close to zero homocides in open streets, and close to zero all over. This is just so far from anything we as a nation are used too. Quoted for truth, police officers in norway are nowhere near prepared or used to this kind of shit because it just never happens in countries like norway, denmark, sweden Terrorism is nothing for the normal police, doesn't matter if it is norway, germany or the US. For this stuff there are anti-terror police troops. and they are very well prepared for such things. And how much "real" terrorism do you think these special officers have experienced? About none, so no, these special police officers in northen europe are not prepared for real terrorism. What does that even mean?
It means they have no real world xp in dealing with these things. Which is about like saying ive read every book on being a race car driver so im an expert. Cept they have never got in the car and drove it. Which may or may not be true i have no idea what the op tempo of norwegains are i doubt its high but you never know.
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On July 23 2011 02:59 Detwiler wrote: The worst part about all this is you cant stop it. In the end it doesnt matter what kind of security you have if some guy loads up and descides he is gonna do this all you can do is try and reduce the casualitys. Same thing with bombers. If they decide they are doin it and dont give a shit what happens to them theres really absolutely nothing you can do. Suppose thats why its called terror.
Of course you can. But the right thing to do is not shit on other people's beliefs, but ask how the criminal(s) were able to build and transport a bomb? Should the ingredients be more tightly controlled? How did the guy got firearms? How was he allowed to enter the island armed? (if it's true that police officers do not normally bear arms there)
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that is.. unbelieveable..
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