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On February 22 2012 01:19 Sogo Otika wrote:Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 00:14 kuriz wrote:Actually I've thought of making a game with some girl one day, something like: "I will love to talking to you, so lets make this game where there is only one rule: you completely decide the subject of conversation and lead the word as long as we talk to each other.", wonder how someone will react to this ^^ A. You'll come across as beta and she'll have orbiters willing to fulfil her entitlement complex. B. You do it in a cocky/funny way and she'll think you're a challenge. C. She's a feminazi cunt and has a shitload of militant liberal/progressive LGTB views to share.
Don't know what A means, B is how I think and want it to be but C is what I really hope for. Finally some girl with some radical interesting thing to say!
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On February 22 2012 19:02 kuriz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 01:19 Sogo Otika wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 00:14 kuriz wrote:Actually I've thought of making a game with some girl one day, something like: "I will love to talking to you, so lets make this game where there is only one rule: you completely decide the subject of conversation and lead the word as long as we talk to each other.", wonder how someone will react to this ^^ A. You'll come across as beta and she'll have orbiters willing to fulfil her entitlement complex. B. You do it in a cocky/funny way and she'll think you're a challenge. C. She's a feminazi cunt and has a shitload of militant liberal/progressive LGTB views to share. Don't know what A means, B is how I think and want it to be but C is what I really hope for. Finally some girl with some radical interesting thing to say!
A means she'll think you're unwilling to take on the role as a man to lead the conversation and go find someone who will interest her. If you want Cs go to any youth wing of a political party. And I'm actually surprised you live in Denmark, given Roosh's analyses:
+ Show Spoiler +Danish Girls Are The Most Masculine In The World By Roosh
Danish women possess no flirting ability. They have zero charm and zero allure. Not a feminine drop of blood courses through their veins. They don’t know how to treat you well, cook for you, or make you laugh. They don’t know how to look sexy. They won’t defer to your masculinity. They can fuck you, but no more. What they do have are pussies and opinions you really don’t care about hearing. That’s it. Denmark takes top prize for having the most unfeminine and androgynous robotic women I’ve met in the world.
Since she’s unable to flirt, a Danish girl doesn’t know how to show interest, and thinks that doing so would be showing weakness. She won’t go out of her way to make you feel like a man. She’s just… there, wasting space in a bar that could be better used by the cute foreign hookers mingling right outside.
Speaking of hookers, I’m not exaggerating when I say they are more charming than Danish girls. They consistently made me smile. On lonely walks home when they approached me for my money, they said things ten times funnier than anything I heard from a Danish girl.
If you’re stuck in Copenhagen and want something that reminds you of what a woman should be, your best bet is to find a foreign girl who has been in Denmark for less than one year. Otherwise you’ll get yourself a corrupted specimen of a woman that will make you less happy than your run-of-the-mill American girl who insists on wearing flip-flops twenty-four hours a day. It’s that bad.
Even the Danish girls who have somehow escaped the corrupting influence of the androgynous culture (she’ll probably be from Jutland) will have some random masculine quality that fucks everything up. She’ll look good from across the bar, maybe even slightly sexy, but when you interact with her you’ll discover that she has a deep voice. Or she has man hands. Or she moves like a man. Or she has a slight mustache. Or she is arrogant like a man. I’ve met girls in Denmark who were more masculine than me, and I’m the hairiest, horniest motherfucker I know. I’m barely exaggerating when I say that mimicking Danish women has taught me how me to be a stronger man.
Initially a Danish girl will be somewhat reserved, but it takes no more than fifteen minutes for her true outspoken nature to shine. Since a Danish girl thinks she’s an expert on everything, be prepared to get educated on matters your feeble brain can’t possibly comprehend. You’re going to hear the wackiest, most liberal opinions you’ve ever heard in your life (e.g., “The state should supply and inject heroin addicts with pure drug in a safe environment that is also provided by the state”). Take the most liberal shit you learned in college and multiply it by fifty to get a feeling for what you’re going to hear in Denmark.
