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On July 15 2011 05:26 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 04:54 Riku wrote:
I think you completely misunderstood. I said I had no issues in WoW other than a few small incidents. In fact, I tried to focus on how I wasn't given any priority when it came to video games.
:/
I'm starting to wonder if I'm a really bad writer and can't get my point across or if people aren't really reading my posts.
Could you clearly state what your point is? What reactions do you expect to get from posting this? edit: Jingle hit the nail on the head. Life isn't all sunshine and rainbows, you have to be prepared for the lovers and the haters.
My point is that I don't see why men get their panties in a knot, either positively or negatively, about women on the Internet. I also intended to give an "inside perspective" so guys could see what it was like to be on the receiving end.
I expected worse than what I'm getting, actually. *shrug* I guess that's a win.
On July 15 2011 05:40 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:35 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 05:25 JingleHell wrote:On July 15 2011 04:51 tofucake wrote:On July 15 2011 04:47 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 04:19 tofucake wrote:On July 15 2011 04:14 TheGiz wrote:I have a lot of respect for Riku for not taking advantage of her gender and also for sharing her experiences. What? This entire blog is taking advantage of her gender. What? "Taking advantage"? I wanted to rant about it and I figured it would be a subject that TL would like to discuss (which seems to be true). How was I taking advantage of anything? If I posted this blog from a gender neutral tone, I would hope I would have the same debates (the ones not focused on me being a female). However, it is a pain in the ass to write without bias on a subject you are bias about and I hate writing in third person when I have personal experiences that help me show my point, because then I can't use them. On July 15 2011 04:22 JingleHell wrote:
See, I think the issue here is that you're trying to get the best of both worlds. You want the benefits of being a known female gamer without the drawbacks.
You like attention. We all do. That's been done to death here. Nothing wrong with liking attention. But if you take advantage of your minority status (attractive female in a sea of males is definitely taking advantage of being in the minority), there WILL be people who dislike it. It isn't equal footing any more when you do that.
Do I think it's absolutely moronic that benefits or drawbacks exist? Absolutely. There should be no benefit or drawback. The fact is, it does happen. Since it does, and since people are really slow about changing in ways that would make them more reasonable, you are in a position where you have to pick.
If you want the benefits of being a known female in a majority single male group, you have to have thick skin. If you put yourself in the spotlight, at the forefront, to get that attention you like (like everyone else does), you have to be able to take what's going to come your way.
I'm a male. No, I don't have to hide that. But I also don't have to say it. Here's a better example. I'm an ex-soldier. I was in the US Army. That makes a lot of people hate me without any actual reason. You know what though? They can say what they want, I'll say something back, I'll laugh about it, they might piss me off, but I'll get under their skin too. But I didn't have to tell them. It's not hiding it at all. It's leaving the irrelevant baggage at the door.
My time in the Army has NOTHING to do with SC2. Your gender has NOTHING to do with SC2. If you bring it into things to get attention, you should be ready for the consequences. In other words, if you go about being an active part of the community without referencing being a female, you'll be on equal footing for getting attention.
You throw the female thing out there, it isn't equal footing anymore, but some of the attention just got negative. That's life, even if it is stupid. I don't really care for the benefits. Certainly, it's nice knowing a number of people follow my blog, but I like to think they follow my blog because of what and how I write, not because I'm a woman. As for you having been in the military, that isn't a huge trait about you. Being a female is something that effects every single waking moment of my life. I see things differently (literally), I think about things different, and I certainly have a very different perspective! Someone mentioned that I referred to myself as being feminine in my Minecraft blog post. I don't recall doing that, I certainly wasn't trying to, but I guess it just happened. Considering we use gendered terms very commonly, any blog mention my past would be fully of singular "they's" and "significant others," which would probably bring about just as much trolling. Also, if you would note, many people in my gender neutral blogs have referred to me as a "he" and I never, ever, ever correct them. I perfectly understand your point, but I think you're wrong when it comes to applying it to gender. Speaking of which, I was in the US Army, too, and I haven't mentioned that in my blogs, have I? Undoubtedly, it would have the same "attention gaining" affects that mentioning I'm female does, but I have completed avoided it for the same reason you do. On July 15 2011 04:25 Backpack wrote:On July 15 2011 04:19 tofucake wrote:On July 15 2011 04:14 TheGiz wrote:I have a lot of respect for Riku for not taking advantage of her gender and also for sharing her experiences. What? This entire blog is taking