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On July 23 2011 00:38 Knuppe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:31 Ingebrigtsen wrote:I dont like how the norwegian people are already blaming muslims... we are a racist bunch unfortunately  orly? Please tell me how its racism. Its obviously muslims that blow themselves up we all know this, when another bomb goes off we all know a muslim did it its a fact. Please prove me wrong if you can, which I know you cant. Racism is juding people by their skin color or where they come from, Islam is NOT a race its a political ideology that actually supported nazi-germany and teaches racism, hate against homosexuals and non-believers.
This what you're describing is racist. Racism is hate against a race or ethnic group. Hating muslim extremists is not the same as hating muslims.
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On July 23 2011 00:36 DoXa wrote: i'm wondering how a car bomb can cause a fire in the 4th story?
Something on the 4th floor was flammable?
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Foreign hostile party FRP is gonna have a field day with this...
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Dang...didn't expect this in Norway. I am going to call my family in Oslo and see if they are alright.
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MrTortoise, "few people"? There has been no numbers given yet, but predictions are high numbers. Only 2 people verifyed as of now, but numbers will rise.
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On July 23 2011 00:36 FliedLice wrote: Seems so random right now...
Fucking norway? They bombed Libya and have been in Afghanistan since the start. Doesn't seem very random to me.
But i guess most countries did that ;d
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On July 23 2011 00:35 MrTortoise wrote: I ahve no idea why you guys are cvlaiming gas explosion and not high explosives ... back up your claims
dunno why the bbc is claiming car bomb when the damage in the building is clearly top heavy
It look slike HE which could be gas ...t he problem though is that the volume of gas required for that blast would be extremley large adn the mix with air would ahve to be right ... then you nered the spark ... a blast that size would ahve to be deliberate
The other consideration is that very few people were killed ... that suggests some prior warning
As for people belonging to a small section of a larger religion that is gettign the blame .... consider this
If your religion (and this is true of all religions) is being used by evil people under the name of good ... then by supporting that religion you are supporting the vehicle they use for their hate .... if you were really interested in morality you would publically refuse o be part of any religion on moral grounds despite what you privately believe.
If it was muslim 'extremists' then it was muslims ... if you are muslim and gfeel like you are being tarred ... tough shit ... catholics and protestants have been blowing the crap out of the uk and ireland for years. They are evil bastards also.
police have confirmed that it's a car bomb.
The reason that so few were killed and injured is largely to do with most people being away on vacation. Oslo basically empties at this time of year.
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On July 23 2011 00:38 Knuppe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:31 Ingebrigtsen wrote:I dont like how the norwegian people are already blaming muslims... we are a racist bunch unfortunately  orly? Please tell me how its racism. Its obviously muslims that blow themselves up we all know this, when another bomb goes off we all know a muslim did it its a fact. Please prove me wrong if you can, which I know you cant. Racism is juding people by their skin color or where they come from, Islam is NOT a race its a political ideology that actually supported nazi-germany and teaches racism, hate against homosexuals and non-believers.
Muslims =/= Islamists.
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On July 23 2011 00:36 DoXa wrote: i'm wondering how a car bomb can cause a fire in the 4th story?
Car bombs can be filled with excessive amounts of explosive material. I know some drug cartel in South America once used a car filled with 1100 lbs. of TNT and leveled a few city blocks.
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Norway have been a major part in the afghan war too.. so they are not really neutral.
But this is very sad From what i read there is at least 2 confirmed dead.. Just next door to "my" country to..
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Come on, don't post pictures of dead people.. It is might be very disturbing for some people.
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I hope whoever has done this is caught, tortured for additional information, and then brought to justice via stoning in the streets of Olso.. That's what I would do.
My thoughts are with the Norse today, I've been to Norway once and it was beautiful.. I'm sad now.
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On July 23 2011 00:40 Mo0Rauder wrote: I hope whoever has done this is caught, tortured for additional information, and then brought to justice via stoning in the streets of Olso.. That's what I would do.
My thoughts are with the Norse today, I've been to Norway once and it was beautiful.. I'm sad now.
Yes lets degrade our western standards in pursuit of justice.
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On July 23 2011 00:36 Ghad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:32 shabby wrote:On July 23 2011 00:31 Ingebrigtsen wrote:I dont like how the norwegian people are already blaming muslims... we are a racist bunch unfortunately  Understandable, I guess, seeing as we are at war with a few muslim nations. That is an ignorant statement. We are involved in the Afghan and Libyan civil wars as a part of the United Nations effort. That does not mean we are at war with any of those nations. Still, it would be very unexpected if this terror does not involve islamists. And please note the separation between Islam and islamist extremism. Many muslims are guaranteed to be among the casualties in Oslo today. The definition of war is maybe off topic, but you seem to have a very strange definition. Personally I call it a war as soon as one country starts bombing another.
So far only 2 confirmed casualties, and 2 hours after the explosions only 9 injured at hospitals, its far from guaranteed that any of the few death are Muslim, not that it matters at all.
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Someone is trying to send a message.. Or was it just an accident? Pretty glad I dont live in Oslo anymore, my thoughts go out to all of you who are in that area. Stay safe, og hold dere innendørs!!
Read it first on TL btw.. Wierd. I hope this case gets cleared out fast, no need to be stuck in the past.
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On July 23 2011 00:38 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:36 FliedLice wrote: Seems so random right now...
Fucking norway? Unfortunately, Norway has had the habit of sticking its nose into every war nato and US have been involved in the last decade. Its not as random as you'd might think 
Oh come on, this is too simplistic. We are invovled in NATO operations abroad, but are far from having the largest contribution to any of these conficts, nor do we "stick our nose into every war". Before we know who or why we have been targeted, I really think people should calm down and try to speak with a voice of reason rather than poorly hidden political bias.
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On July 23 2011 00:38 Knuppe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:31 Ingebrigtsen wrote:I dont like how the norwegian people are already blaming muslims... we are a racist bunch unfortunately  orly? Please tell me how its racism. Its obviously muslims that blow themselves up we all know this, when another bomb goes off we all know a muslim did it its a fact. Please prove me wrong if you can, which I know you cant. Racism is juding people by their skin color or where they come from, Islam is NOT a race its a political ideology that actually supported nazi-germany and teaches racism, hate against homosexuals and non-believers.
Islam is a religion, not a political ideology. You're confusing it with Islamism. You can be a muslim without being an islamist.
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Glad me and the GF flew to Trondheim yesterday, live a decent bit outside of Oslo though but our favorite cafe is like 500m from where shit exploded...
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On July 23 2011 00:42 fujimi wrote: Someone is trying to send a message.. Or was it just an accident? Pretty glad I dont live in Oslo anymore, my thoughts go out to all of you who are in that area. Stay safe, og hold dere innendørs!!
Read it first on TL btw.. Wierd. I hope this case gets cleared out fast, no need to be stuck in the past.
Its been confirmed it was a bomb. And there are rumors about more. Its definitely not an accident.
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On July 23 2011 00:27 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:26 DoXa wrote: well looks like i was wrong with norway being neutral... but it isn't sure it was a terrorist act from afghanistan / lybia... Yeah, it's no way to tell as of yet what prompted this. I think its more than obvious that its muslim extremists. Who else would it be ? IRA..?
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