If you don’t want to bang a Danish girl, disagree with her. While this may build attraction with American girls, for Danish girls it completely shuts off the pussy faucet. They want the role of the alpha while you’re left with the role of the dopey beta. Therefore if you want sex you’re best served by simply nodding or asking her more questions so that she talks enough to make your ears bleed. You will hate yourself for doing this.
If you don’t like a girl, just question what she says, tell her she’s wrong, and enjoy the argument. In Denmark, the girl is always right and it’s the guy’s job to validate her stupid beliefs long enough to get her into bed. Again, while in America, nodding along won’t get you laid, in Denmark it will. She wants an obedient little puppy dog, not a challenge who sees her as the idiot she really is.
Danish girls don’t like masculinity, cockiness, or outspoken guys. Because of Jante Law, any attempt on your part to even indirectly show that you’re more experienced, knowledgeable, or smarter than her will terminate the interaction. Even if you’re definitely more experienced than her (she’s likely to only be a student, after all), you must pretend that you’re both equal. I don’t care if you’re ten years older than her and have lived in a dozen locations around the world after succeeding at a million-dollar business built from scratch, but you must treat the stupid opinions of a 23-year-old Danish girl with reverence and respect if you want to get laid. In other words, you have to sell yourself out for pussy.
Yes, I did this. I sold out. I nodded along to a stupid girl’s opinions to get laid. I feel ashamed for doing it, but I got my nut every time and never called any of those girls again. Maybe I did come out on top a little.
A big problem is that just about everything offends a Danish girl, especially if you make casual observations about her culture, whether positive or negative. She doesn’t believe in stereotypes or generalizations at all. She has the belief that everyone is a completely unique snowflake and any attempt to generalize is wrong and offensive. The irony of this is that Danish people are so incredibly homogenous and alike due to Denmark being a strong conformist culture that they’re the easiest people to generalize about. When girls told me not to generalize, and I noticed that they were basically carbon copies of one another, I concluded it was a case of the lady doth protest too much. If you interact with one Danish girl, you might as well have interacted with them all.
The thing that pissed me off the most about Danish women was their hypocrisy. Like I’ve mentioned previously, they will bash anything non-Danish, expecting you to sit there and take it, but the moment you make even a mild criticism about their culture, they’re ready to call the police.
For example, it was common for a Danish girl to joke that Americans like cheeseburgers and French fries. She’s indirectly saying that Americans are fat. I get it, and I don’t care, because Americans are fat and I personally love cheeseburgers and French fries. I would counter her observation with one of my own by saying, “We love hamburgers, but you guys like the kebabs. Those places are everywhere.” Pretty innocuous comment, right? Wrong. The Danish girl gets offended and counters with, “No, Danish food culture is quite varied. You’re not looking hard enough to find other places.” Really, bitch? There would be no less than four kebab shacks within a stone’s throw.
There are so many kebab shacks in Copenhagen that if an alien landed in Denmark he’d conclude that kebabs, shawarmas, and gyros have been Danish cuisine staples for thousands of years. I’d ask Danish people what their typical cuisine is and they’d give me an answer like “thick wheat bread with meat on it.” In other words, sandwiches. Yeah, real indigenous. They’d rather die than admit that a “stupid American” got them pegged.
It’s the girls’ denial of reality (in exchange for an ultra-liberal worldview) that made it least enjoyable to spend time with them. They use conversation as a way to display the superiority of their beliefs, not hesitating for a second to immediately strike down anything you say. While she has a right to do that, the real-world effect is that blood rushes out of your penis. Talking to a Danish girl has the same effect on your dick as going for a dip in a cold swimming pool.
I could bite my lip for a couple hours just to get my dick wet, but the second after I ejaculated I could no longer put up with it. This means that I didn’t get one repeat bang during my entire stay in Denmark, simply because I couldn’t tolerate the girls any longer.
I had to “reset” my tolerability clock by hitting on new pussy, which unfortunately was almost exactly the same as old pussy. I was miserable. I dealt with my predicament by offending as many girls as I could and getting them ensnared in my “you’re a hypocrite” trap. My favorite bit was to say how Danish girls were the least feminine I’ve ever met and how I couldn’t wait to leave such an androgynous country. I got more satisfaction from bitching out Danish girls than actually fucking them, because one made me feel like a man and the other a pathetic sellout.