advantage of her gender. Agreed. If you stop drawing attention to your gender, you will stop getting shit for it. I post negatively in some of your blogs and rate them low from time to time because I don't like them for various reasons, none of which is you being female. If you want to fit in, stop stereotyping yourself and accept the fact that there may be other reasons why people don't like you. Wat. Just because I posted... this blog? No, seriously, this is the ONLY blog I have that focuses on my gender. Certainly, I have mentioned my gender in other blogs, but by no means has it been the main topic. A man can casually mention his gender without a second thought, so why should I have people jump on my ass when I happen to mention I'm female while discussing a completely different topic? First, yes: taking advantage. If you weren't a girl, this blog wouldn't exist and neither would the discussion. But you are a girl, and you've made this blog, and now discussion happens. It's been surprisingly civil so far, and I've enjoyed it, but the fact is that the mere fact that you are a girl and this blog is about that fact means you are taking advantage of your gender. Second, Jingle was more talking about the phenomenon of being one thing, then stating a fact about yourself, and instantly having people view you differently ("OMG YOU KILL PEOPLE YOU'RE AN EVIL BASTARD AND WE ARE GOING TO PROTEST YOUR FUNERAL WHEN YOU DIE SCUM" etc) for no other reason than X. Thanks, Tofu, that was in fact my point. It's about relevance. My military time isn't relevant in this community, but if I bring it up, I instantly get judged. Multiple judgements, and the majority of them aren't true. The difference, Riku, is that I hate BOTH polarized judgements. I'll bitch someone out for thanking me for what I did in Iraq. I hate that shit, and the ones thanking me think I was finding WMD's, and are convinced that since we found them (we didn't really) that taking down Hussein while we were there was a legitimate sort of move (not when we invade under a false premise). If someone goes the other extreme, I'll rip them a new one, or knock them out if they do it in person. Why? Because they're wrong, and if they want to call me a baby-killer, they better be ready to find out what happens when you antagonize someone you think is that hostile. The point is, you're perfectly content getting white-knight reactions, and people who follow your blog religiously (Hint, they're doing it because you're a female gamer and they're a step away from e-stalker), but you expect not to get the other reaction. You can't have the best of both worlds. It's impossible. If you bring in an irrelevant and polarized detail about yourself, expect people on both sides to react to it. So tell off your defenders, handle the flak you get yourself, and maybe people will think more of you. I assure you, people follow my blog for reasons other than I'm a female gamer and I find it highly insulting that you would even suggest that is the only reason people follow my blogs. I don't like special treatment for being female. In fact, I was very happy I didn't get any in WoW. Of course, it's fun to laugh about the few weird incidences that happen, but I am by no means proud nor encouraging of them. My blog is to write about my opinions and experiences. Just so happens I experience everything in the world as a woman, so I happen to mention that occassionally. I don't want to be treated better or worse for it. If you note, my "Guy Blog" isn't titled [Guy Blog], though that would undoubtedly have gotten me a lot more views and attention. I'm not going to tell off my "defenders," though. I think it is extremely rude to bash on someone when they go out on a limb for you, especially when they might just be defending me because they believe in what I'm saying, not because I have breasts. That doesn't mean I plan to cheer them on when I believe they are defending me just because of my gender, though. You find it highly insulting. In the same way you're shocked that people react to you being a female gamer, despite all evidence you've personally experienced to the contrary? You're shocked and insulted too easily. Maybe I'm just too cynical, but considering your blog whining about having to wear clothes... well sorry, I do in fact expect that people are titillated and responding to that. You say you don't like the special treatment, but you turn around and say you aren't going to stop people from continuing the cycle. If you allow yourself to be the woman who needs defending, you're perpetuating the image you claim to not want to exist. My wife fights her own battles. If I jump in and she isn't actually in physical danger, she'll yell at me for acting like she can't handle things for herself. That's gender equality, and she's able to succeed at acting like one of the guys. She never gets shit as a female gamer for long, because she doesn't get thin-skinned, and she dishes it back until they run crying to mommy. You want equality, that's how you get it. Equality on both sides of the line, not just the one where you don't like it.
I have yet to be shocked by anyone, especially people reacting to me being a female gamer. I've been disappointed, but never shocked.
I think I have full right to be insulted by you suggesting the only reason people follow my blogs are my tits. Not only do I know that statement isn't true, it is extremely rude for you to claim such.
If someone you aren't interested in gives you flowers, do you punch them in the face? No, you thank them for it and explain why you can't return those feelings. Or, hell, just take it, thank them and do nothing else.