Sadly, the dynamic of insulting girls instead of banging them was similar to what I had with American girls, though at least the latter liked masculine, outspoken guys. If you’re a sniveling beta male, Denmark could be your heaven since you have the vibe that Danish girls like, but if you respect yourself and have trouble keeping your mouth shut when people are bullshitting you, Denmark will not be pleasant.
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On February 22 2012 19:02 kuriz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 01:19 Sogo Otika wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 00:14 kuriz wrote:Actually I've thought of making a game with some girl one day, something like: "I will love to talking to you, so lets make this game where there is only one rule: you completely decide the subject of conversation and lead the word as long as we talk to each other.", wonder how someone will react to this ^^ A. You'll come across as beta and she'll have orbiters willing to fulfil her entitlement complex. B. You do it in a cocky/funny way and she'll think you're a challenge. C. She's a feminazi cunt and has a shitload of militant liberal/progressive LGTB views to share. Don't know what A means, B is how I think and want it to be but C is what I really hope for. Finally some girl with some radical interesting thing to say! You'll probably get an answer that's something along the lines of "I really don't know what we should talk about" or some shitty subject that you talk about for 2 minutes and after that you get awkward silence. If you can pull off B it probably won't matter what you talk about, so this "game" would be kind of pointless. I'm no PUA, but your idea just seems bad to me.
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On February 22 2012 14:14 Sogo Otika wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 03:35 Chill wrote:On February 22 2012 03:32 squattincassanova wrote: Ever read Lord of the Flies? When anarchy arises, people revert back to their primal levels. When's the last time you experienced anarchy? How is this relevent is any way? Hey, I'm not pushing PUA on anybody. The more guys bad with women out there, the more awesome I stand out. All cool with me. Every girl I meet online tell me how many creeper assholes they meet online and all the lame messages they get and how I am so much different. You are, however, belittling anyone who can't do it, is unable to try, or chooses to live otherwise. That shouldn't be part of this thread. Someone who says 'lol' in response to someone quoting Mystery shouldn't be in this thread. If you don't know anything about the subject you're talking about then don't come in here acting like you do. Mystery is one of the founding PUAs who brought 'game' to the mainstream. Your response is like someone saying 'lol' to a Boxer game, when that person as too ignorant to understand where modern SC has come from. It's easy to say something worked based on results without understanding the science behind it. That's why I asked for him to back up his claims. He posted a youtube video proving nothing, That's why I lol'd.
Edit: To continue your analogy, it would be like me asking you to back up the claim that "Starcraft improves high-level brain functions" and then you posting a VOD of Boxer.
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On February 22 2012 01:19 Sogo Otika wrote:She's a feminazi cunt and has a shitload of militant liberal/progressive LGTB views to share.
Little known fact: feminists (at least, the sex-positive/egalitarian ones who don't hate men) tend to be great lays. It probably has something to do with already deprogrammed ASD and open-mindedness towards kink and LGBT sex (hello threesome buddy).
It's a fun challenge, too, since (a) feminists tend to have stronger bitch shields, (b) feminists have an even worse impression of PUAs than most people, and (c) it takes a strong alpha to assert dominance over an unusually strong woman, as feminists tend to be. There's also few things more fun than ending a heated debate with a bitchy woman by pulling her in for a kiss and having her respond by pulling your hand into her panties to find that she's soaking wet.
Yes, there are (radical/gynocentric) feminists who you should absolutely stay away from, but they're overrepresented online where extremists are always overrepresented; most feminists you'll meet IRL are much more reasonable (and attractive). So the next time you meet a "feminiazi cunt" who's sharing her views, try passing that shit test by disagreeing with her and holding your own in the ensuing debate, all the while gaming her. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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A means she'll think you're unwilling to take on the role as a man to lead the conversation and go find someone who will interest her. If you want Cs go to any youth wing of a political party. And I'm actually surprised you live in Denmark, given Roosh's analyses:
Loool, yeah not long ago in the media they talked about this book "Don't visit Denmark" or what ever it was called. I read some of the headlines and he do have a point, but honestly I don't know which rock he has been living under for those two or three months he was here. I'm not sure exactly where he spend his two or three months but it couldn't be Denmark, he seems like he have no clue what so ever. Its hard for me to describe in english but really, he's an idiot eod. Of course now a lot of people wouldn't know, but really we have some of the most beautiful and fantastic girls in the world. And yes, they are hard, seems like that silly PUA clown (read two lines of his blog then I couldn't stand it anymore) didn't get what it was all about. In a way it do surprises me though if he spend his time in Copenhagen. He should have went to either Nørrebro or Vesterbro because of that big hair and beard of his he would have been quite hipster-underground-"exciting"-popular.
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You'll probably get an answer that's something along the lines of "I really don't know what we should talk about" or some shitty subject that you talk about for 2 minutes and after that you get awkward silence. If you can pull off B it probably won't matter what you talk about, so this "game" would be kind of pointless. I'm no PUA, but your idea just seems bad to me.
And then I know she's not an interesting girl and I can move on, no problem. My general observation is that this whole PUA bs is all about being so very smart and interesting at all times meanwhile reading her body language and tell her everything she wants so that you can get her to do what you want. And I simply can't stand that. Pulling of B isn't that difficult, it just often don't lead anywhere interesting. Think I'ma stop. As much as I see the good idea of this whole 'The Game' and PUA-thing about moving yourself as a person and as a individual, this whole Game thing pisses me off the more I get into it. Putting words on what we already knew, alright. But abusing it to get selfesteem and "oh I'm so wicked" from all these girls (which is how I see it) no ty.
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On February 22 2012 21:23 kuriz wrote:And then I know she's not an interesting girl and I can move on, no problem. My general observation is that this whole PUA bs is all about being so very smart and interesting at all times meanwhile reading her body language and tell her everything she wants so that you can get her to do what you want. And I simply can't stand that. Pulling of B isn't that difficult, it just often don't lead anywhere interesting. Think I'ma stop. As much as I see the good idea of this whole 'The Game' and PUA-thing about moving yourself as a person and as a individual, this whole Game thing pisses me off the more I get into it. Putting words on what we already knew, alright. But abusing it to get selfesteem and "oh I'm so wicked" from all these girls (which is how I see it) no ty.
Girls often like to be led in conversation. Ever had a girlfriend and you've tried to be nice to her and suggested that she picks where to go for dinner? Or what movie to Rent? How often have you got in that loop where she'll say, "I don't care what you do as long as we do it together." It's cute at first, but as time goes on it gets frustrating for both parties. A lot of females like it when you dictate the pace. They'll let you know if they don't like what you're planning. They like when the man takes control a lot of the time. Of course there's exceptions, but this is a general rule. It's an attractive quality to have to be able to take the lead. (Why do girls love a good dance partner? Because he can lead and take them on an adventure!) The same goes for conversations, which is why your opener for conversation might be a little weak. What kind of stuff are you interested in? The game you suggest might work when you're in a relationship or if you have already established a connection of sorts, but it'll be pretty hard to use such a thing to establish a connection initially. You're right that a girl should be interesting to you too, and that's all part of qualification. It has to be a lot more subtle then what you suggest though initially.
To the bolded: Quite often girls are used to getting told what they want to hear. That's why it's actually suggested you do things to disagree with them outright, or you challenge their opinions. Sometimes they'll challenge yours, which is what is dubbed a "shit test" to see if you really are the way you are presenting yourself. I'm not saying Pick-Up is for you by any means, but there's a lot more to it then getting into a girls pants. It's actually quite interesting to read and get to know. This coming from a guy who is a stereotypically nice guy (or gentlemen rather) and picks and chooses which elements of pick-up to apply to his life and which to omit. The applications and usage of kino alone have helped me a ton to build relationships with girls I'm interested in.
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Satire: just by using the term "(...) The game you suggest might work when you're in a relationship or if you have already established a connection of sorts (...)" it already turns me off. I know that is what it is but to me thats not how things work. In all honesty, how many girls do you think would be interested in some random gamer if he honestly told them: "right now I'm out doing my game where I want to read your bodylanguage and talk to you, not because I'm really interested, beacuse to me your primarily a piece of meat. Later tonight after thinking through my game, how to be an alpha-male, be hard to get while still putting out something that keeps you being interested, I'm going to mind f*** you and abuse social status and hieraky to get some of the good stuff. Oh yeah and like most other 'artists' I wont be leaving you more knowledged, I'll actually just be leaving you".