And when the hell in any of my blogs have I shown that I am a woman who needs to be defended? Do you feel in any of my replies to people here I was calling out for help from white knights? Fuck no.
I don't see how your wife is any different than me other than she doesn't keep a blog on TL. I pull my own weight, I fight my own battles, but I'm not going to be the bitch who can't accept a helping hand from a stranger.
Truthfully, I've done fine in every gaming community other than here, and it's probably just because I refuse to post Starcraft blogs.
Don't like it? Bite me.
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Who cares? I don't post about SC at all :|
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I don't see why female gamers keep thinking that it's so much easier being a guy gamer....
Females get trolls and flamers and white knights.
Males get trolls and flamers.
I really doubt the grass is any greener on this side of the fence mate.
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On July 15 2011 05:43 JingleHell wrote:A lot of people just click on blogs with catchy names when they're in the little box on the left hand side.
Yup. That's the only reason I'm here. So yeah, I'm here because Riku's a girl. Reading a blog about being a guy on the net would be rather boring to me, since I've already experienced it. Reading a blog about being a girl on the net is different from what I know and being exposed to different points of view is a good way to expand your horizons...
People need to realize that if something doesn't appeal to them, it's easy to just keep on moving and find something that does. If you think someone's an attention whore, just move along and that attention whore will eventually move on when they're not finding what they crave. Not only are people wasting their time complaining about it, they're being enablers and contributing to the continuation of the same cycle they hate...
Riku - I don't give a crap that you're a girl. I probably won't remember your name by tomorrow and that's no fault of your own; it's the nature of the beast that is the Internet. There's just so much content and so little time; short of being an extremely prominent member (such as a mod or day9 or something), it's just not going to happen. The first post was an interesting read though. Thanks for that.
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On July 15 2011 05:53 tofucake wrote:
Who cares? I don't post about SC at all :|
People get on my case all of the time about it.
*sigh*
I might just refrain from posting in large, anonymous communities. While I greatly appreciate TL for having intelligent people, I find that it's size makes people quick to judge and be your enemy, but rare to approach you with friendship.
People have approached me for advice, given me support, but you know, not a single person has messaged me saying, "Oh, hi, Riku, I saw you play Vindictus, too! What character do you play?"
Is there some "plutonic" box on here I can check so I can just make friends?
:/
Also, I think people believe I put on some sort of facade online. I'm actually more prone to complain openly about how clothing sucks and talk about how much I love games and beer. My friends just consider me "one of the guys," though, and no one gets upset over it. It's that way in my WoW guild, too. It's to this great point where gender doesn't matter, it's just a big family/friendgroup. I guess I was just hoping that could expand to the entire Internet and we could all live in one happy place of digital joy!
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Sadly, no. TL is a hard community to break into, and always has been. Mostly because it's different. It takes a while to become part of the pack. But I promise you there are plenty of people defending you behind the scenes.
Quitting serves no purpose other than a lot of time invested in getting into the community going to waste.
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On July 15 2011 05:36 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:35 TheAura wrote:
i dont see how any of this is her taking advantage. She posted a personally story about being a minority in the gaming scene, with a little bit of history of her life as well.
People post life stories and opinions all the time in these blogs, big deal.
is she taking advantage of her being a girl for attention here? no, she posted a blog expressing opinions and thoughts, like so many other people do.
the fact is, Riku, is that people are assholes.
Get used to it
. More asians play video games than white people. That makes me a minority. You know what would happen if I made a blog about being white?
if you posted a blog about your experiences being white, i bet most wouldn't give a flying fuck and it wouldnt get 10+ pages of hate, unless you posted something competely derogatory, which Riku has not.
you are doing exactly what Riku thinks is stupid, is guys getting, as she worded it, "their panties in a knot because she is a women."
while your attitude is highly negative and is only that way because she is a women.
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On July 15 2011 06:05 TheAura wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:36 tofucake wrote:On July 15 2011 05:35 TheAura wrote:
i dont see how any of this is her taking advantage. She posted a personally story about being a minority in the gaming scene, with a little bit of history of her life as well.
People post life stories and opinions all the time in these blogs, big deal.
is she taking advantage of her being a girl for attention here? no, she posted a blog expressing opinions and thoughts, like so many other people do.
the fact is, Riku, is that people are assholes.