After reading what you wrote and also reading something from this guy Roosh V there are some things that you completely miss. Danish girls can be very masculine and alcohol is the foundation of going out and having a great time around here. When that is said, depends on where you get in touch with a female, no girls-....--.-.-.-.-..-.-can't express this in english, my vocabulary isn't good enough and it would turn out bad. Let me just say that you and Roosh V simply come from all different socities than the danish one and I guess that's where the understanding misses.
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Cultural context actually matters - who'd have thought? That being said I was able to recognise alot of the scenarios Roosh mentioned but couldn't help but feel that he just kept going about it the wrong way and towards the end I sort of just felt sorry for him.
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I always have a game plan. I always plan the logistics ahead of time. I always Yelp my god damn fucking restaurants or have been there myself and know a few top choices to recommend. I always lead. Lead Lead Lead. Leading in itself causes a lot of attraction.
Now if she happens to hate that restaurant, I will pick a second one. If she absolutely wants to got a specific one, then that's fine too but being a man, I am still going to be the first to make a recommendation.
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On February 22 2012 21:54 kuriz wrote: Satire: just by using the term "(...) The game you suggest might work when you're in a relationship or if you have already established a connection of sorts (...)" it already turns me off. I know that is what it is but to me thats not how things work. In all honesty, how many girls do you think would be interested in some random gamer if he honestly told them: "right now I'm out doing my game where I want to read your bodylanguage and talk to you, not because I'm really interested, beacuse to me your primarily a piece of meat. Later tonight after thinking through my game, how to be an alpha-male, be hard to get while still putting out something that keeps you being interested, I'm going to mind f*** you and abuse social status and hieraky to get some of the good stuff. Oh yeah and like most other 'artists' I wont be leaving you more knowledged, I'll actually just be leaving you".
After reading what you wrote and also reading something from this guy Roosh V there are some things that you completely miss. Danish girls can be very masculine and alcohol is the foundation of going out and having a great time around here. When that is said, depends on where you get in touch with a female, no girls-....--.-.-.-.-..-.-can't express this in english, my vocabulary isn't good enough and it would turn out bad. Let me just say that you and Roosh V simply come from all different socities than the danish one and I guess that's where the understanding misses.
Don't get me wrong kuriz, I don't think of things in the same context as you might think, or even in the same context as squattincassanova though I do admit that way yields great success. I also have nothing against it personally as long as people aren't getting hurt. I consider what you wrote earlier a game, because in a sense it's two people with parameters around her conversation. Not in any sort of bad or manipulative way. Just you have cute little rules about what is going to guide your conversation, so I'd consider that a game you two are playing. Perhaps a litlte misunderstanding of my choice of vocabulary on your part, and a poor explaination on mine.
How you apply the knowledge of PUA is up to you. There are people out there who simply want to have sex with the girl, and then move on to the next one. That's entirely their perogative. That's not what I do at all - I only date one girl at a time, and I have to be interested in more than just looks before I'll even be interested. That's my style, and it's no more right or wrong than anyone else's. It does work a little contrary to the attitude of abundance and leads me vulnerable to oneitis, but it's who I am. Most of the more well known PUA's support a "leave them better than you found them" attitude, but obviously that can be difficult at times.
I can agree that cultural context matters. I'm sure you know Danish society better than I do, and I'm sure even European society is vastly different from western society. With that said, I would still guess that most girls still enjoy a guy who can challenge them and take the lead, even the more masculine ones. If you think your conversation starter will work, and it's something you'd be interested in, give it a try. The worst thing that happens is it doesn't, and you'll have to find a new way to make intelligent conversation with a girl you're interested in. Live and learn right? All I can do is humbly offer my opinion.
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kuriz is a prime example of a hardcore keyboard jockey with no actual experience.