Get used to it
. More asians play video games than white people. That makes me a minority. You know what would happen if I made a blog about being white? if you posted a blog about your experiences being white, i bet most wouldn't give a flying fuck and it wouldnt get 10+ pages of hate, unless you posted something competely derogatory, which Riku has not. you are doing exactly what Riku thinks is stupid, is guys getting, as she worded it, "their panties in a knot because she is a women." while your attitude is highly negative and is only that way because she is a women.
You presume too much, sir. I have said numerous times: I hate everyone because they are assholes and idiots
What you read was facetious and an attempt at humor, though it appears I have missed the mark. Read more carefully and you will see me engaging in conversation throughout the thread, rather than merely refuting the proponents of Riku to bash on her.
Overall I consider myself rather neutral in this particular debate, though playing Devil's Advocate is something I do enjoy (I won't lie). Regardless, I find your post hurtful and inflammatory.
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On July 15 2011 03:12 Jibba wrote:Also, n.DieJokes, this is the character model. + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/c/c7/Alexstrasza_the_Life-Binder.jpg) It's accurate Cosplay. >.>
No doubt, it's a very well done costume. Still I find the "I didn't think tl would make a big deal out of it" defense a little absurd. Oh well
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On July 15 2011 06:00 Riku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:53 tofucake wrote:
Who cares? I don't post about SC at all :| People get on my case all of the time about it. *sigh* I might just refrain from posting in large, anonymous communities. While I greatly appreciate TL for having intelligent people, I find that it's size makes people quick to judge and be your enemy, but rare to approach you with friendship. People have approached me for advice, given me support, but you know, not a single person has messaged me saying, "Oh, hi, Riku, I saw you play Vindictus, too! What character do you play?" Is there some "plutonic" box on here I can check so I can just make friends? :/ Also, I think people believe I put on some sort of facade online. I'm actually more prone to complain openly about how clothing sucks and talk about how much I love games and beer. My friends just consider me "one of the guys," though, and no one gets upset over it. It's that way in my WoW guild, too. It's to this great point where gender doesn't matter, it's just a big family/friendgroup. I guess I was just hoping that could expand to the entire Internet and we could all live in one happy place of digital joy!
You're just going about it the wrong way. Assaulting the blog section of TL with 50 some blogs in less than 3 months is like being that guy (girl) who joins a new guild and constantly insists on joining/forming groups with anyone and everyone. Then to top it off they use guild chat to talk about politics.
Slow down and avoid starting arguments about things you know firsthand are controversial. You seem to be fine at making friends in real life and on WoW. Don't expect TL to work differently.
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I hope people are still reading up to this page... these are my personal musings that I hope most people will read, but I didn't think it big or important enough to make a blog...anyway.
For the past few days, I've been wondering on and off to myself whenever I browse TL, "Why do people hate on Riku so much?". From the very beginning, she's received instant callouts of attention whore, and it hasn't been letting up.
To me, I find this puzzling. How can you, based on a limited number of posts, make that judgment about somebody? People only show a limited side of themselves on the internet, even on their blogs. If I were to share my old personal xanga blog with you guys, I'm sure many of you would get the impression that I'm constantly depressed, quite emo, and very strange. But for the few on TL who have met me in person and hung out with me, you'd know that I'm quite laidback, easygoing and carefree. The truth of the matter is that I use my blog to vent, and encompasses a very small, though still real, part of me (although yes, I am quite strange, haha). But you would be quite mistaken to think that's most of who I am.
I'm guessing some of you might say, "Yes, if someone is acting retarded, then I should call them retarded -- people should be called out for their behavior." And to that I say, who are you to say who someone is? Do you really think you know someone well enough based on a bunch of posts on a SC2 blog forum? I suppose some of us simply disagree on that point. But I say in the case of Riku, unless I meet her in person, hang out with her in a group of friends, and interact with her personally in real life for a while, I don't think I can say she is or is not an attention whore, either way. So until I do, I reserve judgment, and wait until I can somehow get to know her better before thinking anything of the like.
TL;DR: I think some people are just way too quick to judge, and/or should keep their judgments to themselves.
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On July 15 2011 03:15 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:09 KwarK wrote:
How is taking your clothes off to gain the approval of men going outside of what is normally expected of women? If anything it reinforces the most negative stereotypes people have. There's a big difference between "taking your clothes off" and cosplay.
I wasn't talking about the cosplay. I was talking about the taking naked photos of herself and posting them online in topics she made devoted to people fawning over her on 4chan.
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The cry of "attention whore" from the get-go is due to the fact that her blogs are almost exclusively her interaction with TL. Most members frequent multiple boards and make friends in various groups and communicate in various, and are known through more than just posts about myself in the blogs section. I think a lot of the hate is coming from the fact that people have no interaction with Riku outside blogs and are getting angry at the way she's posting rather than anything else.