Dude, for most people getting into pickup.... its not like the guy is able to freeze time, analyze whats going on, read a book and pick the next button pushing technique LOL!!!
For most people getting into pickup, its more about trying to keep a fun organic conversation without weirding the girl out.. THATS IT! Even at my level, which is pretty advanced for most people, the conversations take on by themselves. Some times I will catch myself going into a boring conversation and I switch to something more fun. Thats about it! If I see the girl very into me, I'll move her around the club. And if shes really into me, I'll suggest she hang out with me later. Its really not that sort of button pushing thing that you call. Shes already giving you the signals. If the hot girl is not into you, she will have no problem leaving. They do it all the time. Getting compliance is not really manipulating her as much as learning to be more calibrated on picking up signals. If a girl is not comfortable. you can't push her more, it just makes her more uncomfortable.
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On February 23 2012 08:10 squattincassanova wrote: kuriz is a prime example of a hardcore keyboard jockey with no actual experience.
Dude, for most people getting into pickup.... its not like the guy is able to freeze time, analyze whats going on, read a book and pick the next button pushing technique LOL!!!
For most people getting into pickup, its more about trying to keep a fun organic conversation without weirding the girl out.. THATS IT! Even at my level, which is pretty advanced for most people, the conversations take on by themselves. Some times I will catch myself going into a boring conversation and I switch to something more fun. Thats about it! If I see the girl very into me, I'll move her around the club. And if shes really into me, I'll suggest she hang out with me later. Its really not that sort of button pushing thing that you call. Shes already giving you the signals. If the hot girl is not into you, she will have no problem leaving. They do it all the time. Getting compliance is not really manipulating her as much as learning to be more calibrated on picking up signals. If a girl is not comfortable. you can't push her more, it just makes her more uncomfortable.
Judging from kuriz's first post in this thread he's probably had more lays than you, he just doesn't feel the need to qualify himself to a bunch of nerds like you do.
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On February 22 2012 19:02 kuriz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 01:19 Sogo Otika wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 00:14 kuriz wrote:Actually I've thought of making a game with some girl one day, something like: "I will love to talking to you, so lets make this game where there is only one rule: you completely decide the subject of conversation and lead the word as long as we talk to each other.", wonder how someone will react to this ^^ A. You'll come across as beta and she'll have orbiters willing to fulfil her entitlement complex. B. You do it in a cocky/funny way and she'll think you're a challenge. C. She's a feminazi cunt and has a shitload of militant liberal/progressive LGTB views to share. Don't know what A means, B is how I think and want it to be but C is what I really hope for. Finally some girl with some radical interesting thing to say! High five.
On February 22 2012 19:59 Sogo Otika wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 19:02 kuriz wrote:On February 22 2012 01:19 Sogo Otika wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 00:14 kuriz wrote:Actually I've thought of making a game with some girl one day, something like: "I will love to talking to you, so lets make this game where there is only one rule: you completely decide the subject of conversation and lead the word as long as we talk to each other.", wonder how someone will react to this ^^ A. You'll come across as beta and she'll have orbiters willing to fulfil her entitlement complex. B. You do it in a cocky/funny way and she'll think you're a challenge. C. She's a feminazi cunt and has a shitload of militant liberal/progressive LGTB views to share. Don't know what A means, B is how I think and want it to be but C is what I really hope for. Finally some girl with some radical interesting thing to say! And I'm actually surprised you live in Denmark, given Roosh's analyses: As a Dane I'm quite proud that this asshole couldn't stand it there.
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On February 23 2012 04:16 squattincassanova wrote: I always have a game plan. I always plan the logistics ahead of time. I always Yelp my god damn fucking restaurants or have been there myself and know a few top choices to recommend. I always lead. Lead Lead Lead. Leading in itself causes a lot of attraction.
Now if she happens to hate that restaurant, I will pick a second one. If she absolutely wants to got a specific one, then that's fine too but being a man, I am still going to be the first to make a recommendation. Do you actually enjoy leading?
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On February 22 2012 18:56 squattincassanova wrote:Sighh..... apparently when a girl likes you a lot... she doesn't want to have sex anymore and wants to put you into the relationship frame. Has sex on the first date, but denies me the second time.... too bad so sad  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ELlpP.jpg)
The tone I get from your post is that you don't think its okay. So then why in the hell did you even respond to her last text. You gotta let her know that shit is not welcome by not responding.