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On July 15 2011 06:00 Riku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:53 tofucake wrote:
Who cares? I don't post about SC at all :| People get on my case all of the time about it. *sigh* I might just refrain from posting in large, anonymous communities. While I greatly appreciate TL for having intelligent people, I find that it's size makes people quick to judge and be your enemy, but rare to approach you with friendship. People have approached me for advice, given me support, but you know, not a single person has messaged me saying, "Oh, hi, Riku, I saw you play Vindictus, too! What character do you play?" Is there some "plutonic" box on here I can check so I can just make friends? :/ Also, I think people believe I put on some sort of facade online. I'm actually more prone to complain openly about how clothing sucks and talk about how much I love games and beer. My friends just consider me "one of the guys," though, and no one gets upset over it. It's that way in my WoW guild, too. It's to this great point where gender doesn't matter, it's just a big family/friendgroup. I guess I was just hoping that could expand to the entire Internet and we could all live in one happy place of digital joy!
Well not many people here know you by the looks of this thread. Posting that type of OP when you are really looking for friends makes no sense at all. Hi my name is Baarn I play <insert game here> (in appropriate thread to corresponding game) and I'm looking to possibly group with people. Sorry but this OP just makes you less approachable.
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On July 15 2011 06:24 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:15 ninazerg wrote:On July 15 2011 03:09 KwarK wrote:
How is taking your clothes off to gain the approval of men going outside of what is normally expected of women? If anything it reinforces the most negative stereotypes people have. There's a big difference between "taking your clothes off" and cosplay. I wasn't talking about the cosplay. I was talking about the taking naked photos of herself and posting them online in topics she made devoted to people fawning over her on 4chan.
Jesus. Serious? Well, I'm still trying to give her the benefit of the doubt... maybe it was a high school or middle school phase. We all do stupid crap at that age, I certainly have. (God, just thinking about it makes me cringe and want to stab myself in the eye lol)
On July 15 2011 06:25 tofucake wrote:
The cry of "attention whore" from the get-go is due to the fact that her blogs are almost exclusively her interaction with TL. Most members frequent multiple boards and make friends in various groups and communicate in various, and are known through more than just posts about myself in the blogs section. I think a lot of the hate is coming from the fact that people have no interaction with Riku outside blogs and are getting angry at the way she's posting rather than anything else.
I think you've hit it on the nail, tofucake, I really think you're quite right on this.
On July 15 2011 05:50 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:46 BloodNinja wrote:On July 15 2011 05:43 JingleHell wrote:On July 15 2011 05:42 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 05:30 Dance. wrote:
I think the first blog of yours that i read was "damn clothes..." I don't know how you can consider that not brining attention to your gender. It was so random and pointless and you talked about walking around naked an how uncomfortable panties were...
I guess that was when I decided you were an attention whore who absolutely loves being know as a girl. Why would you even say that? You can EASILY check what my first blog was. Here let me describe my first few blogs briefly with you: 1) Intro, plan to blog, plan to write magazine/website, video games 2) Easter, video games, Shakespeare costumes 3) How to make a costume (no gender, no pictures) 4) My laptop dying, Shakespeare 5) Hw, video games 6) Vindictus 7) Shakespeare play ... Oh, but the Shakespeare blog did have a picture of me in my Shakespeare costume (though I was playing a male). I must being trying to get serious attention about my gender by posting those pictures! He said the first one he read, not the first one you wrote. Maybe you should go drink a glass of water and calm down, you seem to be reacting instead of thinking and responding. A lot of people just click on blogs with catchy names when they're in the little box on the left hand side. So you are saying making a snap judgement of a person's complete personality off a single post is good thing to practice? Whole personality? No, you think personalities are single-faceted? I can certainly deduce certain portions of personality from several, though, which is what I've done here. And frankly, the worst people to listen to as far as personality traits are yourself and people who like you, in that order. Very few people have the stones to be honest with their friends or people they like about their annoying quirks, and less can be honest with themselves. Either way, I'm done with this, I don't feel the need to continue trying to give good advice where it isn't wanted, and I'm certainly not going to argue with the Riku Fanclub.
I actually liked your few posts in this thread, I thought they were quite level-headed. That being said, I think a lot of the OP was venting in a way for Riku, an attempt to bring some catharsis to her. So I think that's the reason your "take it like a champ" advice is probably not being well received...