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Satire: I might have been a bit too aggressive in my text and for that I apologize. Who am I to judge other people for their choices. I do like the whole "leave them better than you found them" principle, that actually give me some hope for the future of the PUA community. Once in a while its almost like a flood of people (I hear it at cafes, when I'm out partying or just walking down the streets) all of a sudden talking loudly about boys doing "The Game" and what they've experienced. The only problem about this is the way they talk about it because it seems that most of guys they've encountered who was playing the game have been jerks - or atleast the ones so obvious that the girls could tell. I might be a bit of a romantic and maybe that is why I both really enjoy listening to funny and entertaining stories within the PUA community, but with a happy ending in: "the girl got left better than she was found".
squattincassanova: .... what ever you say Cassanova, I'm not going to argue with you about who get to make the highest rated Hot Babes (HB if I remember correctly).
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On February 23 2012 22:09 niteReloaded wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 04:16 squattincassanova wrote: I always have a game plan. I always plan the logistics ahead of time. I always Yelp my god damn fucking restaurants or have been there myself and know a few top choices to recommend. I always lead. Lead Lead Lead. Leading in itself causes a lot of attraction.
Now if she happens to hate that restaurant, I will pick a second one. If she absolutely wants to got a specific one, then that's fine too but being a man, I am still going to be the first to make a recommendation. Do you actually enjoy leading?
Whether you like it or not, its a quality you should adopt. Its like asking another man "do you enjoy being confident?". Doesn't matter if he enjoys it or not.... if he wants to better himself, he better lead. Its probably one of the top 5 traits a man should have. Look at leaders, managers, people of high status. They ALL lead and because of that, people follow.
On February 23 2012 22:36 craz3d wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 18:56 squattincassanova wrote:Sighh..... apparently when a girl likes you a lot... she doesn't want to have sex anymore and wants to put you into the relationship frame. Has sex on the first date, but denies me the second time.... too bad so sad  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ELlpP.jpg) The tone I get from your post is that you don't think its okay. So then why in the hell did you even respond to her last text. You gotta let her know that shit is not welcome by not responding.
What kind of question is that? If she doesn't want to, I'm not going to force it. Now I am going to always be trying but if she gives me a hard "NO", then I'll stop.
Usually when a girl mentions "We're not having sex" it means shes thinking about it a lot and most likely it actually is going to happen. She came over last night and it took me 45 minutes of escalation before she finally gave in.
I asked her if she was enjoying it, she said very much yes. I asked her why she had said no, she said she had really strong will power and that men used her in the past for sex. So the reality is.... she wanted to have sex with me along. She keeps telling me I'm amazing and what a great body I have. So its not so much that I am tricking her to do what she doesn't want to do. She already wants to do it. All I am doing is turning her on pretty much and letting her know that its okay.
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On February 24 2012 02:15 squattincassanova wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 22:09 niteReloaded wrote:On February 23 2012 04:16 squattincassanova wrote: I always have a game plan. I always plan the logistics ahead of time. I always Yelp my god damn fucking restaurants or have been there myself and know a few top choices to recommend. I always lead. Lead Lead Lead. Leading in itself causes a lot of attraction.
Now if she happens to hate that restaurant, I will pick a second one. If she absolutely wants to got a specific one, then that's fine too but being a man, I am still going to be the first to make a recommendation. Do you actually enjoy leading? Whether you like it or not, its a quality you should adopt. Its like asking another man "do you enjoy being confident?". Doesn't matter if he enjoys it or not.... if he wants to better himself, he better lead. Its probably one of the top 5 traits a man should have. Look at leaders, managers, people of high status. They ALL lead and because of that, people follow. First, feeling confident feels fucking awesome. I say feeling confident, because being confident may also mean 'acting confident'='faking confidence' which is lame or a starting crutch in the best case.
Second, would you say all girls love to be led to the same degree?
My points are that if you fake something, you may actually deter the people(girls and everyone else) who would like your original personality traits.
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