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On July 15 2011 05:02 Riku wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 04:52 Dance. wrote:
Lets just say posting a pic counts to focusing on your gender in a blog...how many is that now? 6 of my 56 blogs have a picture of myself in them. One of those was because pictures were demanded for the vacation I took. So that would be 5 out of 56 blogs + this blog, so 6 out of 56. Though I don't see how posting pictures of a vacation that I happen to be in is any more focusing on my gender than males who do the exact same thing and never receive any comment towards their gender.
Could you link the blog entries with photo content of yourself? Thanks.On July 15 2011 06:24 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:15 ninazerg wrote:On July 15 2011 03:09 KwarK wrote:
How is taking your clothes off to gain the approval of men going outside of what is normally expected of women? If anything it reinforces the most negative stereotypes people have. There's a big difference between "taking your clothes off" and cosplay. I wasn't talking about the cosplay. I was talking about the taking naked photos of herself and posting them online in topics she made devoted to people fawning over her on 4chan.
Where would one go to find that content? Thanks
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I find if funny that you keep saying your posting your blogs for youself and not looking for attention. Thats exactly what a girl posting online blogs on a male dominant website will draw. I'm sure you know what your doing, as you can't be that naive. As we can see you have your share of haters, and a small white-knight following. I quite like the femake vets here that just blend in and watch/contribute starcraft.
You seem to have no interest in starcraft, and are using this site soley for the purpose of gaining attention. I believe this is why you have such a strong following of haters. I believe if you showed some interest in the actual game, you would have been welcomed with arms wide open.
This really reminds me of the "how many girls have you slept with" thread. Lol what a good read, especially the iSCOUT4u idiot. Hilarious. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56624
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On July 15 2011 06:43 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:02 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 04:52 Dance. wrote:
Lets just say posting a pic counts to focusing on your gender in a blog...how many is that now? 6 of my 56 blogs have a picture of myself in them. One of those was because pictures were demanded for the vacation I took. So that would be 5 out of 56 blogs + this blog, so 6 out of 56. Though I don't see how posting pictures of a vacation that I happen to be in is any more focusing on my gender than males who do the exact same thing and never receive any comment towards their gender. Could you link the blog entries with photo content of yourself? Thanks. Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 06:24 KwarK wrote:On July 15 2011 03:15 ninazerg wrote:On July 15 2011 03:09 KwarK wrote:
How is taking your clothes off to gain the approval of men going outside of what is normally expected of women? If anything it reinforces the most negative stereotypes people have. There's a big difference between "taking your clothes off" and cosplay. I wasn't talking about the cosplay. I was talking about the taking naked photos of herself and posting them online in topics she made devoted to people fawning over her on 4chan. Where would one go to find that content? Thanks
All of them? I'm pretty sure someone posts one of her dressed as Alexzstraza or whatever in every one of her blogs.
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On July 15 2011 06:43 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 05:02 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 04:52 Dance. wrote:
Lets just say posting a pic counts to focusing on your gender in a blog...how many is that now? 6 of my 56 blogs have a picture of myself in them. One of those was because pictures were demanded for the vacation I took. So that would be 5 out of 56 blogs + this blog, so 6 out of 56. Though I don't see how posting pictures of a vacation that I happen to be in is any more focusing on my gender than males who do the exact same thing and never receive any comment towards their gender. Could you link the blog entries with photo content of yourself? Thanks. Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 06:24 KwarK wrote:On July 15 2011 03:15 ninazerg wrote:On July 15 2011 03:09 KwarK wrote:
How is taking your clothes off to gain the approval of men going outside of what is normally expected of women? If anything it reinforces the most negative stereotypes people have. There's a big difference between "taking your clothes off" and cosplay. I wasn't talking about the cosplay. I was talking about the taking naked photos of herself and posting them online in topics she made devoted to people fawning over her on 4chan. Where would one go to find that content? Thanks
It wasn't posted on tl. We have a fairly strict policy on pornography.
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On July 15 2011 06:24 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:15 ninazerg wrote:On July 15 2011 03:09 KwarK wrote:
How is taking your clothes off to gain the approval of men going outside of what is normally expected of women? If anything it reinforces the most negative stereotypes people have. There's a big difference between "taking your clothes off" and cosplay. I wasn't talking about the cosplay. I was talking about the taking naked photos of herself and posting them online in topics she made devoted to people fawning over her on 4chan.
Wait...wtf. I know i am taking this out of context, so I am asking for clarification? are you talking about Riku, KwarK? I really hope not.
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